Quick Logo....

[LeviG]

I have taken into consideration all of the advice given.

but you're not using the information given to you.

About hiring a designer I really like the satisfaction of completing things in life on my own. Like changing my oil in my cars, home repairs etc.

I never said hire one, but it would be the best approach from what I've seen so far. And no offence here, but changing oil/doing home repairs is nothing like doing design - can you say a mechanic/builder could do your (or my) job without any training, I bet in most cases it wouldn't be very good if they tried.

I posted on here for some direction and alot of people give great ideas. Now on the other hand people love bashing on here about whatever people do.

again, you are not using the direction given, most have said they like jasonelise design (the one with scissors) so you go off and do one similar but still miss the key aspects of why people liked his design. Now its a barber pole which has no relevance to dogs from most peoples perspective.
You're still working with colour first, this is a bad way to work, have you used a pen and paper to do concepts? Have you made a list of what makes your company special? I don't think you have, so make a post on here about what makes your company so special and then we could probably tell you what to focus on.

I will succeed in hammering out a logo whether it is one of mine or some professional. Thanks MC

I dare say you will but you will not get there without taking on board the advice - ask if you don't understand what we say.

 

[Eric5h5]

About hiring a designer I really like the satisfaction of completing things in life on my own. Like changing my oil in my cars, home repairs etc.

I'm totally that way too, but there's a big difference between your own stuff and something that's part of a business. If you owned a restaurant, say, and you don't know how to cook, I sincerely hope you wouldn't decide to be one of the chefs just because you want to do everything on your own. When your customers start dying of food poisoning, the business won't last long....

Although it's not (quite ) as bad as food poisoning, by now it's painfully obvious that you have no design abilities, so just do yourself a favor and hire a designer. There's no shame at all in being able to recognize your own limitations--quite the opposite, in fact. The most successful people in business hire people smarter than themselves and let them do what they are really good at doing.

--Eric

 

[wongulous]

Have owned the Pink Poodle for 8 years. About hiring a designer I really like the satisfaction of completing things in life on my own. Like changing my oil in my cars, home repairs etc. I will succeed in hammering out a logo whether it is one of mine or some professional.

This thread is such a trainwreck, and it's because of you. You have the best of intents, but refuse to listen to anyone's advice or even logic, and freely admit so. This quoted passage sums it up well.

Here you say that you have been a business owner for 8 years--how could you, in that time, have garnered the experience required to create a corporate identity? Hello?

You say that you like the satisfaction of doing things on your own; surely as a business owner you understand the importance in "outsourcing" some things. You may have access to buy all of the chemicals and gelatins and conditioning agents to mix and create your own dog shampoos--but do you, in your kitchen? Would it ever work as well as commercial solutions? Would you be sure that no dog would have an allergic reaction? Would the scent last as long on the coat? What if someone asks for a different type of shampoo, are you going to interrupt your businesses to go back to the drawing board to re-mix a new version and reinvest all of that money? How do you know it would "keep" as long before getting rotten without hard-to-find preservatives? Etc. I could make an analogy about installing a new furnace/air conditioner system, or about upholstering your couch, or catering your grand opening. Why on earth would you want to do that yourself if you want it to be presentable? I commend your computer-geek-like veracity of thinking you can master and "hack" anything, but in this case, you quite obviously cannot.

And I love how at the end you basically say you refuse to pay anyone for this service, and you're going to make a logo/identity, whether you do it yourself, or a professional does it for you. Great attitude there, cheapskate user. Just realize you're not likely to get another single OUNCE of advice in this thread.

And good luck to you--you'll need it.

 

[Topher15]

About hiring a designer I really like the satisfaction of completing things in life on my own.

Surely your company identity should be a business decision, not an ego thing? It's the first aspect of your business that potential customers see, so it should be done as well as possible (i.e. get a professional designer to do it). The presentation of a business will often be a deciding factor in whether people wish to use their services, so it shouldn't be left to an amateur to resolve. It's good that you're trying, but when professionals are saying the outcomes are not working, maybe it's best to heed their comments and hire a designer.

You say you've owned this business for eight years. What is the current logo you use?

 

[Spagolli94]

When you have an amateur logo, you have an amateur business. It's as simple as that. If you think that some of these DIY attempts are good enough for your business, what does that say about how seriously you take your business?

There was one that was actually pretty decent. Makes me wonder why so many people just volunteer to do this for free. My house needs some work done on the chimney. Maybe I should go to a masons' forum and post it. I wonder how many qualified masons will show up at my house an do the job for free???

 

[klymr]

When you have an amateur logo, you have an amateur business. It's as simple as that. If you think that some of these DIY attempts are good enough for your business, what does that say about how seriously you take your business?

There was one that was actually pretty decent. Makes me wonder why so many people just volunteer to do this for free. My house needs some work done on the chimney. Maybe I should go to a masons' forum and post it. I wonder how many qualified masons will show up at my house an do the job for free???

I agree. My professor told us a few weeks ago that when he is doing a logo for a business, he won't accept anything under $2,000, and with that he won't be putting much time or attention into the design. You have countless professional designers giving you some of the best advice in our field, and you've even been given some great ideas to work with, all at NO COST to you. If you don't want to take the advice we have offered free of charge and run with it, that's no longer our problem. I wish you the best of luck in your decision. I'll still be reading and watching the outcome, and perhaps even giving more advice, but only if you take a step back and realize we really want you to succeed.

Designers aren't in the business to watch people fail, at least not myself. That's what separates graphic designers from "fine artists." There is a service aspect to design that isn't included in fine arts. A client comes to us with a problem, and we help solve that problem by pouring out our souls to match the clients needs and wishes. It truly is painful to me to see us offering our words of wisdom and watching you toss them aside. So, I ask, if nothing else, try to adopt these things we have suggested and make your business a success!

 

[Melrose]

Why do threads always turn into this?

He asked for help.

People offered help.

He came up with other ideas anyway, for whatever reason.

Period.

 

[ChicoWeb]

This thread was worthless. Jason came up with the best idea by far. Offer to buy it from him and call it a day.