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CraigJDuffy

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It should be provided as an option - if I don't use HDMI with my iPad then I don't want a gaping port for it. Then again... there are those who do. So, make it an option in exchange for a mild price bump (say, $50-$100 for HDMI model)
the correct response is to use USB c and have an adapter for HDMI in.
 

CraigJDuffy

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Hello all,

At this point, imagine all the iPads and other tablets laying around doing nothing. If they could all accept an HDMI signal, you might be reusing one now as a screen. It might be a PS3 screen. It might be what you play movies on in the car for the kids.

Instead, they're e-waste.

It's my opinion that tablets should be required to accept an HDMI signal, and behave as a monitor to be sold. This behaviour would allow all sorts of options without having to purchase stupid little monitors for things… like that last Raspberry Pi sitting in your desk, etc.

What do you think? Am I wrong?
Accept a HDMI in signal I can agree with but do it via a USB C adapter.
 
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jagolden

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I love this one too…
 

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curnalpanic

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I think there are controller boards that would let you repurpose the LCD as an external monitor. Only problem is you have to disassemble the iPad in the process.
 

cthompson94

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I don't agree with this, tablets are output devices and if anything your post should be "required to have HDMI out" if you want basically a monitor there are tons and tons of them that are perfectly tablet size and 4k for much cheaper than majority of tablets and some even have pretty high refresh rates. This seems to be some "solution" to e-waste that a very tiny amount of people will actually do and the majority will not want a HDMI port on their device that will never get touched and I don't think it would be smart for any company that makes tablets to create this niche tablet because it really won't sell that well. I feel like the majority of people who dabble into things like Raspberry Pi will already have a possible plan in place like a smart home manager and buy a cheap touch monitor that fits the size need.

Another small thing to note too is the battery on a tablet, sure you can keep it plugged in like a monitor and never worry about that, but what about when the battery eventually swells up even with the most efficient battery manager software on the market you would need to still supply power to the battery and it will eventually swell so now you have a fire hazard in your wall (in the home manager example)
 
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Spaceboi Scaphandre

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They do accept an HDMI signal. You just gotta plug it into the USB-C, either directly using a HDMI to USB-C cable, a dongle, or a docking station. In the Microsoft Surface's case you would turn on "Projecting to this PC," and with an iPad use the app XDisplay

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If what you want is an HDMI port on tablets, you ain't getting one lmao.
 
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WoodTableFromIkea

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There's actually a Sony smartphone with HDMI-in, and the use case is that you can hook it up to a camera and view the footage you take in 4k resolution.

I don't know what's involved in enabling this functionality, but I think it's also a very niche use case. Most iPads are too small to be used reliably as an external monitor, and a 15" portable monitor can be had for cheap.
Yeah, but that specific model has a very specific user in mind: movie and photograpy industry pros. iPad is for "everybody".
 

JustinKent

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Super niche use case, but I'd like to be able to connect my iPhone to my iPad, using the iPhone as a camera and the iPad as a monitor. USB-C to Lightning cable to reduce latency.

As I think about it, I realize this would pretty much give you what you were asking for... if there were an HDMI to USB-C adapter/cable and the iPad supported video-in over USB-C.

But I don't think this should be forced by legislation or anything like that. I'd view it more as an opportunity for Apple or a third-party app developer like Duet to enable something like this, which is probably an edge case that not many users are asking for.
 

JPack

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I think the OP means a video signal in general, rather than HDMI. An iPad, for example, could be made to accept video input through its USB-C/Thunderbolt port.

I would like to see all-in-one computers (e.g. iMac) having a Target Display Mode feature in order to be sold. That is something I can get behind, and would certainly help prevent e-waste.

Mac and iPad users already have Sidecar support. PC users would simply buy a 24-inch monitor for $100. Alternatively, they can splurge $200 on a portable 14-inch monitor from Lenovo or Dell.
 

millydog

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I’d love to be able to use my iPad as a screen for my Nintendo Switch or my Raspberry Pi. I can actually remote into my Raspberry Pi though after initial setup, so that is achievable, perhaps just a bit clunky.
However, I don’t think that all tablets should be “required” to have HDMI in.
 

Abazigal

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Super niche use case, but I'd like to be able to connect my iPhone to my iPad, using the iPhone as a camera and the iPad as a monitor. USB-C to Lightning cable to reduce latency.
I think that there's an app for that, but I hear performance is pretty mixed.

Filmic Pro or something?
 

klasma

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I don't agree with this, tablets are output devices and if anything your post should be "required to have HDMI out" if you want basically a monitor there are tons and tons of them that are perfectly tablet size and 4k for much cheaper than majority of tablets and some even have pretty high refresh rates.
I have been looking around and haven’t found anything suitable. Most are too large (15” or more), and they need an extra power connection and are generally clunky compared to a tablet. The “portable” ones I tried also weren’t completely noiseless (faint hum from the electronics or the backlight) and had abysmal audio quality. Adjusting brightness and contrast was very fiddly. My use case would be to connect a Blu-ray player with a long HDMI cable while lounging on the sofa or in bed. It would be great if an iPad could take HDMI input in some way, but alas it doesn’t.
 

unchecked

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That's why we get USB-C ports. So we can easily adapt it to other ports.

Provided Apple doesn't do the crummy thing and cripple any accessory that isn't MFI.
 

PauloSera

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Hello all,

At this point, imagine all the iPads and other tablets laying around doing nothing. If they could all accept an HDMI signal, you might be reusing one now as a screen. It might be a PS3 screen. It might be what you play movies on in the car for the kids.

Instead, they're e-waste.

It's my opinion that tablets should be required to accept an HDMI signal, and behave as a monitor to be sold. This behaviour would allow all sorts of options without having to purchase stupid little monitors for things… like that last Raspberry Pi sitting in your desk, etc.

What do you think? Am I wrong?
Of course you're wrong. This is a good example of someone who knows just enough about something to be completely wrong in their alcohol-induced musing.
 

stocklen

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Hello all,

At this point, imagine all the iPads and other tablets laying around doing nothing. If they could all accept an HDMI signal, you might be reusing one now as a screen. It might be a PS3 screen. It might be what you play movies on in the car for the kids.

Instead, they're e-waste.

It's my opinion that tablets should be required to accept an HDMI signal, and behave as a monitor to be sold. This behaviour would allow all sorts of options without having to purchase stupid little monitors for things… like that last Raspberry Pi sitting in your desk, etc.

What do you think? Am I wrong?

why dont you prove you right?

not up to us to prove you wrong.

Stupid feature. More expense. Bigger connector. Not wanted.
 

cnnyy20p

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I think the people in the comment section misunderstood OP's intention (or just read the tittle). While I think it shouldn't be forced Apple should really provide a feature like this. (iPad is after all all about the display) I did remember wanting this feature on my iPad so I can plug in my Nintendo Switch to a bigger portable screen to play game with friends on the go. The Switch's display is just too damn small.

I did some research about this long time ago. It requires addition hardware like a separate video signal receiver which doesn't worth the space within the iPads and battery life or something along that line. Could be different nowadays since we see many portable display on the market.
 

ric22

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Hello all,

At this point, imagine all the iPads and other tablets laying around doing nothing. If they could all accept an HDMI signal, you might be reusing one now as a screen. It might be a PS3 screen. It might be what you play movies on in the car for the kids.

Instead, they're e-waste.

It's my opinion that tablets should be required to accept an HDMI signal, and behave as a monitor to be sold. This behaviour would allow all sorts of options without having to purchase stupid little monitors for things… like that last Raspberry Pi sitting in your desk, etc.

What do you think? Am I wrong?
I agree for all new devices, so long as the feature doesn't take up much space. All in one desktops should certainly have HDMI in. The cost would negligible, and it would prolong the life of the devices before they're e-waste. Companies haven't done it (particularly on all-in-ones) because this feature only benefits users, and not them.

Edit: It's fair to add, it's hard to envisage any good reason for anyone to object to this handy little feature.
 
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