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garethjs

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not sure why but it does compare the 14" binned m3 pro pro with a 16" m3 pro entry if the size does make a difference.

 

darthbane2k

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Yes it has 18gb. But 36gb will cost you $400 more so that's the math. Of course I'd like more ram, but it just doesn't feel right regardless of the money. If I find at some point I need the ram I will trade it in and get it.
I also cannot bring myself to pay for Apples RAM upgrade. Just feels like daylight robbery. If it were a £200 upgrade then maybe. But £400?!
 

ArkSingularity

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Can someone please explain binned and unbind in one sentence preferably?
Nearly all chip manufacturers will "bin" chips that have a defective component and sell it as another chip model that has that defective component disabled (it's standard practice in the industry, it greatly increases yields and prevents these chips from having to be thrown in the trash). The unbinned chip is the chip that has all of its components enabled, and the binned chip is the lower-tier model that is usually sold at a lower price.

In Apple's case, the binned chip has 5P cores instead of 6P cores, and 14 graphics cores instead of 18 graphics cores. Both chips were manufactured exactly the same way, the binned one just has some cores disabled.

Intel does this too. Typically the i3, i5, and i7 chips will all come from the same basic dies sent to the manufacturing plant (all chips are made to be i7s). Then they're all tested, and the best dies are sold as i7s with everything enabled. A chip that couldn't pass as an i7 might become an i5 (might have a small amount of cache disabled, have fewer cores, run at slightly lower clock speeds, etc. Just depends on the model), and so on.

Back in the day, people actually figured out how to re-enable the disabled core in some very old AMD 3-core processors. Often the core did actually work (AMD still has to meet orders and might bin some perfectly good chips to meet demand), and in cases where it did, you could get a quad core for the price of a 3-core. Nowadays chip manufacturers fuse the disabled parts off, so that's usually not possible today.
 
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ethandt72

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May 10, 2016
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I was forced to buy a new MacBook Pro yesterday as I ruined my late 2019 MBP 16", the last of the Intels. It was still running pretty well and I had no intentions of upgrading in the near future.

I ended up getting the M3 Pro with 12-core CPU and 18-core GPU, 18bg of RAM, and the 1TB drive. Got it today and just got it all set up. Firs thing I am noticing is the feel of the keyboard is much more to my liking. The color (Space Black) is beautiful. Notch will take just a few to get used to but the display quality and how rich the blacks are are really jumping out.

I am a creative Director and Graphic Designer so I am excited to get into some every day work and see much faster Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign are.

I got a refurb, $2,289. Not bad considering the 1tb drive.
 
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ArkSingularity

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I was forced to buy a new MacBook Pro yesterday as I ruined my late 2019 MBP 16", the last of the Intels. It was still running pretty well and I had no intentions of upgrading in the near future.

I ended up getting the M3 Pro with 12-core CPU and 18-core GPU, 18bg of RAM, and the 1TB drive. Got it today and just got it all set up. Firs thing I am noticing is the feel of the keyboard is much more to my liking. The color (Space Black) is beautiful. Notch will take just a few to get used to but the display quality and how rich the blacks are are really jumping out.

I am a creative Director and Graphic Designer so I am excited to get into some every day work and see much faster Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign are.

I got a refurb, $2,289. Not bad considering the 1tb drive.
That's a great deal.
 
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