Question: Cost of Leopard Upgrade?

[Allotriophagy]

I think OS X sells for a very reasonable price. It is $149CAD, compared to $299 for Vista Ultimate (Upgrade).

Although of course, with Vista that is the last sum you will pay for the OS for the next five or six years.

£70 every 2-3 years isn't that much... It's less than 1/2 cigarette a day or 10p a day for 2 years.

I don't smoke. And I don't know what you are smoking, but OS X isn't updated every 2-3 years. It has so far been an average of sixteen months between updates from 10.2 to 10.4.

 

[zign]

Although of course, with Vista that is the last sum you will pay for the OS for the next five or six years.



I don't smoke. And I don't know what you are smoking, but OS X isn't updated every 2-3 years. It has so far been an average of sixteen months between updates from 10.2 to 10.4.

10.4 - April 2005?
10.5 - 2007 with one month to go before April.

Why would they give it to you for free? They've worked hard and I think £70 isn't that much to ask for 2 years, ok 16 months. Anyway, if you think that the price is too high, stay with Tiger or buy Vista and be set for 6 years. If you think about it you pay £240 for Vista Update, so for the same amount you will go up to 10.7

 

[Allotriophagy]

Or perhaps I will just ILLEGALLY DOWNLOAD IT and send Apple a padded envelope with £30 in loose change and my old copies of .2, .3 and .4!

 

[emac82]

Although of course, with Vista that is the last sum you will pay for the OS for the next five or six years.



I don't smoke. And I don't know what you are smoking, but OS X isn't updated every 2-3 years. It has so far been an average of sixteen months between updates from 10.2 to 10.4.

Vista wasn't a free upgrade, it was free except for the fact that you have to pay shipping and handling (between $9-25) depending on the manufacturer.

Also, last time it was like $9.99 for Apple customers to go to Tiger from recently purchased Panther machines.

 

[iW00t]

Although of course, with Vista that is the last sum you will pay for the OS for the next five or six years.



I don't smoke. And I don't know what you are smoking, but OS X isn't updated every 2-3 years. It has so far been an average of sixteen months between updates from 10.2 to 10.4.

One thing to consider is with Vista's new licensing schemes ($400 retail installs can only be moved to a different machine... once ever?!) it makes Macs look cheap almost.

 

[Allotriophagy]

You may as well be comparing the cost of OS X to Irix or OS/2 or GEM. And Vista could be given away for free with boxes of Crunchy Nut Cornflakes, for all the relevance it has to me.

The large mark-up on Apple hardware and the fairly regular and not-insignificant cost of OS upgrades rather annoys me. And why should it not?

I'd understand if OS X was hardware independent and it was Apple's main revenue, but it's not. The fact is that people who buy OS X have also bought Apple's hardware - it leaves me feeling gouged. Apple's development costs for OS X are shrinking - the hard work is behind them and now it is mainly about gilding the lily.

But here we are again, for the moveable feast of the wallet opening...

(And the amount of packaging for OS X is vulgar - Apple really ought to have a downloadable version I can burn to my own media, using the Superdrive-equipped machine I bought from them. They can even lock it to the machine I download it to, if they like.)

 

[iW00t]

You may as well be comparing the cost of OS X to Irix or OS/2 or GEM. And Vista could be given away for free with boxes of Crunchy Nut Cornflakes, for all the relevance it has to me.

The large mark-up on Apple hardware and the fairly regular and not-insignificant cost of OS upgrades rather annoys me. And why should it not?

I'd understand if OS X was hardware independent and it was Apple's main revenue, but it's not. The fact is that people who buy OS X have also bought Apple's hardware - it leaves me feeling gouged. Apple's development costs for OS X are shrinking - the hard work is behind them and now it is mainly about gilding the lily.

But here we are again, for the moveable feast of the wallet opening...

(And the amount of packaging for OS X is vulgar - Apple really ought to have a downloadable version I can burn to my own media, using the Superdrive-equipped machine I bought from them. They can even lock it to the machine I download it to, if they like.)

Actually for the amount of functionality you get for $129 it is very worth it.

$129 is barely the price of like 3-4 shareware applications all of which does probably 1 thing each, for the money Leopard really delivers.

 

[Sun Baked]

If you want to see what the Leopard terms and conditions page should look like, just look at the wayback version.

Tiger Up-to-Date Program

Remember the date this started was the day, Tiger's ship date was officially announced on April 12th for shipment on April 29th.

 

[Allotriophagy]

Actually for the amount of functionality you get for $129 it is very worth it.

The amount of functionality I am expecting to get from it seems minimal, other than that I will probably need it to run other software I do need. Time Machine...Spaces...erm...new Mail templates...

$129 is barely the price of like 3-4 shareware applications all of which does probably 1 thing each, for the money Leopard really delivers.

Shareware isn't created by a billion dollar corporation which can rely on a certain percentage of sales due to hardware lock-in and an entrenched upgrade culture.

As for paying for software "which does probably 1 thing", that is pretty much what I imagine I will be buying 10.5 for - the ability to run other software which has it as a prerequisite.

Of course, if things like Office only require 10.4 I have a little more choice in the matter.

 

[zign]

The amount of functionality I am expecting to get from it seems minimal, other than that I will probably need it to run other software I do need. Time Machine...Spaces...erm...new Mail templates...



Shareware isn't created by a billion dollar corporation which can rely on a certain percentage of sales due to hardware lock-in and an entrenched upgrade culture.

As for paying for software "which does probably 1 thing", that is pretty much what I imagine I will be buying 10.5 for - the ability to run other software which has it as a prerequisite.

Of course, if things like Office only require 10.4 I have a little more choice in the matter.

I think there will be quite a few enhancements I am looking forward to, such as Quartz 2D Extreme. If they actually implement the technology, it should improve the overall user experience. I am not sure if it has been confirmed, but I believe it will finally be activated in 10.5. I would much more for that alone. I'll be buying a family pack in my case, as I have 2 soon to be 3 macs.

 

[Allotriophagy]

If they actually implement the technology, it should improve the overall user experience.

More ZING! for zign, eh!

 

[zign]

More ZING! for zign, eh!

As I said before, you can keep Tiger or download the illegal copy. Do whatever you want. A 10 year old can afford £70 (89 without the student discount) every two years.