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Falhófnir

macrumors 603
Aug 19, 2017
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I think the retina-gen cooling system is significantly better (including the air slots along the bottom-sides of the machine which were missing in the unibody design) - that helps a huge amount with longevity.
 

leman

macrumors Core
Oct 14, 2008
19,530
19,709
those prices seem fair for what you get. Pre-Retina Macbook Pros have something a newer Macbook Pro will never have, upgradability and repairability.

What you get is a 5 year old computer that can die on you any time. If your chipset components/power circuitry/IO fails (which is rather likely with such an old computer), your repair chances are exactly the same as with new machines — less actually, since replacement parts might be less easy to come by for an obsoleted machine (which will happen next year to the 2012 models). And what is the point of boasting about upgradeability if you are stuck with old RAM controllers and SATA? Upgradeability is moot if there is no upgrade path.

The Mac LC line was budget friendly, heck LC stood for "Low Cost".

Are you really going to take an example from the period where Apple was all over the place and had to bring Jobs back to save it? Not to mention that he saved it by refocusing it (which also eliminated the budget products).

Mac Minis are budget, even the low end iMac is budget once you factor in the built in screen.

They are certainly not budget. You can get a mini-PC for significantly less. MacMini and the iMac never used budget components. They are office computers, so they are not specced to expensively, but they are certainly using premium components in their segments. Budget computers of that type use Intel Atom/Celeron etc. kind of CPUs for example.
 

mbliss

macrumors newbie
Oct 5, 2018
1
0
My 15” 2011 MBP gpu failed a little over two years ago. Had it reballed and it’s been working fine since.
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My 15” 2011 MBP gpu failed a little over two years ago. Had it reballed and it’s been working fine since.
I prefer Mac for the OS as opposed to the hardware, so I am hanging onto it until it dies. But I have upgraded the memory to 8G and put in a 1T SSD. Plus I use the SD slot and old fashioned USB on a regular basis. DVD, last used about a year ago :)
Just wondering what you meant by "reballed" - I've tried to get my mid-2010 repaired and no one believes it's fixable. Thanks.
 

Gravydog316

macrumors 6502a
May 17, 2016
564
200
Canada
...I have only heard of the 2010 & 2011 MBPs having GPU issues,
now the new ones have keyboard issues, so do your research...

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My 15” 2011 MBP gpu failed a little over two years ago. Had it reballed and it’s been working fine since.
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Just wondering what you meant by "reballed" - I've tried to get my mid-2010 repaired and no one believes it's fixable. Thanks.
They are fixable (I have a 2010 that I won, but the GPU is faulty like they are...
the GPU needs to be soldered, but you're better off replacing the whole machine.
...just don't get a new one with a garbage keyboard haha
 

Samuelsan2001

macrumors 604
Oct 24, 2013
7,729
2,153
The m370x on the 2015 is the only one that has had no product wide problems. Of course any dGPU in any laptop is a gamble they are the most likely failure other than a spinning HDD.
 

ajcgn

macrumors regular
Oct 19, 2014
197
178
Toronto, Ontario
My 15” 2011 MBP gpu failed a little over two years ago. Had it reballed and it’s been working fine since.
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Just wondering what you meant by "reballed" - I've tried to get my mid-2010 repaired and no one believes it's fixable. Thanks.
Gravy answered.
Update: My reballing failed a few weeks ago, lasted over three and a half years though. The repair shop (in Toronto) did a dgpu bypass and my MBP is working fine again. I can’t control the screen brightness anymore and one of the programs I’m running overloads the base gpu, but compared to the cost of a new MBP, it was well worth the fix.
 
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