Looking t get a "prime lens" at a later date for my Nikon D7100. Currently have the two kit lenses (18 - 55 and 55 - 200). I am thinking maybe a fast 50mm? What do you use, or consider to be the better prime lens size and speed, and why?
What do you want to shoot? We need to know before general advice can be offered.Looking t get a "prime lens" at a later date for my Nikon D7100. Currently have the two kit lenses (18 - 55 and 55 - 200). I am thinking maybe a fast 50mm? What do you use, or consider to be the better prime lens size and speed, and why?
Will expand a bit on the responses thus far (though don't disagree with many of them). Will also provide some example shots...
Looking t get a "prime lens" at a later date for my Nikon D7100.....
Will expand a bit on the responses thus far (though don't disagree with many of them). Will also provide some example shots.
(1) Why do you want to get a prime? What are you hoping to achieve with a prime that you can't get with your kit lenses?
(2) What focal length do you find yourself shooting most? Since there are primes at the wide end, the normal end, and the telephoto end, if you are only going to get one it should be at a focal length that you regularly find "adequate."
The usual answer to question (1) is that you want a fast lens to be able to "blur the background" or stated another way to isolate the subject.
I used to own a copy of the 18-55 kit lens, but can't seem to find it after a recent move. Bleh, because another reason people buy a prime is to get a sharper lens. So can't offer that comparison.
Remember that your D7100 is a crop sensor, so as stated in posts above the "traditional" focal lengths for fast primes that everyone talks about won't really apply to you. Normally people suggest the "nifty-fifty" as the generic first prime people should buy. On a crop sensor, a 50mm lens gives a field of view (FoV) of a 75mm lens on a full frame sensor. Not nearly as useful as a generic focal length for most people. On a crop sensor, a 35mm lens gives a FoV that is close to 50mm on a full frame sensor and is thus the generic first prime for people with a camera like yours.
Assuming you are interested in "blurring the background" with your fast prime, keep in mind that the depth of field (DoF) is related to the 35mm full frame equivalent of a lens. So even though a 35mm lens on a crop body gives the FoV of a 50mm lens on a full frame body, the DoF is actually the same as a 35mm lens on a full frame body.
Examples below. All taken with a Nikon D810 on a tripod with the sensor set at either full frame or crop as stated with each pic. White balance normalized for all pics. ISO set at 64 for all pics with shutter speed set by the camera in aperture priority mode. Focus was on the paper towel roll in the foreground.
Kitchen taken with a 20mm lens on a full frame body. This is for reference for the subsequent pics.
35mm lens @ f/1.4 on a full frame sensor
35mm lens @ f/1.4 on a crop sensor
50mm lens @ f/1.4 on a full frame sensor
50mm lens @ f/1.4 on a crop sensor
Notice two things with this series. First, the focal length gives a different FoV depending on whether it is shot on a full frame sensor or a crop sensor. The "nifty-fifty" is a bit close for a general purpose lens on a crop sensor. While one poster above raved about it on a D600, on your crop sensor D7100 it may not be what you are looking for. Also notice the (subtle) differences between the DoF of a 35mm lens on a crop sensor and a 50mm lens on a full frame sensor. While the FoV is close, the DoF isn't the same. Again subtle and this "test" may not fully highlight the differences. DoF varies by focal length (as shown here with longer focal lengths having smaller DoF), subject distance (the closer the subject, the smaller the DoF), and distance from the subject to background elements (the greater the difference, the more "blurred" the background will be).
Hope this is helpful for you. My advice before buying any lens is asking yourself what you are hoping to achieve with it, or stated another way how are your current lenses limiting what you can achieve and how will the proposed new lens "fix" this problem. If you can't state your proposed purchase in these terms, you should ask yourself if you really need the lens in question. On the other hand, it's sometimes fun to buy new bling
Will expand a bit on the responses thus far (though don't disagree with many of them). Will also provide some example shots.
(1) Why do you want to get a prime? What are you hoping to achieve with a prime that you can't get with your kit lenses?
(2) What focal length do you find yourself shooting most? Since there are primes at the wide end, the normal end, and the telephoto end, if you are only going to get one it should be at a focal length that you regularly find "adequate."
The usual answer to question (1) is that you want a fast lens to be able to "blur the background" or stated another way to isolate the subject.
I used to own a copy of the 18-55 kit lens, but can't seem to find it after a recent move. Bleh, because another reason people buy a prime is to get a sharper lens. So can't offer that comparison.
Remember that your D7100 is a crop sensor, so as stated in posts above the "traditional" focal lengths for fast primes that everyone talks about won't really apply to you. Normally people suggest the "nifty-fifty" as the generic first prime people should buy. On a crop sensor, a 50mm lens gives a field of view (FoV) of a 75mm lens on a full frame sensor. Not nearly as useful as a generic focal length for most people. On a crop sensor, a 35mm lens gives a FoV that is close to 50mm on a full frame sensor and is thus the generic first prime for people with a camera like yours.
Assuming you are interested in "blurring the background" with your fast prime, keep in mind that the depth of field (DoF) is related to the 35mm full frame equivalent of a lens. So even though a 35mm lens on a crop body gives the FoV of a 50mm lens on a full frame body, the DoF is actually the same as a 35mm lens on a full frame body.
Examples below. All taken with a Nikon D810 on a tripod with the sensor set at either full frame or crop as stated with each pic. White balance normalized for all pics. ISO set at 64 for all pics with shutter speed set by the camera in aperture priority mode. Focus was on the paper towel roll in the foreground.
Kitchen taken with a 20mm lens on a full frame body. This is for reference for the subsequent pics.
35mm lens @ f/1.4 on a full frame sensor
35mm lens @ f/1.4 on a crop sensor
50mm lens @ f/1.4 on a full frame sensor
50mm lens @ f/1.4 on a crop sensor
Notice two things with this series. First, the focal length gives a different FoV depending on whether it is shot on a full frame sensor or a crop sensor. The "nifty-fifty" is a bit close for a general purpose lens on a crop sensor. While one poster above raved about it on a D600, on your crop sensor D7100 it may not be what you are looking for. Also notice the (subtle) differences between the DoF of a 35mm lens on a crop sensor and a 50mm lens on a full frame sensor. While the FoV is close, the DoF isn't the same. Again subtle and this "test" may not fully highlight the differences. DoF varies by focal length (as shown here with longer focal lengths having smaller DoF), subject distance (the closer the subject, the smaller the DoF), and distance from the subject to background elements (the greater the difference, the more "blurred" the background will be).
Hope this is helpful for you. My advice before buying any lens is asking yourself what you are hoping to achieve with it, or stated another way how are your current lenses limiting what you can achieve and how will the proposed new lens "fix" this problem. If you can't state your proposed purchase in these terms, you should ask yourself if you really need the lens in question. On the other hand, it's sometimes fun to buy new bling
Will expand a bit on the responses thus far (though don't disagree with many of them). Will also provide some example shots.
(1) Why do you want to get a prime? What are you hoping to achieve with a prime that you can't get with your kit lenses?
(2) What focal length do you find yourself shooting most? Since there are primes at the wide end, the normal end, and the telephoto end, if you are only going to get one it should be at a focal length that you regularly find "adequate."
The usual answer to question (1) is that you want a fast lens to be able to "blur the background" or stated another way to isolate the subject.
I used to own a copy of the 18-55 kit lens, but can't seem to find it after a recent move. Bleh, because another reason people buy a prime is to get a sharper lens. So can't offer that comparison.
Remember that your D7100 is a crop sensor, so as stated in posts above the "traditional" focal lengths for fast primes that everyone talks about won't really apply to you. Normally people suggest the "nifty-fifty" as the generic first prime people should buy. On a crop sensor, a 50mm lens gives a field of view (FoV) of a 75mm lens on a full frame sensor. Not nearly as useful as a generic focal length for most people. On a crop sensor, a 35mm lens gives a FoV that is close to 50mm on a full frame sensor and is thus the generic first prime for people with a camera like yours.
Assuming you are interested in "blurring the background" with your fast prime, keep in mind that the depth of field (DoF) is related to the 35mm full frame equivalent of a lens. So even though a 35mm lens on a crop body gives the FoV of a 50mm lens on a full frame body, the DoF is actually the same as a 35mm lens on a full frame body.
Examples below. All taken with a Nikon D810 on a tripod with the sensor set at either full frame or crop as stated with each pic. White balance normalized for all pics. ISO set at 64 for all pics with shutter speed set by the camera in aperture priority mode. Focus was on the paper towel roll in the foreground.
Kitchen taken with a 20mm lens on a full frame body. This is for reference for the subsequent pics.
35mm lens @ f/1.4 on a full frame sensor
35mm lens @ f/1.4 on a crop sensor
50mm lens @ f/1.4 on a full frame sensor
50mm lens @ f/1.4 on a crop sensor
Notice two things with this series. First, the focal length gives a different FoV depending on whether it is shot on a full frame sensor or a crop sensor. The "nifty-fifty" is a bit close for a general purpose lens on a crop sensor. While one poster above raved about it on a D600, on your crop sensor D7100 it may not be what you are looking for. Also notice the (subtle) differences between the DoF of a 35mm lens on a crop sensor and a 50mm lens on a full frame sensor. While the FoV is close, the DoF isn't the same. Again subtle and this "test" may not fully highlight the differences. DoF varies by focal length (as shown here with longer focal lengths having smaller DoF), subject distance (the closer the subject, the smaller the DoF), and distance from the subject to background elements (the greater the difference, the more "blurred" the background will be).
Hope this is helpful for you. My advice before buying any lens is asking yourself what you are hoping to achieve with it, or stated another way how are your current lenses limiting what you can achieve and how will the proposed new lens "fix" this problem. If you can't state your proposed purchase in these terms, you should ask yourself if you really need the lens in question. On the other hand, it's sometimes fun to buy new bling
WHAT I RAVED ABOUT IS THE ART SERIES LENS. HE COULD OF GOOGLED OR LOOKED AT SOME PICTURES SHOT WITH THE ART LENS FROM SIGMA AND DECIDED BETWEEN A 35MM OR A 50MM ON HIS CROP SENSOR.
IM AT WORK AND THIS IS HOW I HAVE TO KEEP THE KEYBOARD BUT THANKS FOR ASSUMING IM SHOUTING.Is your caps lock broke? or are you shouting
IM AT WORK AND THIS IS HOW I HAVE TO KEEP THE KEYBOARD BUT THANKS FOR ASSUMING IM SHOUTING.
Can you expand on nature? Do you mean wildlife, macro or something else?Kallisti's post is probably one of the best responses I have seen to this type of question. Thanks for taking the time to go through this explanation. I was asked what am I trying to do? My primary interest lies in nature and landscape and I am beginning to realize that this really covers a lot of area. My very first, good quality SLR was a Canon FTQL with only a 85mm lens. I shot this lens on everything from people to formula races at Nurburgring and was always happy, once I learned to use it. I don't want to get weighed down with a bunch of lenses due to both bulk and cost so am seeking to see it somewhat simple. The 18 - 55mm kit lens haas been rated very good, not so much for the 55 - 200mm. Thanks for the input as this gives a lot of points to consider.
IM AT WORK AND THIS IS HOW I HAVE TO KEEP THE KEYBOARD BUT THANKS FOR ASSUMING IM SHOUTING.
HAHAHAH I MEAN WHEN IM AT WORK EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN CAPS IN THE PROGRAM THEY USE HERE. UGH SO OLD SCHOOL SO I FORGET IM IN CAPS AND IT'S EASIER TO JUST ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS I GUESS. SORRY IF IT CAUSES ISSUES.
HAHAHAH I MEAN WHEN IM AT WORK EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN CAPS IN THE PROGRAM THEY USE HERE. UGH SO OLD SCHOOL SO I FORGET IM IN CAPS AND IT'S EASIER TO JUST ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS I GUESS. SORRY IF IT CAUSES ISSUES.