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Cape Dave

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Don’t know about whoosh but all sprays will leave streaks on glass for a day until the streaks break down and evaporate.

The trick is don’t spray direct on screen and after you wipe use a dry micro cloth or dry side to dab gently with long stokes. Don’t make circular strokes. Wax on, wax off style.
Um, wasn't wax on wax off style actually circles, then backwards circles?
 

Apple_Robert

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Unless my screen happens to have smudges or fingerprints for some illogical reason, I use a super soft feather duster to clean the screen. Doing that has kept the cleaning with the microfiber cloth a rare instance.
 
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212rikanmofo

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Just use water and a microfiber towel people. Seriously wasting time and money on these ridiculous "clean screen" products. It's just as silly as those installing antivirus programs on their machines thinking that they're actually protecting them when in reality it's causing more harm than good. Some times simple is usually better.
 

3Rock

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why not? I read somewhere that 100% alcohol can damage the coatings, but <70% is OK
Wouldn’t want to take the chance using something that if it slightly burns the skin, then put it on a laptop screen doesn’t seem logical and really not necessary when you can use a little water instead. cheaper to
 
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Fomalhaut

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Wouldn’t want to take the chance using something that if it slightly burns the skin, then put it on a laptop screen doesn’t seem logical and really not necessary when you can use a little water instead. cheaper to
I'd agree that "less is better" when it comes to applying any kind of solvent. I doubt water alone is great for removing any kind of oils from fingers etc. though.

As for 70% alcohol "burning the skin" what have you been rubbing your hands with in just about every store, public space, or even at home for the last 18 months :)
 
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Sheepish-Lord

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I am coming in to report the same thing. I was very, very unimpressed with the performance of this spray on my 14" MacBook Pro. Are these streaks permanent? We have until January to exchange these MacBook Pros, right?
Just wow. I hope Apple denies your return.
 
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kvlq

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i thought water contains minerals which leaves residues (for e.g. limestone).
 

Wando64

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i thought water contains minerals which leaves residues (for e.g. limestone).
You are not meant to leave water on the screen to dry.
The cloth is meant to be moist, not wet. And in any case I always finish with a dry part of the cloth.



Anyway, to make it easier for everyone else, here are Apple’s instructions for cleaning a Mac screen:

But if anyone think they can do better, go ahead. Just don’t expect Apple to replace your damaged screen.
 

Bandaman

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I'd agree that "less is better" when it comes to applying any kind of solvent. I doubt water alone is great for removing any kind of oils from fingers etc. though.

As for 70% alcohol "burning the skin" what have you been rubbing your hands with in just about every store, public space, or even at home for the last 18 months :)
The microfiber cloth is mostly what gets rid of the oils, this includes smudgy child fingers. You don’t need cleaning solutions, just water and a microfiber cloth.
 

3Rock

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I'd agree that "less is better" when it comes to applying any kind of solvent. I doubt water alone is great for removing any kind of oils from fingers etc. though.

As for 70% alcohol "burning the skin" what have you been rubbing your hands with in just about every store, public space, or even at home for the last 18 months :)
Soap. At home and nowhere else except at the doctors office
 

Matck06

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I use the zeiss wipes with the zeiss microfiber and nothing to say it does the job very well on my fujifilm lenses or my macbook pro 16 and does not leave any traces or scratches, really I recommend this product

These products are designed for camera lenses, the lens coating is extremely sensitive and these products do not leave any scratches.
 
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fl_MDG

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Water with a rag cut from an old cotton t-shirt works best for me. I have more streaks when I use a microfiber.
 

TSE

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I hope they don’t deny any one’s return, but damage caused by misuse could be the reason why they might.

Note the important warnings in their page explaining how to clean the screen:

Well, I just used water and t-shirt and it got rid of everything and made the screen look flawless.

Everyone, don't buy this trash snake oil product! Please don't!!! Save yourself $15, use a clean t-shirt and water. Works one thousand million times better.

I fell for the hype - "Apple uses this!" "Look at this old chemist guy in a lab coat that's responsible for this crazy good formula" "Amazon recommended" ALL TRASH for this SCAM product!
 

fessura

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Anyone use Whoosh mainly to clean the rest of their MacBook? Seems like it might be decent for primarily cleaning the aluminum and keyboard, perhaps making such less prone to grime buildup and making subsequent cleaning easier. Not convinced of the non-toxicity though I may still use it.
 

bill-p

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Problem is that the new MacBook Pro XDR screen is different than previous gen. It's more flimsy or thin. iPhone screens are glass.

No, the glass is not any different from the 2016 - 2020 MacBooks. Those are also very easy to scratch. They were so easy to scratch that you can actually see the keyboard + trackpad indentations on the screen after about one year of ownership without a screen protector or anything soft in between the keys and screen. And yes, I owned all of the generations so I know.

Yes, iPhone and iPad screens are more resilient.

In any case, Zeiss wipes are the best. Those who are still following Apple's guidelines are IGNORANT because they obviously have not owned any of the 2016 - 2020 MacBooks and have not experienced the problem with coating being damaged by keyboard and trackpad. I have had 2 screen replacements due to this and then from that point on, I'd just put a screen protector on all of my MacBooks and call it a day.

P.S.: for those who think I'm just spouting nonsense: here's a simple test: use your iPhone as a flashlight and shine on the "flawless" display of your Mac after you have wiped it with any microfiber cloth dipped in water. Then tell me you can't detect any micro scratch.
 

TinyMito

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Yeah those keys are making a mark on the screen when stored in bag...yikes.
 
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Wando64

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In any case, Zeiss wipes are the best. Those who are still following Apple's guidelines are IGNORANT because they obviously have not owned any of the 2016 - 2020 MacBooks and have not experienced the problem with coating being damaged by keyboard and trackpad. I have had 2 screen replacements due to this and then from that point on, I'd just put a screen protector on all of my MacBooks and call it a day.

I don’t mean to be rude, but I can’t follow the link between one sentence and the next.
What does the cleaning method has to do with damage to the “coating” caused by the “keyboard and the trackpad”?
What does a screen protector has to do with Apple’s guidelines for cleaning the screen?
What does your choice of screen cleaning product (Zeiss wipes) has to do with anything if you are actually cleaning a protector film instead of the screen?

I follow Apple’s guidelines for cleaning the screen because they work best for me, and so far I’ve never had a damaged screen.
Everyone else can use whatever product they prefer, however anyone that does so should also be aware that if their chosen cleaning product damages the screen, they might not be able have a claim with Apple.
 
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