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Graeme43

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Sep 11, 2006
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1,1 prototype internals was a bit different :cool: :apple:

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PDX503

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Aug 14, 2014
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Got around to getting Mavericks back on the system.. (posting from within now).

Interesting thoughts. when booting the system, it will boot EF first then MBR. if there is no apple drive it will attempt to boot an MBR, BUT the system WILL NOT boot from USB. the only way to get OSX back on was to find a working recovery partion on one of the spare drives laying around my house. ( i did not attempt DVD install because I have no access to Diskutils and all attempts at windows solutions and VMs failed.

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Here is the save file from the system report.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdvrifqh495ievg/Mac Pro.spx?dl=0
 

666sheep

macrumors 68040
Dec 7, 2009
3,686
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Poland
Thank you!
As I suspected, firmware revisions (EFI and SMC) are non-production ones. I wish they could be dumped in easy way... In the meantime: were you able to confirm/deny that Northbridge is socketed?
 

PDX503

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Aug 14, 2014
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Confirmed with photos the random jumper i have no idea what it dose but it's solder is broke so must not be important lol

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uhgeyz36gtc2220/AAB3wrt2qMD0XACVMr6OXmYAa?dl=0
 

ScottishCaptain

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Oct 4, 2008
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Oh god, it's one of those "sockets".

I've dealt with those on SGI and HP workstation gear (Unix stuff) before. If I were you, I would never undo that heat sink- there's a good chance that the socket won't make good contact when you tighten it down again and the system will fail. They're only good for a limited number of chip swaps and even then they tend to fail at the slightest provocation.

My guess is that the socket is there to let them swap out the chip in the event of a minor revision without rebuilding the entire board. Something tells me they didn't expect this to happen very often, because those sockets aren't designed for that at all.

-SC
 

LightBulbFun

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Nov 17, 2013
2,900
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London UK
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What do you guys think about this gem?

Very cool a prototype MacPro4,1! (I think?)

same green logic board you see in the service guides

and a classic red prototype PCB for the CPU tray

im very curious does it have its original CPUs still and if so what are they/what stepping are they?

the the lidless CPUs in the service guide are actually ES/QS ones, it would be interesting to know if they where Stepping C0/C1 or stepping D0

it would be cool to see some general Sys profiler shots for boot rom and SMC info :)
 

tsialex

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What do you guys think about this gem?
I'd like very much to inspect a BootROM dump of this Mac. Even if it's updated/current, the BootBlock can show some info and may confirm one of the missing BootROMs from my EFI Release vs BIOS Version vs BootBlock Version Reference Table here:

MP5,1: SPI flash image reconstruction with intermediate files
 

Macproto123

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Jan 12, 2020
7
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San Jose
Very cool a prototype MacPro4,1! (I think?)

same green logic board you see in the service guides

and a classic red prototype PCB for the CPU tray

im very curious does it have its original CPUs still and if so what are they/what stepping are they?

the the lidless CPUs in the service guide are actually ES/QS ones, it would be interesting to know if they where Stepping C0/C1 or stepping D0

it would be cool to see some general Sys profiler shots for boot rom and SMC info :)
Very cool a prototype MacPro4,1! (I think?)

same green logic board you see in the service guides

and a classic red prototype PCB for the CPU tray

im very curious does it have its original CPUs still and if so what are they/what stepping are they?

the the lidless CPUs in the service guide are actually ES/QS ones, it would be interesting to know if they where Stepping C0/C1 or stepping D0

it would be cool to see some general Sys profiler shots for boot rom and SMC info :)

I believe It’s dual x5670, the person I got it from said it was dual 6 core processors (he can be trusted) which doesn’t really make sense because those didn’t come out till 2010. The only problem is the psu is out so I can’t boot it.
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What’s something like this worth?
 
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LightBulbFun

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Nov 17, 2013
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I would not say it is

because although its a Prototype (probably a DVT rather then an EVT, but im not 100% sure, normally there are EVT/DVT/PVT stickers around the place)

I dont think it has any features that never made it to production like that 3G MBP did

also clearly the machine is no longer stock, which will detract from its value

especially if its lost its original engineering sample CPUs and and firmware, and it also looks like the GPU is not stock either
 
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