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iPhone Pros and Cons of Jaibreaking

Applejuiced said:
Take your tinfoil hat off right now:D
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We have already seen where the Chinese have hacked and screwed with us in many different cases on many different levels. You don't think the NSA is the only organization out there dying onus, do you? Think what ever you want. I'll be keeping my tin foil hat on thank you very much.
 
pooleman said:
We have already seen where the Chinese have hacked and screwed with us in many different cases on many different levels. You don't think the NSA is the only organization out there dying onus, do you? Think what ever you want. I'll be keeping my tin foil hat on thank you very much.
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Of Course they do, there's tons of cyber warfare going on online between countries and secret agencies.
But to single out a specific user for JB their iphone? I doubt it, unless one is involved in other types of activities.
And if they were really spying you would not be able to tell its being done to you at all. No slowdowns or other types of hiccups like that would be there to notify you. But again, believe what you want.
Even the microwave oven part:D lol
 
Deranox said:
Guys why are there then mentions that a jailbroken device is completely unprotected ? One of the core cons of jailbreaking is removing any iOS security a.k.a removing the wall that Apple has put up to protect the device.
A tweak installed from Cydia for instance can get all of the information on your device because it's jailbroken and nothing can stop it because you removed the security walls Apple installed.
Not saying it's a big deal but you must be careful with what you download.Only download from trusted sites and only trusted and well researched tweaks.This is the only reason I haven't jailbroken yet .. I can't trust where my information goes and every single app has information to anything it wants once you jailbreak.If you value your security - don't jailbreak OR just be really careful with the tweaks.
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Uhm…so you download your tweaks from some place other than Cydia?

Oh right, you aren't jailbroken yet. Get back to us on all this stuff you mentioned once you've jailbroken. Or maybe you might want to stop using an iPhone all together. You know both Apple and the apps in the app store have your personal info too.

Scary stuff man!
 
eyoungren said:
Uhm…so you download your tweaks from some place other than Cydia?

Oh right, you aren't jailbroken yet. Get back to us on all this stuff you mentioned once you've jailbroken. Or maybe you might want to stop using an iPhone all together. You know both Apple and the apps in the app store have your personal info too.

Scary stuff man!
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Why be so rude ? I'm just saying that jailbreaking isn't entirely secure because you don't know who really created the tweak thats in Cydia.I'm not suggesting downloading from another site .. that's totally un secure BUT Cydia isn't bullet proof 100% too.
 
Deranox said:
Why be so rude ? I'm just saying that jailbreaking isn't entirely secure because you don't know who really created the tweak thats in Cydia.I'm not suggesting downloading from another site .. that's totally un secure BUT Cydia isn't bullet proof 100% too.
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I'm not being rude, but I question where you're coming from if you aren't jailbroken. It sounds a bit like giving medical advice to a doctor when all that you know comes from Wikipedia or WebMD. You won't jailbreak because you feel that it's insecure but you're offering advice on how careful jailbreakers need to be.

Sure, you have to be careful, but it's not like you make it sound. On top of that, there are plenty of tweaks that can catch outgoing communications. In that way you know what app is contacting what. You can approve or deny, or even delete the tweak.

A jailbroken iPhone is no more insecure than a stock iPhone. It's what you do afterwards that determines your vulnerabilities. That invalidates your argument that jailbreaking makes you more insecure.

I agree, Cydia isn't bulletproof. But neither is the App store and there have been issues there before. I can see your reasoning for pointing out security as a con for jailbreaking so ok, that's why you posted here. But, really, it's not an issue. It's the user that makes themselves vulnerable, not the jailbreak.
 
There is one major CON that nobody has mentioned yet:

If you jailbreak your phone, you will grow very accustomed to certain tweaks and modifications that you will have a very hard time going without (e.g., for me, I would hate it if I didn't have f.lux, SwipeSelection, Push for Gmail, and many others).

Eventually, Apple will patch some exploit, and it will not be possible to restore to a jail-breakable firmware version. When this happens, you will either have to avoid restoring in order to maintain your jailbreak, or even worse, will be forced to restore and will lose your jailbreak. Once that happens, you will have to wait and hope for a new jailbreak to be released soon.

A jailbroken iOS is always preferable to stock iOS, but I don't imagine Apple losing their attitude of "we know what you want even more than you do" any time soon, so jailbreaking will always have this frustration.
 
eyoungren said:
I'm not being rude, but I question where you're coming from if you aren't jailbroken. It sounds a bit like giving medical advice to a doctor when all that you know comes from Wikipedia or WebMD. You won't jailbreak because you feel that it's insecure but you're offering advice on how careful jailbreakers need to be.

Sure, you have to be careful, but it's not like you make it sound. On top of that, there are plenty of tweaks that can catch outgoing communications. In that way you know what app is contacting what. You can approve or deny, or even delete the tweak.

A jailbroken iPhone is no more insecure than a stock iPhone. It's what you do afterwards that determines your vulnerabilities. That invalidates your argument that jailbreaking makes you more insecure.

I agree, Cydia isn't bulletproof. But neither is the App store and there have been issues there before. I can see your reasoning for pointing out security as a con for jailbreaking so ok, that's why you posted here. But, really, it's not an issue. It's the user that makes themselves vulnerable, not the jailbreak.
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Just to point out .. I was jailbroken before .. I'm not now :) I wouldn't give that advice if I haven't tried it myself and I have to say that I did not have any problems with a JB phone BUT I felt insecure so .. it's just the way I personally feel about it and I'm just giving advice .. it's up to him/her to follow it or not :)
What tweaks can check for outgoing communications and other info ? Haven't really looked into that ... I didn't even know such tweaks existed :D
 
Deranox said:
Just to point out .. I was jailbroken before .. I'm not now :) I wouldn't give that advice if I haven't tried it myself and I have to say that I did not have any problems with a JB phone BUT I felt insecure so .. it's just the way I personally feel about it and I'm just giving advice .. it's up to him/her to follow it or not :)
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OK. From that standpoint then I get it. We all have our own personal feelings/experiences with jailbreaking. I don't feel the same way as you do because I know that it's only my own actions that determine if I am secure or not, but we're all different.
Deranox said:
What tweaks can check for outgoing communications and other info ? Haven't really looked into that ... I didn't even know such tweaks existed :D
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The tweak I use is called Firewall IP. It's for iOS 6, but Firewall IP7 is for iOS 7. If you've ever used Little Snitch on the Mac it functions in exactly the same manner. It intercepts ALL traffic and gives you the option to allow or deny, once, session, or forever. If you want to change it you can also open the app and go back and make changes. So, any intial setting you make is changeable.

It's a very good tweak I think and I recommend it.
 

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alkalifly said:
There is one major CON that nobody has mentioned yet:

If you jailbreak your phone, you will grow very accustomed to certain tweaks and modifications that you will have a very hard time going without (e.g., for me, I would hate it if I didn't have f.lux, SwipeSelection, Push for Gmail, and many others).

Eventually, Apple will patch some exploit, and it will not be possible to restore to a jail-breakable firmware version. When this happens, you will either have to avoid restoring in order to maintain your jailbreak, or even worse, will be forced to restore and will lose your jailbreak. Once that happens, you will have to wait and hope for a new jailbreak to be released soon.

A jailbroken iOS is always preferable to stock iOS, but I don't imagine Apple losing their attitude of "we know what you want even more than you do" any time soon, so jailbreaking will always have this frustration.
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You're right! And this is one of the major reasons I stayed on 6.1 and did not update to iOS 7. What iOS 7 had to offer (in all respects) was not enough for me to overcome this and upgrade.

I'm quite comfortable where I'm at. I've customized everything, everything works and I'm unwilling to go through the whole process of upgrading, jailbreaking, etc just to get back to where I am right now. Not to mention having to research and track down any new tweaks to fix or replace old tweaks that because of the upgrade no longer work.
 
eyoungren said:
You're right! And this is one of the major reasons I stayed on 6.1 and did not update to iOS 7. What iOS 7 had to offer (in all respects) was not enough for me to overcome this and upgrade.

I'm quite comfortable where I'm at. I've customized everything, everything works and I'm unwilling to go through the whole process of upgrading, jailbreaking, etc just to get back to where I am right now. Not to mention having to research and track down any new tweaks to fix or replace old tweaks that because of the upgrade no longer work.
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7.1.1 jailbreak has been solid, and more importantly, 7.1.1 over 7.1 betas and 7.0.x

Wouldn't hesitate in recommending it, but I still understand. 6.1 is so glorious in its own right.

as nerdy as thing sounds, I kinda wish I had two iPhone 5's, one for 6.1 the other for 7.1 :D
 
thadoggfather said:
7.1.1 jailbreak has been solid, and more importantly, 7.1.1 over 7.1 betas and 7.0.x

Wouldn't hesitate in recommending it, but I still understand. 6.1 is so glorious in its own right.

as nerdy as thing sounds, I kinda wish I had two iPhone 5's, one for 6.1 the other for 7.1 :D
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LOL! I'm starting to get the impression that more and more people are looking back at being on iOS 6 as valuable – even more so with a jailbreak.

It's making me feel like I do with my PowerMacs, LOL!

I'll throw another one in there too. My wife is jailbroken on iOS 6.0.4. She's got a white, iPhone 5, 64GB (mine's the same, except black). We were lucky that since Sprint is not in high regard and that the 64GB models sell less quickly, her iPhone came on iOS 6.0.4. I jailbroke it right away.
 
eyoungren said:
LOL! I'm starting to get the impression that more and more people are looking back at being on iOS 6 as valuable – even more so with a jailbreak.

It's making me feel like I do with my PowerMacs, LOL!

I'll throw another one in there too. My wife is jailbroken on iOS 6.0.4. She's got a white, iPhone 5, 64GB (mine's the same, except black). We were lucky that since Sprint is not in high regard and that the 64GB models sell less quickly, her iPhone came on iOS 6.0.4. I jailbroke it right away.
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I just replaced my Verizon iPhone 5 white 64gb at the Apple Store (water damage) and it came on 6.0.4. I sold it on eBay.
 
troy14 said:
I just replaced my Verizon iPhone 5 white 64gb at the Apple Store (water damage) and it came on 6.0.4. I sold it on eBay.
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That's cool! We got my wife's iPhone 5 a year ago in August. At the time the 5s/5c was imminent and Apple was really pushing upgrading to iOS 7.

But, considering that your replacement was almost a year later that's even more impressive.

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thadoggfather said:
How'd ya do if you don't mind me asking ?

Just curious!
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The 64GB models are the slowest sellers. They sit for a while. Then Apple discontinued the 5 for the 5c and the 5s became the model to get. Apple isn't selling the 5 any more but they have to have some in stock for replacement purposes.

It probably was just sitting there.

My guess anyway.
 
troy14 said:
AppleCare+, dropped it in some water (on accident, of course...).

When the genius plugged it in, it was completely completely dead and took forever to boot up. The genius himself seemed surprised it was on iOS 6. It was the partridge creek apple in Clinton twp, MI
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I meant the sale since you said you put it on eBay as if an iOS 6 iPhone 5 fetches for more..
 
Surprised no-one has mentioned the biggest disadvantage so far, and the one that stop me jailbreaking - certain App Store apps won't work on a jailbroken phone, they sense it's jailbroken and just won't work - biggest example for me is Sky Go.
 
Barclays on-line banking (use every day) was blocked....
Had to undo JB straight away.

Peter
 
MoodyM said:
Surprised no-one has mentioned the biggest disadvantage so far, and the one that stop me jailbreaking - certain App Store apps won't work on a jailbroken phone, they sense it's jailbroken and just won't work - biggest example for me is Sky Go.
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shadforth said:
Barclays on-line banking (use every day) was blocked....
Had to undo JB straight away.

Peter
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You guys ever hear of xCon, or is that tweak not working for you?
 
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