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No actually the stats would have you believing that.

And Im sure the families of the 40-50,000+ people killed yearly in the US alone by another person (not suicide or car accidents but murder, manslaughter etc) would disagree with you that it's a figment of the government's imagination.

So you're saying the Americas (oh btw, 40-50k for the US? Doesn't check out with my research) are inherently more evil than the rest of the world? Like, inherently, as in genetically, and not because there are drug wars and guns seemingly available to everyone and their mom?
 
So they store the emails in encrypted form, but they also store the private keys in the same server???
 
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[doublepost=1458228236][/doublepost]Haha, take that FBI.

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So they store the emails in encrypted form, but they also store the private keys in the same server???

No, PM does not have access to your private key and it's a dual authentication mechanism: 1 password to login in the "eco-system" and one password to decrypt/encrypt messages.

I have been using PM for over one year and really like it. Wayyyy better looking and feature-full than competition such as Hushmail. PM also has several tiered paid services :cool:
 
I don't know but, this whole FBI vs Apple writs act war deal going public seems very fishy to me.
FBI doesn't really make it a habit what they can or cannot do in public concerning spy or decoding tech.

Clearly this whole ordeal has caused great concern (fear) worldwide. Now govt and politicians always use fear to pass an agenda... the whole story could be a trojan horse.. where the public's remedies to the invasion of privacy by govt could actually be the trojan horse...
 
So you're saying the Americas (oh btw, 40-50k for the US? Doesn't check out with my research) are inherently more evil than the rest of the world? Like, inherently, as in genetically, and not because there are drug wars and guns seemingly available to everyone and their mom?

No, it is because we allow anyone to have a weapon - especially people that lack the maturity to understand what it can do.

Most of them buy guns to make up for their general lack of manliness. And they fantasize about the opportunity to kill minorities. (I have several of these morans in my family. By BiL, according to himself, is a "responsible" gun owner. He keeps his AR-15 in his vacation house, that he visits once a month loaded, by the bed, with no trigger guard.) In America, the definition of a "responsible gun owner" is that they are white.
 
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I don't know but, this whole FBI vs Apple writs act war deal going public seems very fishy to me.
FBI doesn't really make it a habit what they can or cannot do in public concerning spy or decoding tech.

Clearly this whole ordeal has caused great concern (fear) worldwide. Now govt and politicians always use fear to pass an agenda... the whole story could be a trojan horse.. where the public's remedies to the invasion of privacy by govt could actually be the trojan horse...

It's about setting the legal precedent to force a company to build something to hack their own devices.

If the FBI just wanted the data on this one phone, they would have just given it to the NSA. The NSA has the tools to hack this thing. They'd just clone the entire devices memory, use an electron microscope to read the device key off the chipset, and put a supercomputing closer to work. They'd have the data pretty quickly.

But they don't actually care about the data on this phone. They want the legal precedent.
 
This is nice - you can have the option, if you want to do a little bit of work (getting your contacts to use this as well), of having security envelopes for your e-mail. Who wouldn't want family related e-mails having some privacy, right?

As others have pointed out, you can't have a functioning democracy without individual privacy and liberty (being able to think and communicate without fear of the govt monitoring them). Until something better comes along in the e-mail space this would seem to provide a good option for folks wanting some privacy for their conversations.

Signal gives you privacy for multiplatform messaging and Proton gives you an option on e-mail.
 
Sexting is a rather ordinary thing that couples do and wouldn't want shared with others. There's nothing illegal or immoral about it.

Also, a lot of people think their email is secure, and they send stuff via email that they really shouldn't. IE, their bank account information. Having your email actually secure is desirable.

One thing I wonder... does proton mail know who is sending and receiving mail, and when they're sending it? Seems like they should somehow prevent themselves from knowing it... IDK how, but that information tells you who is friends with who. Such information could expose members of groups of victims or support groups like alcoholics anonymous.

They use your public key and you decrypt with your private key.
Typically you can include your public key in every email you send encrypted or not.
A person/entity that has the encryption ability will now encrypt all mail sent to you encrypted with your public key.
Only you can read the message with your private key,
 
If I send an email to the FBI using Proton, will they use the writ act to force apple to write code to allow them to crack the email encryption? :p

Maybe you indented this as a joke. But seriously in case some one here missed it: Using this system is Alice sends Bob a message. Alice must give Bob her "public key" and she keeps here private key. But where does she keep it? This is the weak link in many systems

Also this system is not so secure because Bob has to decrypt the message to read it so Bob would have the plain text (readable) message at least for a while and it might get copied or stolen off Bob's computer

This system is only good for preventing snooping of email in transit. The messages must exist in readable form at least for some brief time on both Alice and Bob's computers.

One more thing: Both Alace and Bob might keep ALL their data on encrypted volumes. Now it is getting harder for the government or hackers or spies to get at the data.

This is very different from an encrypted phone.
 
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Proton has served me well over the last twelve months while waiting for this app to be ready for release. This completes the loop.

Me too, and I'm not even a terrorist, kidnapper, paedophile, cop-killer, murderer, or a drug dealer!

I was on the beta program for the iOS App but now they've launched the public version, I've deleted the beta and gone with that instead.

Nice to see it make the MR headlines.
 
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Use this email and support them through donations and pro-account. Tell the world there is a market for ad-free and private internet. I don't want big corporations reading my personal information.

As for terrorists....
I just want to say that they can communicate in anyway and hacking iphones and surveilling email will not help. They can use snail mail with code words, good luck for any government reading the millions of mail letters. They can put the message in an encrypted file, send it over the internet, and decrypt it over the other end.

There are other obscure ways to communicate like IRC, saving files onto a CD and crossing the borders, PSN live chat, Wii U messages... there are many options. Mass surveillance does not work.
 
I installed the mobile app on iFun last night and enabled notifications, yet I get no notification when a message comes in. Am I missing something?
 
They use your public key and you decrypt with your private key.
Typically you can include your public key in every email you send encrypted or not.
A person/entity that has the encryption ability will now encrypt all mail sent to you encrypted with your public key.
Only you can read the message with your private key,

Yes, I understand how the contents of the email is kept secure. What I'm wondering is how the server can deliver the email without knowing who it goes to or when it's sent. The answer, most likely, is that they do know that information. It exposes networks of people who are associated with one another, and it exposes how often they communicate with one another.
 
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