Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

cliverlong

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 2, 2022
18
2
United Kingdom
I am trying to upgrade an “early 2009” MacPro 5,1 (flashed from 4,1) by

  • Install Monterey
  • Add a more powerful graphics card (Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX580)
Now there are two issues that may be related or unrelated. I will post this as two separate questions.

The machine currently has 24GB of Ram, one CPU and successfully boots Catalina from an NVMe on a PCIe card. The Catalina was installed using DOSDude1 patcher. This setup works fine but some software I want to use does not run on Catalina.

The machine drives a RED ATI card with the only markings ATI-102-B36101-10(B) and another sticker saying “Apple”. A search indicates the card is: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB



Issue 1. Problems installing Monterey

I have used OCLP 0.6.5 to build both a 16GB USB thumb drive and external SSD in a USB caddy. With the ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB installed, I can:

Holding ALT/OPTION at power on, Display and select the EFI Boot option, run the OCLP Monterey install from the USB thumb drive onto a separate, SSD installed on one of the SATA sockets. This seems to complete successfully.

When the OCLP Monterey install process reboots the machine and selects “macOS installer” the screen goes black, then shows a white Apple log and a progress bar. The progress bar goes to about 1/3 or 40% of its length, then the machine reboots. I have rea this cycle can happen several times. However, I have left the machine for several hours and it is stuck in the cycle: progress bar to 40%, reboot, repeat, and makes no further progress. I did read one posting that suggested the installation of Monterey was not completing because a Metal graphics card was not in the machine. Which is why I think the problem maybe related to the other problem of not getting Catalina to boot with a Metal card installed.

Any suggestions on how to complete the Monterey installation?

Thanks,

* UPDATE * The cMp 5,1 is now booting successfully in Catalina with the RX580 installed. I am trying to re-run the Monterey installation on to a fresh SSD - but progress gets to 40% , hangs, then reboots, continually. I am going to recreate the installation disk using OCLP 0.6.5 now the RX580 is working - and restart the whole OCLP Monterey installation - and see what happens.
 
Last edited:

cliverlong

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 2, 2022
18
2
United Kingdom
First of all, enable verbose installation with the oclp app.

A progress bar tells exactly nothing of any use.
Hello

Thanks for the information. (Following terminology may be not quite right). I restarted the OCLP 0.6.5 build, switched on the verbose installation, rebuilt OCLP installer on a USB disk then rebooted using the new disk, selecting "install OS". Now the boot of the OCLP installer is progressing and there seems to be progress (on the progress bar) when the machine reboots. Each reboot selects the "EFI Boot" from the external USB drive.

Hey! As I'm typing I see the Monterey start up screen. Progress ! Many thanks !!

As far as using the OCLP Discord server - I'm sure that's the best place for support (if I work out how to use it). However, I'm very reluctant to enter my phone number as part of the registration process. How do I know that data will be held securely?
 

Macschrauber

macrumors 68030
Dec 27, 2015
2,986
1,494
Germany
So maybe your system disk is somehow not working for the installation or you get random results.

Verbose boot is: You will get text display instead of a progress bar in the early boot / installation process.
Much more informative when it comes to errors or stalls. I always boot verbose when using unsupported systems.
 

khmerbpt

macrumors newbie
May 23, 2023
7
0
I am installing monterey using oclp on my new old macpro 5,1 that i bought from fb marketplace. I'm stuck on "Remote Management". I can't go forward. Im stuck. Any help would be much appreciate it.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_3306.jpeg
    IMG_3306.jpeg
    80.9 KB · Views: 74

sfalatko

macrumors 6502a
Sep 24, 2016
643
366
I am installing monterey using oclp on my new old macpro 5,1 that i bought from fb marketplace. I'm stuck on "Remote Management". I can't go forward. Im stuck. Any help would be much appreciate it.
There is a configuration profile in system preferences that needs to be deleted. You should be able to do that with admin privaleges
 

flat4

Contributor
Jul 14, 2009
293
85
I am installing monterey using oclp on my new old macpro 5,1 that i bought from fb marketplace. I'm stuck on "Remote Management". I can't go forward. Im stuck. Any help would be much appreciate it.
Well, you might have bought a mac that belong to Netflix and they manage it. A. they forgot removed it from their management platform or B. it was stolen and resold and you're stuck as it will not do anything until they get it removed.

You could start over but not let it connect to the internet and they try what @sfalatko stated
 

khmerbpt

macrumors newbie
May 23, 2023
7
0
okey, here what I did..... I took out the original hard drive ( Nov 2006) and installed a blanked 255 gb ssd and loaded with high sierra then I insalled montrey via OCLP and followed the processes. It workes fine now. No n Netflix BS. Thank you for your help. I hope this helps someone with same situation like me. O, I have re install EFI file and other motions. If anyone needs help, shoot me a message, I will try my best to help.
 

khmerbpt

macrumors newbie
May 23, 2023
7
0
It's a Vinatage experience! It took me 2 days to figure this out out, My wife thought I was cheating. Almost costs me a marrage. JK
 

khmerbpt

macrumors newbie
May 23, 2023
7
0
So far, I love this machine. It's a beast and super heavy. Solid build, hat's off to Apple. I love it. 13 years old and still works better than the new mac. And it's easily upgradable.........
 

cliverlong

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 2, 2022
18
2
United Kingdom
First of all, enable verbose installation with the oclp app.

A progress bar tells exactly nothing of any use.
Hi,

I successfully installed Monterey after I set the log tracing on. I didn't have to do any diagnostic. So far Monterey seem stable on cMp5,1. I have the RX580 installed but so far it does not support dual monitor - only the screen selected at boot is accessible. Trying to mirror monitors and the second monitor is not visible. I have read that is a Monterey issue. I have also read that dual monitor setup can work if one of the monitors is connected HDMI to HDMI. I have sufficient cables and monitors to try all independently to make sure they work in one monitor setup - then try to find a dual monitor setup that works. I will post my findings in a separate post.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.