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What if I attached one of these to my cable and then plugged it into my future EyeTV Hybrid? http://www.cableboxfilters.com/

Could I then get digital cable without having a cable box?

That filter is something completely different.
Looks like that is a big time scam website...

Looked at the page for one minute I saw:

www.cableboxfilters.com said:
All Items on SALE!
All items have been reduced in price by $20-$40! Sale ends TODAY! Place your order now!

That is obviously a lie since it is in the body of the text.

Also there ordering page does not have SSL. You are just sending you private info over the web with no protection.

My advise is to stay away from that site.


As multimedia said your best bet is OTA digital. Why not just do that?
 
Ronni3,
How is the Slingbox?
Were you satisfied, how were you using it.
I'm looking into streaming my TV signal through the house on my wi-fi .11g signal.
 
Ronni3,
How is the Slingbox?
Were you satisfied, how were you using it.
I'm looking into streaming my TV signal through the house on my wi-fi .11g signal.

I had it wired to my router and I would stream live TV to work. The quality is good, even when I had 2 or 3 torrents downloading in the background at home. I also had the TV stream to my laptop in my kitchen whenever I was washing the dishes, which actually made me want to do the dishes. :D

I like the Slingbox, and may decide to keep it, but I haven't used it enough to justify my having it. I think it is a great idea for someone that likes watching their TV on the road, in a hotel, while waiting for your plane, etc...

If no one takes it soon I think I will keep it.
 
Kinda related to the topic

I have a question about the eyetv hybrid and 250. The elgato website says you can use the 250 to back up VHS tapes, but doesn't say you can do this with the hybrid. Is this due to the processing power required to encode? (because it seems like you could just plug a VCR into the coax on the hybrid and record it)
 
HEADS UP!

The hybrid WON'T pause live tv. You can't rewind it either unless you are recording. My eyetv 200 does this and I am sure the 250 does as well. This was a MAJOR let down. I am back on the 200.
 
I have a question about the eyetv hybrid and 250. The elgato website says you can use the 250 to back up VHS tapes, but doesn't say you can do this with the hybrid. Is this due to the processing power required to encode? (because it seems like you could just plug a VCR into the coax on the hybrid and record it)

Yah it will record it fine. Don't know why it says it won't... Just plug it in via coax,composite, or s-video.
 
HEADS UP!

The hybrid WON'T pause live tv. You can't rewind it either unless you are recording. My eyetv 200 does this and I am sure the 250 does as well. This was a MAJOR let down. I am back on the 200.

This post is not correct. At least not entirely.

1. If you are recording Digital signal you can pause/rewind whenever you want.

2. The hybrid can "pause" live analog TV if you are already recording it.
(It can not pause analog TV if you are not recording)



You should have read before you bought... Get an antenna and pick up some ATSC signal ;)
 
This post is not correct. At least not entirely.

1. If you are recording Digital signal you can pause/rewind whenever you want.

2. The hybrid can "pause" live analog TV if you are already recording it.
(It can not pause analog TV if you are not recording)



You should have read before you bought... Get an antenna and pick up some ATSC signal ;)


Umm, yeah. That's what I just said. You should have read my post before you replied. :eek:
 
Umm, yeah. That's what I just said. You should have read my post before you replied. :eek:

That is not what you said.

You said "The hybrid WON'T pause live tv."

This could not be more WRONG. I have live digital TV paused right now while I am posting this message. And no I am not recording it.

Before you tell me to go read, you should learn how to read about the product you are purchasing :eek:
 
First of all, I'm curious as to where you are that you can't get any digital (aka HD) channels, but you do get analog channels. I get digital channels significantly more clearly than analog channels.

As people have said, in the United States, conventional analog TV signals WILL go away on January 30, 2009. That means if you buy an analog-only tuner for the primary purpose of watching analog broadcast TV, it will be useless in less than 2 years. You can still use it to watch analog cable (until the cable companies decide to stop supporting it. They are under no mandate past 2009, they just know that to immediately obsolete every single "Cable Ready" TV made in the past 20 years would be suicide.) You can still use it to watch VHS tapes, game consoles, etc, connected through it. But the TV tuner part of it will become useless in less than 2 years.

The Hybrid, on the other hand, has both a 'less featured' analog tuner plus a digital tuner. You can pause live analog TV on it, but it is really 'freeze frame', and doesn't have time-shifting capability unless you are recording at the same time. (I only have one channel in my area that I watch that is analog-only, so when I watch it, I just always hit 'record' so I get the same functionality as I do on digital channels. I just delete the recording afterward.) Of course, it does fully support 'scheduled recording' of analog channels, for later playback, just fine. It will even auto-export it to iTunes as a TV show for you.

As for recording power needed, I'm recording an analog show right now, at maximum quality, (DVD compliant MPEG-2,) and EyeTV is using 120% of my 2.0 GHz Core Duo. That means a single-core computer wouldn't be able to do it, but any dual core should handle it. You won't have much processing power left over on a dual-core 1.66 GHz machine, but you should get full quality. Merely watching analog TV uses only 20% of my processor, on maximum settings ('Best' quality with 'Progressive Scan' deinterlacing.) Watching high bitrate full 1080i HD uses about 80%, so it should be marginally watchable on a single-core Intel, and fully watchable on even the slowest dual-core Intel. If I drop analog live quality to 'Good' and no deinterlacing, processor time drops to 5%, and recording at lowest quality (Video CD compliant) is at a lowly 28%.

Oh, and if you want to play a video game system through your EyeTV, the Hybrid is the way to go. It has zero lag, since it is just spitting out the raw data, as opposed to the 200 and 250, which have to encode it for transfer, which adds lag. (I play my GameCube (LEGO Star Wars II, Enter The Matrix, and a couple other games,) through it all the time. And hooked my Wii up just to see if it was playable. it is.)
 
And to build on my 'less than 2 years' comment:

If you did get a non-digital tuner, it is guaranteed to go dark in 2 years. If you get a digital tuner, then while you're not GUARANTEED to get a signal in 2 years, it's the only chance you have. (i.e. broadcasters will either move to digital transmitters or go out of business.)

If you happen to be just that you are far away from a transmitter, then any external amplified antenna that gives you a decent analog signal will give you a perfect digital signal, too. And in the event that the only reason you're getting analog at all is because of 'repeaters' that haven't gone digital yet, either the broadcaster will make their repeaters digital, or they will abandon all viewers watching via repeaters. In which case, *NO* tuner will work for you. But I doubt that will happen.
 
And to build on my 'less than 2 years' comment:

If you did get a non-digital tuner, it is guaranteed to go dark in 2 years. If you get a digital tuner, then while you're not GUARANTEED to get a signal in 2 years, it's the only chance you have. (i.e. broadcasters will either move to digital transmitters or go out of business.)

If you happen to be just that you are far away from a transmitter, then any external amplified antenna that gives you a decent analog signal will give you a perfect digital signal, too. And in the event that the only reason you're getting analog at all is because of 'repeaters' that haven't gone digital yet, either the broadcaster will make their repeaters digital, or they will abandon all viewers watching via repeaters. In which case, *NO* tuner will work for you. But I doubt that will happen.

We get digital cable here via a line into the house and we pay for it. It's really great but, I don't think it's HD quality. I think it's analog resolution but, a digital signal rather than analog. Anyway, digital is much better.

Also, I don't think the Hybrid can even pick up digital signals from a Coaxial cable since the Hybrid doesn't support QAM. So am I right in thinking that the ONLY way to get digital television onto your Mac with the Hybrid is to use OTA signals and a very very strong antenna? OTA HD isn't really showing up around here... just take a look at area code "03835" on antennaweb.org and you'll see what I mean. I can only get analog over the air and I need like a really expensive antenna just to get those channels, so it's not worth the money to buy an antenna until HD is in my area.
 
We get digital cable here via a line into the house and we pay for it. It's really great but, I don't think it's HD quality. I think it's analog resolution but, a digital signal rather than analog. Anyway, digital is much better.

Also, I don't think the Hybrid can even pick up digital signals from a Coaxial cable since the Hybrid doesn't support QAM. So am I right in thinking that the ONLY way to get digital television onto your Mac with the Hybrid is to use OTA signals and a very very strong antenna? OTA HD isn't really showing up around here... just take a look at area code "03835" on antennaweb.org and you'll see what I mean. I can only get analog over the air and I need like a really expensive antenna just to get those channels, so it's not worth the money to buy an antenna until HD is in my area.

You have a bunch of misinformation in here..

Analog and digital are signal types. They have nothing to do with resolution. (But yes often digital channel are broadcast in HD)

A Hybrid can pick up digital signal from coaxial cable just fine, but it has to be ATSC digital signal. The hybrid does not support QAM, that is correct.

You really don't need a strong antenna. I had a pair of about 20 year old bunny ears and I was picking up a few digital channels over those. (I am about 30 miles away from the "Main TV Broadcasters".

In-fact I find it to be much easier to get digital OTA than analog OTA.

If you can get analog stations good with an antenna and you have a few digital stations. You should be set. ;)
 
You have a bunch of misinformation in here..

Analog and digital are signal types. They have nothing to do with resolution. (But yes often digital channel are broadcast in HD)

A Hybrid can pick up digital signal from coaxial cable just fine, but it has to be ATSC digital signal. The hybrid does not support QAM, that is correct.

You really don't need a strong antenna. I had a pair of about 20 year old bunny ears and I was picking up a few digital channels over those. (I am about 30 miles away from the "Main TV Broadcasters".

In-fact I find it to be much easier to get digital OTA than analog OTA.

If you can get analog stations good with an antenna and you have a few digital stations. You should be set. ;)

There are NO digital channels broadcasting OTA in my area.... none. So I don't see how a pair of bunny ears are gonna help me. Is antennaweb.org really accurate?
 
First of all, I'm curious as to where you are that you can't get any digital (aka HD) channels, but you do get analog channels. I get digital channels significantly more clearly than analog channels.

There is no quality issue per se with digital tv signals. You either get it or you don't. It isn't like analog where you can get a fuzzy signal. So, if you are far away from the transmitter, or don't have a good enough antenna for where you live, you are sol.

cheers.
 
There are NO digital channels broadcasting OTA in my area.... none. So I don't see how a pair of bunny ears are gonna help me. Is antennaweb.org really accurate?

antennaweb.org said you had NBC and ABC digital channels at the zip you provided....
 
There is no quality issue per se with digital tv signals. You either get it or you don't. It isn't like analog where you can get a fuzzy signal. So, if you are far away from the transmitter, or don't have a good enough antenna for where you live, you are sol.

cheers.

Exactly!

All or nothing with digital. (although sometimes you can get a channel partially and it will "block out.")
 
antennaweb.org said you had NBC and ABC digital channels at the zip you provided....

Hmmm.... I didn't see any.... I actually typed in my entire address to get a better pinpoint report. I'll look up the straight zip code and see what happens.

EDIT: Looks like I need a huge antenna to get NBC and ABC. I'm just about ready to give up on it all together.
 

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