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I have been using Firefox's built in screen capture tool a lot lately to capture web pages that I find helpful and want to reference in the future. The advantage of doing a screen capture is that I usually get a pixel-perfect redition of the original page, whereas if I try to save things I usually get unreadable results.

And while this solution seems to work well, one issue I have is reading the saved web pages.

When I open up a web page, it is usually a .png or .jpg file.

Once maximized on my screen, I can scroll down ever so slowly by holding down the down arrow key, but I don't know how to fast scroll down, so several pages like you could in a regular document.

I realize that I am looking at an image, but there certainly must be some way to jump farther down the page (image) than what I am experiencing now!

Hope that makes sense, and hope there is a soluton to this annoying problem!
 
I wonder if your experience would increase if you Export as PDF or Print to a PDF file. I know that you can jump to the next page of a PDF file using the Spacebar, and you can jump back a page using Shift+Spacebar. Have you tried exporting webpages as PDF files or printing to a PDF file?
 
I wonder if your experience would increase if you Export as PDF or Print to a PDF file. I know that you can jump to the next page of a PDF file using the Spacebar, and you can jump back a page using Shift+Spacebar. Have you tried exporting webpages as PDF files or printing to a PDF file?

Yes. PDF's look like sh** in 2018 thanks to all of the sh***y Javascript that has taken over the Internet.

Five years ago I always just did File > Save Page As and I had a perfect offline copy of any given webpage.

Now when I do that I often get blank pages or really fubar'ed pages.

Likewise, if I try and PDF a webpage they usualy get screwed up.

This is a combination of poor web design plus a lot of websites have code built to prevent you from saving their web pages - God forbid?!

News websites are the worst.

I hate having an image of a webpage, but at least I don't miss out on how it originally looked.

I just want an easier way to navigate these files and be able to navigate without picking up my hand and having to drag the scroll bar down to where I want to go!
 
Yes. PDF's look like sh** in 2018 thanks to all of the sh***y Javascript that has taken over the Internet.

Five years ago I always just did File > Save Page As and I had a perfect offline copy of any given webpage.

Now when I do that I often get blank pages or really fubar'ed pages.

Likewise, if I try and PDF a webpage they usualy get screwed up.

This is a combination of poor web design plus a lot of websites have code built to prevent you from saving their web pages - God forbid?!

News websites are the worst.

I hate having an image of a webpage, but at least I don't miss out on how it originally looked.

I just want an easier way to navigate these files and be able to navigate without picking up my hand and having to drag the scroll bar down to where I want to go!
Would you be willing to give me a link to a webpage that produces a bad PDF file? I would like to see the issue firsthand, perhaps I can help find a fix for you. I have always saved webpages to PDF files and have never seen a problem - it could be that I've not yet run into a bad webpage.
 
Would you be willing to give me a link to a webpage that produces a bad PDF file? I would like to see the issue firsthand, perhaps I can help find a fix for you. I have always saved webpages to PDF files and have never seen a problem - it could be that I've not yet run into a bad webpage.

Thank you for offering to help on the side issue, but there isn't anything you can do to fix the issue.

That is certain.

As stated, the way web pages are designed has changed for the worse.

And if you haven't encountered this issue, then that says to me you don't save web pages hardly ever.

90% of what I save is either unreadable or looks horrible if you try and save it or PDF it.

Anyways... back on topic...

Is there a way to scroll down faster/farther in an image file than what I see now?
 
Thank you for offering to help on the side issue, but there isn't anything you can do to fix the issue.

That is certain.

As stated, the way web pages are designed has changed for the worse.

And if you haven't encountered this issue, then that says to me you don't save web pages hardly ever.

90% of what I save is either unreadable or looks horrible if you try and save it or PDF it.

Anyways... back on topic...

Is there a way to scroll down faster/farther in an image file than what I see now?
How did you arrive at that conclusion? I save webpages quite often, but I save them as PDF files and they look fine here on my late 2014 base model Mac mini. I was hoping to resolve this issue so that PDF files looked better for you, as they do for me, but you seem unwilling to explore this possible remedy.
 
Thank you for offering to help on the side issue, but there isn't anything you can do to fix the issue.

That is certain.

As stated, the way web pages are designed has changed for the worse.

And if you haven't encountered this issue, then that says to me you don't save web pages hardly ever.

90% of what I save is either unreadable or looks horrible if you try and save it or PDF it.

Anyways... back on topic...

Is there a way to scroll down faster/farther in an image file than what I see now?
So you’re not willing to provide a link?
 
How did you arrive at that conclusion? I save webpages quite often, but I save them as PDF files and they look fine here on my late 2014 base model Mac mini. I was hoping to resolve this issue so that PDF files looked better for you, as they do for me, but you seem unwilling to explore this possible remedy.

And I appreciate your willingness to help.

But it's rather perplexing to question something that occurs in *every* browser I have, on *every* Mac I have, and *every* Windows computer that I own?!

If you want an example, go to the Washington Post, find some article, attempt to save it as an HTML file or PDF it, and I doubt you will get anything close to the original.

(In fairness, if you save it as a Safari archive that does better, but I don't want archives, I want an HTML standalone file, OR an HTML file and folder combo, OR a PDF.)

Either way, why question *my* experience?

I have been saving on average 10-15 web pages a day - from all over the Internet - for the last 15+ years, so I sorta think I know what I am doing and the changes I have experienced!!

The issue is not imagined... ;-)
 
Have you considered using Safari’s reader mode? That gives you a very clear, easy to read page...and it can be printed to paper or pdf.
 
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How does this look for you (see attached file)?

This is a random article from the Washington Post website. I set the view to Reader View, then exported as PDF while in Safari. Notice that you still get working HTML links when exporting to a PDF file.
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And I appreciate your willingness to help.

But it's rather perplexing to question something that occurs in *every* browser I have, on *every* Mac I have, and *every* Windows computer that I own?!

If you want an example, go to the Washington Post, find some article, attempt to save it as an HTML file or PDF it, and I doubt you will get anything close to the original.

(In fairness, if you save it as a Safari archive that does better, but I don't want archives, I want an HTML standalone file, OR an HTML file and folder combo, OR a PDF.)

Either way, why question *my* experience?

I have been saving on average 10-15 web pages a day - from all over the Internet - for the last 15+ years, so I sorta think I know what I am doing and the changes I have experienced!!

The issue is not imagined... ;-)
Oh, I am not doubting your issue at all. I was just trying to find a way to get the same result - a readable document containing your desired content - with minimal issue. I do apologize if it appeared that I was doubting your issue.
[doublepost=1546022443][/doublepost]I do feel, though, that Washington Post needs to tweak their @media_print CSS layout.
 

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How does this look for you (see attached file)?

This is a random article from the Washington Post website. I set the view to Reader View, then exported as PDF while in Safari. Notice that you still get working HTML links when exporting to a PDF file.
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Oh, I am not doubting your issue at all. I was just trying to find a way to get the same result - a readable document containing your desired content - with minimal issue. I do apologize if it appeared that I was doubting your issue.
[doublepost=1546022443][/doublepost]I do feel, though, that Washington Post needs to tweak their @media_print CSS layout.

It looks like crap - just as I said it would!

Attached are three screenshots that I did in Firefox.

These look like the original web pages, and that is what I want.

But debating what I already know is not what this thread about.

Does anyone know of a way to more quickly get to the top/bottom of an image file as described in my OP?
 

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It looks like crap - just as I said it would!

Attached are three screenshots that I did in Firefox.

These look like the original web pages, and that is what I want.

But debating what I already know is not what this thread about.

Does anyone know of a way to more quickly get to the top/bottom of an image file as described in my OP?
Clearly your definition of "crap" differs highly from mine. My PDF of the Oklahoma sports article contains only the article itself, no "crap". Your copy wastes the right 1/3 of the page with content unrelated to the article (i.e. "crap"). The file size of your copy is also higher, thus your articles are likely to waste disk space with "crap". Opinions really do vary, eh?
 
Clearly your definition of "crap" differs highly from mine. My PDF of the Oklahoma sports article contains only the article itself, no "crap". Your copy wastes the right 1/3 of the page with content unrelated to the article (i.e. "crap"). The file size of your copy is also higher, thus your articles are likely to waste disk space with "crap". Opinions really do vary, eh?

Why are you arguing with me about what *I* want/need?

Next you are going to tell me that my favorite food or music isn't the right kind...

FWIW, I want an exact copy of things because I use it as reference material for everthing from research papers to ideas for web design, so YES, all of the other stuff on the page does matter to me!

But then again, that is not what this thread is about...
 
It looks like crap - just as I said it would!

Attached are three screenshots that I did in Firefox.

These look like the original web pages, and that is what I want.

But debating what I already know is not what this thread about.

Does anyone know of a way to more quickly get to the top/bottom of an image file as described in my OP?

Can you explain what "It looks like crap" actually means to you?
That linked pdf looks sharp to me, and at full screen, the one picture in that page is quite sharp, with good focus. The text in the article has slight anti-aliasing, but still pretty sharp, and is completely readable -- but, it's still a saved copy of the reader view. Some folks don't care for the reader view option, but that copy seems OK, no real issues - plus the links work!
I downloaded a couple of your web screen shots.
They open up a bit blurry, for me. I guess you just need the text in the articles? (And, I also have the other disadvantage of a png file - links can't be used from that file...)

Oh, scrolling up and down your file works just fine. I'm using a mouse for that. There's no lag for me in normal scrolling. I have "Home" and "End" keys on my keyboard, and those take me immediately to the top or bottom, respectively, on your PNG file when I have it open in a browser such as Firefox. Maybe your Firefox has a setting that inhibits scrolling within images (I'm just trying to get a grasp on the problem as you describe it (?) )
 
So, ignoring the "crap" aspect...just convert your image to a pdf. Then you can scroll up and down at will.
 
Can you explain what "It looks like crap" actually means to you?

That linked pdf looks sharp to me, and at full screen, the one picture in that page is quite sharp, with good focus. The text in the article has slight anti-aliasing, but still pretty sharp, and is completely readable -- but, it's still a saved copy of the reader view. Some folks don't care for the reader view option, but that copy seems OK, no real issues - plus the links work!

Just like you take a photograph to capture a moment in time, I have the same need/want for web pages.

If you took a picture of your daughter accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, would it be enough that the photo captured her smiling with no context of the medal? Or how about the final photo of what appears to be a medal, but her not in the frame?

Well, I feel the same way about what I am trying to capture for *my* needs. (And as you can see, it gets on my nerves when I have to justify what I want...)

If my goal is to learn a new web design technique, and I feel inspired by today's cover of the Washington Post, then how is having all of the text from the headlines going to help me out?

Or in that Oklahoma article, how does that help me out when it chops off all of the additional articles in the right margin that I may have also been interested in?


They open up a bit blurry, for me. I guess you just need the text in the articles? (And, I also have the other disadvantage of a png file - links can't be used from that file...)

No, I need EVERYTHING from the original webpage AS-IS.

I want the page layout, text, pictures, graphics, etc to be EXACTLY as the original.

For the past 20 years that required a File > Save Page As in any web browser and you were golden.

Then all of the wannabe web designers of the world forgot how to code web pages, and made pages Javascript only, and you have the problem I now face.

Websites like the Washington Post, also go out of their way to keep *paying* customers from me from saving articles - for my own later use - via technology. (Often I save a page, open it up to make sure it looks okay, then go back to it a ween later and get a blank page?! And unless you edit the code and strip out the Javascipt that is all you will see - nothing?!)

I have a program I wrote which does a decent job saving web pages (text, photos, and all), but usually the page layout gets f***ed up still, so I take a screenshot so I have a "pixel perfect" copy of things as well.

Of course, it is a pain in the ass to read articles/web pages from a .png/.jog file as far as navigation goes. THUS the question in my OP!

In summary, if this problem had a simple solution we wouldn't be talking.

And pardon me, @revmacian for getting pissy, but nothing torques me more when people walk into a complex situation and start implying that I don't understand the problem, and that the solution is simple.

(I'm sure that is NOT what he intended, but it hit a nerve with me.)

If there is one thing that is constant, it is how humans F*** UP the world in which we live. From the gov't to the economy to the climate, humans break everything. And now people like me have no easy way to save web articles for later consumption in their original format and on their own computers, and that is so ANTI-Internet it isn't funny, but whatever?!


Oh, scrolling up and down your file works just fine. I'm using a mouse for that.

No, it DOESN'T work just fine, because I am on a laptop and the minute I have to take me figrs off of my keyboard to do something, then it is an inconvenience.

That and the trackpad on this old Mac is about dead, and trying to click on the vertical scroll bar, and navigate forward ne page is a real PITA when I am reading a 50 "page" document!!


There's no lag for me in normal scrolling. I have "Home" and "End" keys on my keyboard, and those take me immediately to the top or bottom, respectively, on your PNG file when I have it open in a browser such as Firefox. Maybe your Firefox has a setting that inhibits scrolling within images (I'm just trying to get a grasp on the problem as you describe it (?) )

If I hold down the Down-Arrow, the article s-l-o-w-l-y scrolls down. What I want is something equivalent to "Page Down" so it make a larger jump. Is there no keyboard shortcut for that?? (Obviously that is a non-issue on a regualr webpage or in a PDF, but alas, I can't have WYSIWYG + scrollable text all in one document from over a year of trying to fix this issue!!
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So, ignoring the "crap" aspect...just convert your image to a pdf. Then you can scroll up and down at will.

Most of the articles I save look more like magazine articles than newspaper articles.

The point?

If you strip out the photos and the page layout, you have just lost over 50% of the content of the article.

For instance, how could anyone understand an article about Syria or Russia or China if you had never been there, and all you had was text?

Also, how can you understand an indepth analysis on the Stock Market or cryptocurrencies or genetic engineering without all of the graphics and charts and illustartions? You can't!

So I usually choose to read the .png version of articles so I get 100% of the info.

And all I am asking for is a slightly easier way to scroll through the document without needing to use my stuck Trackpad or buy a mouse and have to lift my right hand to navigate when I want to just use keystrokes...
[doublepost=1546029570][/doublepost]@chbig,

I misread what you said... Converting the .png to a .pdf is a nice idea, but doesn't work in application.

You try zooming in on a 20 page article that was saved as a .jpg and see how it looks?!
 
I tried your "technology.jpg" doc again, in Firefox.
Pressing the space bar takes me a page down each time I press space.
Does that not work for you? (Space to page down, and shift-space for page up)

I respect the idea that you want to view web documents on your own schedule, and that you might want to do that without any internet connection, just to view some articles that you need.
And, that would be something that I should start doing. I just have a large collection of bookmarks that (usually) do a good job of taking me to the same web page (and helps when there has been edits to a page that I might find important. Just another method to get there, eh?
 
OP wrote:
"No, I need EVERYTHING from the original webpage AS-IS."

That isn't going to work with some of the pages you posted above in reply 11.

That's because those pages seem to be "index pages" (like the "Technology" page), with content that is designed to change from day-to-day.

If you want to capture it "as is", seems to me you're going to have to "take a screenshot" of the page or save it into some "unchangeable" format -- such as a pdf file.

OP also wrote:
"For the past 20 years that required a File > Save Page As in any web browser and you were golden.
Then all of the wannabe web designers of the world forgot how to code web pages, and made pages Javascript only, and you have the problem I now face."


You can't fix that.
That's the way things are today. You're not gonna change it.
You've got to work around it as best you can.

What happens if you try opening the page in Safari and then save it as a "web archive"?
You can also use iCab to do this as well.
I would try BOTH of Safari and iCab, to see if that produces usable results.
 
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I tried your "technology.jpg" doc again, in Firefox.
Pressing the space bar takes me a page down each time I press space.
Does that not work for you? (Space to page down, and shift-space for page up)

After I read the original article/web page, I have a php script that I run which scrapes the page and saves it as an HTML file. (Sometimes it works well, but often it just saves the text, and sometimes it won't work at all if a page is mostly Javascript.)

Then I also do a screenshot using Firefox's built in feature. This usually saves the page/screenshot as a .png, but sometimes as a .jpg.

When I go back to view the .png/.jpg file, I go to Finder, double-click on the image file, and it launches in Preview. From there I have to drag the window to fille up my laptop screen, and then I have to zoom in using Ctrl+0. Then I have to use my sketchy tradpad and scroll the image up tot he top of the article, because the screenshot image always seems to open up in the middle of the image, which might be 5 pages down the article

Can you see why all of this is a horrible waste of time? (Think about how much time I waste doing this if I have 20-30 articles to read?!)

10-15 years ago I would do File > Save Page As and I would have 30 WYSIWYG .html files that I could not only easily open and read with the original layout, but I could easily copy and paste text.

Back to your questions...

I'm not sure why you are opening the image file in Firefox? I am opening the images using macOS's default application for images - Preview.

If I hit the space bar in Preview, nothing happens.

If I open the image in Forefox, even when I zoom in to a maximum level, it is too small to read.

Not sure what the space bar does snce I can't read things.



I respect the idea that you want to view web documents on your own schedule, and that you might want to do that without any internet connection, just to view some articles that you need.

No, that isn't my use-case. if I just wanted to red things later, I would use something like Pocket.

What I want - and am entitled to - is a WYSIWYG original local copy so I have it for reference and future use.

If I save a web page or news article today, then regardless of happens to that original document, I will always have my copy.

Imagine how cool it would be to watch an original broadcast - including TV comemrcials and weather updates - of Star Trek in the 1970s. Or how neat it would be if you had a recording of a broadcast of some memorable sports event back from the 1960s. Well, by saving a copy of web content that I like/need, I too am preserving history.

In more practical terms, if I want to go an look at a web page to get some inspiration or ideas on how to design a cool web page, or I want to go back and read a news article - with all its images, graphics, side notes, related articles - because I am working on a research paper, then I have an exact copy of the item that originally educated/informed/inspired me! (If I refer to some drival like Revmacian posted, then I don't have sh** in my mind?!)



And, that would be something that I should start doing. I just have a large collection of bookmarks that (usually) do a good job of taking me to the same web page (and helps when there has been edits to a page that I might find important. Just another method to get there, eh?

I bookmark things, but things disappear from the web all of the time - especally news!

There is a music website that I have been going to for reference for the last 10+ years. Unfortunately, starting a few weeks ago, it went offline. And now all of that knowledge is probably gone forever. And it is no longer on archive.org either! Maybe the owner died or just decided he/she was tired of sharing??

Either way, all that beautiful knowledge is lost! :-(


It's a shame that so many people have such a superficial view and relationship with all of the of news/articles/content/information on the Internet.

Just re-reading the questions that @revmacian posed, and his "solution" to my dilemma shows that we are in completely different worlds. (Apparently information to him is like flipping through a fashion magazne at the doctor's office, but to me, information is like a child where you can never spend too much time with it or have too many pictures/recording of the child's life.)

The Internet (and world) are vast places with so many goodies out there, y'all should spend more time checking it ut (and taking some snapshots) so when it goes away you'll still have a way to go back and "remember the good times"... ;)
 
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Back to your questions...

I'm not sure why you are opening the image file in Firefox? I am opening the images using macOS's default application for images - Preview.

If I hit the space bar in Preview, nothing happens.

If I open the image in Forefox, even when I zoom in to a maximum level, it is too small to read.

Not sure what the space bar does snce I can't read things.
I think you are making this too hard :D Yes, Preview doesn't give that spacebar-scroll, but web browsers do that naturally.
I open the technology.jpg in another browser, because you got it from a browser. Seems logical (to me, anyway)
I chose Firefox, because that's what you mentioned. But, I tried 5 or 6 other browsers, and most will do this. Firefox does.
You don't have to do a zoom from the menu. Here's what I did:
Open the .jpg in Firefox.
Move the cursor onto the image. The cursor will change to a (+). Click on the image. It zooms to the width of the browser window (more or less) and is completely readable. If the page is already scrolled down, hold shift, and then hold the space bar. it will scroll to the top of the page. Read, and press space when you want to page down. I'm not sure how that can be easier.
I also tried it in iCab (an interesting browser that has versions you can download to use back to System 7.5, should you need to do that, and continues to update, including up to the current Mojave.) iCab opens your image, defaulting to fill the screen width. No zoom menu needed on images of a web page.
Safari works with your image much the same as Firefox, also tried a few others, such as Chrome, Omniweb, Opera, and Roccat.
All that I tried was aimed toward dealing with your images, and hopefully making it simple. I guess I like using what works, and I offer that, just as my opinion.
 
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OP wrote:
"No, I need EVERYTHING from the original webpage AS-IS."

That isn't going to work with some of the pages you posted above in reply 11.

That's because those pages seem to be "index pages" (like the "Technology" page), with content that is designed to change from day-to-day.

I uploaded that more to show a page with a complex web design/layout for which Revmacian's "Kindle" solution wouldn't cut it.

However, back when I could successfully save web pages as a .html file and everything got saved, actually, yes, I would have been able to capture things at that very moment.

(To be clear, if a web page is created using W3C standards, and is light on Javascript, then I can still save web pages and get what I always had. usually on smaller websites, this still applies. But most of the alrger media outlets use so much Javascript that you rarely can save web pages with anyd ecent results.)


If you want to capture it "as is", seems to me you're going to have to "take a screenshot" of the page or save it into some "unchangeable" format -- such as a pdf file.

Similar to above, in the past, I could save webpages as a PDF and I had a nearly identical copy of the original. But, again, the way that web pages are designed, and the way that the PDF app works, you rarely get WYSIWYG.

(When I was a Windows person in the 90's/early 2000's, and I had snagged a copy of Adobe Professional, in a few clicks, I could PDF a web page and had the best of both worlds - I had selected text; easy page navigation and searching; and nearly pixel-perfect image/page layout capture. I sure miss those days!)


OP also wrote:
"For the past 20 years that required a File > Save Page As in any web browser and you were golden.
Then all of the wannabe web designers of the world forgot how to code web pages, and made pages Javascript only, and you have the problem I now face."

You can't fix that.
That's the way things are today. You're not gonna change it.
You've got to work around it as best you can.

Right, and I have a decent workaround to these new problems, but it isn't quite where I want it to be yet...

As stated in my OP, life would be even a little more easy if I could find a better way to navigate in these screenshot images I am taking of web pages.

Since no one has jumped in with a simple keystroke command, I guess there isn't one?



What happens if you try opening the page in Safari and then save it as a "web archive"?
You can also use iCab to do this as well.
I would try BOTH of Safari and iCab, to see if that produces usable results.

Sarfari archive seems to produce a seemingly identical copy, but I haven't relied on it as a long-term solution for a few reasons...

1.) I am skeptical that I am actually saving all of those files and fodlers onto my Mac for good. (My suspcion is that feature is secretly more like Pocket, but I don't know for sure either way?!)

2.) It only works if I have Safari, so when I am reading something on my Windows laptop - I would have to remember to do it when I am back home on my Mac. (Kind of a drag at best.)

3.) I don't trust Safari from a privacy and security standpoint. And I think Firefox is the best browser for privacy and security nuts like me.

If that is an incorrect opinion about Safari, please feel free to educate me.

4.) All of the privacy and security add-ons that I use in Firefox (e.g. NoScript, uMatrix, Privacy Badger, uBlock, DecentralEyes, Adblock Plus, etc.)


I am open to suggestions to trying different tools and approaches to get the end result I seek.

Just needing A LOT more than Revmacian offered! :D
 
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As stated in my OP, life would be even a little more easy if I could find a better way to navigate in these screenshot images I am taking of web pages.

Since no one has jumped in with a simple keystroke command, I guess there isn't one?

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I am open to suggestions to trying different tools and approaches to get the end result I seek.

... :D
Guess my name is now "no one", eh?
Ah, well, I did suggest using a web browser to view your images, which does give you a simple keystroke command (press the space to page down.), which works with most browsers.
 
There are a number of applications specifically designed to download a page, a part of a site, or an entire site for offline viewing.

The only one I've used is called HTTrack. It is ancient, though, I'm sure there are better. I used it many, many years ago for a trip to Brazil, where I thought I might not have WiFi. I made local copies of a slew of travel guides onto my Macbook.

What will likely trip it up is any required interaction with a backend API, etc. But should be fine with Javascript, as it downloads everything referenced from the page.
 
I think you are making this too hard :D Yes, Preview doesn't give that spacebar-scroll, but web browsers do that naturally.

I open the technology.jpg in another browser, because you got it from a browser. Seems logical (to me, anyway)

Okay, that is a new approach that I have never heard of before?!


I chose Firefox, because that's what you mentioned. But, I tried 5 or 6 other browsers, and most will do this. Firefox does.

You don't have to do a zoom from the menu. Here's what I did:
Open the .jpg in Firefox.
Move the cursor onto the image. The cursor will change to a (+). Click on the image. It zooms to the width of the browser window (more or less) and is completely readable. If the page is already scrolled down, hold shift, and then hold the space bar. it will scroll to the top of the page. Read, and press space when you want to page down. I'm not sure how that can be easier.

I tried that and have to admit that is pretty nifty!! :apple:

It's still a pain having to choose Open As, then Firefox, then having to maximize the window, then scrolling up to the top, but after I do all of that, clearly your way is an improvement over having to use the scroll bar to move in a (picture) article, so thank you!!



I also tried it in iCab (an interesting browser that has versions you can download to use back to System 7.5, should you need to do that, and continues to update, including up to the current Mojave.) iCab opens your image, defaulting to fill the screen width. No zoom menu needed on images of a web page.

Is that only in Mojave?


Safari works with your image much the same as Firefox, also tried a few others, such as Chrome, Omniweb, Opera, and Roccat.

All that I tried was aimed toward dealing with your images, and hopefully making it simple. I guess I like using what works, and I offer that, just as my opinion.

Thank you for teaching me a new trick!! :)


When I go into Finder, and select an (image) article, is there a way from my keyboard to choose File > Open As ??
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Guess my name is now "no one", eh?
Ah, well, I did suggest using a web browser to view your images, which does give you a simple keystroke command (press the space to page down.), which works with most browsers.

I thanked you above, just getting back to this thread and your neat suggestion... ;)
 
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