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Phone Junky

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Just updated my iPhone SE to iOS 10 and with raise to wake, you still have to press the home button to unlock. I assumed you would just have to place your finger on touch ID to unlock. So much for saving on home button presses...
 

C DM

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If the screen is already on you just place your finger on the home button to unlock (with that setting enabled), if the screen is not on, you have to turn it on first, either by pressing the home button or the lock/sleep button or by getting a notification or some other way.
 

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Just updated my iPhone SE to iOS 10 and with raise to wake, you still have to press the home button to unlock. I assumed you would just have to place your finger on touch ID to unlock. So much for saving on home button presses...
Have you turned on "Rest Finger to Open" in Settings?
 

Phone Junky

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Not on my SE
If the screen is already on you just place your finger on the home button to unlock (with that setting enabled), if the screen is not on, you have to turn it on first, either by pressing the home button or the lock/sleep button or by getting a notification or some other way.
Not on my SE. I pick up the phone and the screen comes on and it says "Press home to unlock". Won't unlock unless home button is pressed.
 

C DM

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Not on my SE

Not on my SE. I pick up the phone and the screen comes on and it says "Press home to unlock". Won't unlock unless home button is pressed.
And you have that "rest finger to open" accessibility setting enabled mentioned earlier in the thread?
 

Paddle1

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No actually the new default is better, and I'm disappointed in Apple for making such a poor concession by adding this toggle.

People like you will never try anything new.
If you don't care about the lockscreen / have a phone with Touch ID 1.0 I don't see how the new default is better. I think options are good in this case.
 
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C DM

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No actually the new default is better, and I'm disappointed in Apple for making such a poor concession by adding this toggle.

People like you will never try anything new.
It's an option that can be enabled or disabled, nothing wrong with letting people choose what is better for them.
 

Phone Junky

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No actually the new default is better, and I'm disappointed in Apple for making such a poor concession by adding this toggle.

People like you will never try anything new.
Enlighten me as to what exactly I am suppose to be trying? Honest question.
 
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Richardgm

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By the looks of all the people complaining Apple should have probably made "rest finger" the default.
 

ghsDUDE

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No actually the new default is better, and I'm disappointed in Apple for making such a poor concession by adding this toggle.

People like you will never try anything new.
Why is the new default better? There isn't one single benefit to pushing the home button.

For example - if I push the home button with the screen off/on it unlocks the phone (with either option selected).

If I raise the phone I have access to the home screen...if I rest my finger on the home button or press on it the phone unlocks (with touch enabled).

If I raise the phone I have access to the home screen...if I rest my finger on the home button (nothing happens by default) so instead I have to press on it for the phone to unlock.

Can you list the reason the default is an advantage? It seems to add a useless step.
 

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who cares either way? there's a choice; make one, and get on with it. :D really, how difficult is it to press the home button versus touching it? anyway, took me 2 seconds to adapt to this...
 
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freeskier93

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Why is the new default better? There isn't one single benefit to pushing the home button.

For example - if I push the home button with the screen off/on it unlocks the phone (with either option selected).

If I raise the phone I have access to the home screen...if I rest my finger on the home button or press on it the phone unlocks (with touch enabled).

If I raise the phone I have access to the home screen...if I rest my finger on the home button (nothing happens by default) so instead I have to press on it for the phone to unlock.

Can you list the reason the default is an advantage? It seems to add a useless step.

The entire point of raise to wake is to see notifications on the lock screen. With rich notifications there needed to be a way to unlock the screen to interact with those notifications.

Even if you just want to go straight to the springboard the series of events is exactly the same. Press the home button and leave your finger on for a fraction of a second and it will go to the springboard, regardless if the screen has turned on from raise to wake or is off sitting on the table. It's perceived as an extra step because the screen is turning on, but close your eyes and you'd never know the difference.
 
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spades1412

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Why is the new default better? There isn't one single benefit to pushing the home button.

For example - if I push the home button with the screen off/on it unlocks the phone (with either option selected).

If I raise the phone I have access to the home screen...if I rest my finger on the home button or press on it the phone unlocks (with touch enabled).

If I raise the phone I have access to the home screen...if I rest my finger on the home button (nothing happens by default) so instead I have to press on it for the phone to unlock.

Can you list the reason the default is an advantage? It seems to add a useless step.

The only advantage I see with the default setting is when you swipe right to access the widget screen, you can rest your finger to unlock and the widgets will unlock sensitive data in the widgets. An example is the Activity or Find my Friends widgets will display a message to "Unlock to view". Resting your finger unlocks and displays the data. Then pressing the home button will take you into the homescreen.
 

ghsDUDE

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The entire point of raise to wake is to see notifications on the lock screen. With rich notifications there needed to be a way to unlock the screen to interact with those notifications.

How exactly is it a useless step? Even if you just want to go straight to the springboard the series of events is exactly the same. Press the home button and leave your finger on for a fraction of a second and it will go to the springboard, regardless if the screen has turned on from raise to wake or is off sitting on the table. You only perceive it as useless step because the screen is already on. Close your eyes and you'd never know the difference.

Why this has been such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me.
Under Apple's new default it take three steps (vs two) to get into your phone now.

I raise to wake + rest finger on home button and I'm in my phone (with touch enabled).

I raise to wake + rest finger on home button + press the home button and I'm in my iPhone (with touch turned off).
 

freeskier93

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Under Apple's new default it take three steps (vs two) to get into your phone now.

I raise to wake + rest finger on home button and I'm in my phone (with touch enabled).

I raise to wake + rest finger on home button + press the home button and I'm in my iPhone (with touch turned off).

It's only three steps because you are making it three steps. Close your eyes, lift your phone and press the home button just as you would before this feature change in iOS 10. Open your eyes and you'll be at the springboard.

If you don't want to see notifications you don't have to raise and wait for the screen to turn on, you don't have to rest your finger on the home button and wait for it to unlock, then press the home button to get to the springboard board. Just pick your phone up and press the home button, doesn't matter if the screen is off or has already turned on because of raise to wake, if you press the home button and leave your finger on for that fraction of a second it will go to the springboard.
 
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ghsDUDE

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It's only three steps because you are making it three steps. Close your eyes, lift your phone and press the home button just as you would before this feature change in iOS 10. Open your eyes and you'll be at the springboard.

If you don't want to see notifications you don't have to raise and wait for the screen to turn on, you don't have to rest your finger on the home button and wait for it to unlock, then press the home button to get to the springboard board. Just pick your phone up and press the home button, doesn't matter if the screen is off or has already turned on because of raise to wake, if you press the home button and leave your finger on for that fraction of a second it will go to the springboard.
Great explanation! I think the reason I'm fighting it is I appreciate Raise to Wake to actually view the Locked Screen which basically "erases" a step in my eyes.

But by closing my eyes you're absolutely right.
 

freeskier93

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Great explanation! I think the reason I'm fighting it is I appreciate Raise to Wake to actually view the Locked Screen which basically "erases" a step in my eyes.

But by closing my eyes you're absolutely right.

Glad I could help. And I removed the snark from my original post, I can see how this might hang people up. :)
 
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