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It is still my number 1 choice. But I could still see myself buying the apple monitor after the eizo.
Of course. It will be useful also to see the results of Apple's calibration and the maintenance of it.
Congrats to those belong to highest segment of industry. You will be thrilled to work with a new Mac Pro.
I was hoping for a nice prosumer level headless desktop with the starting price tag of at most $4,000 with HDD expansion possibility. I wasn't able to afford 5.1 or previous pros, and I guess I will never be.
The one thing assuring though is that my custom built pc desktop with cpu oced to 4.9ghz will atleast destroy the performance of a baseline mac pro.
I was hoping for a nice prosumer level headless desktop with the starting price tag of at most $4,000 with HDD expansion possibility. I wasn't able to afford 5.1 or previous pros, and I guess I will never be.
The one thing assuring though is that my custom built pc desktop with cpu oced to 4.9ghz will atleast destroy the performance of a baseline mac pro.
I'm going to dive in.
The starting price is higher than any of us would like. Fine.
I've owned two Mac Pros. Both OG cheese graters.
The last was a 2010 - over the course of its life:
- 3 graphics cards
- Memory maxed
- DAS SAS arrays expanding storage out to 60+ TB
- PCIe RAID SSD Boot
- PCIe Video I/O
If you told me I could have all those possibilities for what amounts to $750/year for the platform on which those possibilities were built, I'd say where do I sign.
The 2010 mac pro, by the way, sold for ~$500 after 8 years in service.
Having said that, TB3 is a pretty solid option for all sorts of decent prosumer expansion... the choices are endless these days. I can attach the same storage arrays to a MacBook pro now... crazy times!
The starting price is higher than any of us would like. Fine.
I've owned two Mac Pros. Both OG cheese graters.
The last was a 2010 - over the course of its life:
- 3 graphics cards
- Memory maxed
- DAS SAS arrays expanding storage out to 60+ TB
- PCIe RAID SSD Boot
- PCIe Video I/O
If you told me I could have all those possibilities for what amounts to $750/year for the platform on which those possibilities were built, I'd say where do I sign.
The 2010 mac pro, by the way, sold for ~$500 after 8 years in service.
Having said that, TB3 is a pretty solid option for all sorts of decent prosumer expansion... the choices are endless these days. I can attach the same storage arrays to a MacBook pro now... crazy times!
My personal reaction:
Apple truly surpassed my expectations, but that wasn't that difficult to be honest.
Will I buy it?
I have to admit I tend to, even as the machine is truly overpowered for me. But this is the age old problem of Apple not offering a similar modular(!!!) device without monitor, still decent but not as extreme as the new MP. But I guess we will never see that "xMac", so for me, an overpowered machine is still better than an underpowered/unsuitable one.
One thing that still holds me back though is the GPU situation. I really dontlike Apple going AMD only, and as the "MPX" module seems to be quite proprietary, can I still use a "normal" GPU even from AMD? Just in case Apple "forgets" to offer an upgrade later on ... Because if I really buy this, it has to serve me quite some time, i.e. I will need to upgrade my GPU about two times in its lifespan. So thats the biggest factor holding be back - also long time support in general, and still a lack of confidence that Apple does not change their minds later again regarding to the Mac Pro.
Other than that .... well ... NVIDIA? Hmmpf.
Still, I have to admit I slowly begin to like this machine! Looking forward to the first hand on reviews. Not looking forward to final pricing ... hope it is not too expensive to upgrade CPU and GPU a bit, as the entry config is a joke imho. RAM and SSD is not a problem imho, heck they even are already offering 3rd party modules for my 3,5" cold storage spinners as well. So my basic needs & wishes of mine are almost (see NVIDIA) covered, or even "over-covered".
Could be worse, right?
Apple truly surpassed my expectations, but that wasn't that difficult to be honest.
Will I buy it?
I have to admit I tend to, even as the machine is truly overpowered for me. But this is the age old problem of Apple not offering a similar modular(!!!) device without monitor, still decent but not as extreme as the new MP. But I guess we will never see that "xMac", so for me, an overpowered machine is still better than an underpowered/unsuitable one.
One thing that still holds me back though is the GPU situation. I really dontlike Apple going AMD only, and as the "MPX" module seems to be quite proprietary, can I still use a "normal" GPU even from AMD? Just in case Apple "forgets" to offer an upgrade later on ... Because if I really buy this, it has to serve me quite some time, i.e. I will need to upgrade my GPU about two times in its lifespan. So thats the biggest factor holding be back - also long time support in general, and still a lack of confidence that Apple does not change their minds later again regarding to the Mac Pro.
Other than that .... well ... NVIDIA? Hmmpf.
Still, I have to admit I slowly begin to like this machine! Looking forward to the first hand on reviews. Not looking forward to final pricing ... hope it is not too expensive to upgrade CPU and GPU a bit, as the entry config is a joke imho. RAM and SSD is not a problem imho, heck they even are already offering 3rd party modules for my 3,5" cold storage spinners as well. So my basic needs & wishes of mine are almost (see NVIDIA) covered, or even "over-covered".
Could be worse, right?
So I've been doing some research...and I can EASILY surpass $200,000+ for Dell Precision workstations. Their machine was dramatically more impressive with 2TB RAM, Dual XEON's, Quad Graphics, etc. It's obvious to see that for Pro's, the 2013 model could never be competitive.
I suppose now that Apple is in the game, it'll be interesting.
I was also hoping for a prosumer level machine. The '13 Mac Pro was capable of this, as I could get one for $3,000. I was hopeful we'd see a similar machine, with a reasonably (<$3,000) priced monitor. Now, the monitor alone costs more than an entire iMac Pro or my budget for an entire system.
I suppose now that Apple is in the game, it'll be interesting.
I was also hoping for a prosumer level machine. The '13 Mac Pro was capable of this, as I could get one for $3,000. I was hopeful we'd see a similar machine, with a reasonably (<$3,000) priced monitor. Now, the monitor alone costs more than an entire iMac Pro or my budget for an entire system.
I already have a reactions thread (with an ongoing poll) here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/poll-the-new-cheese-grater-mac-pro-ncmp-hot-or-not.2183836/
Lot of good info there
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/poll-the-new-cheese-grater-mac-pro-ncmp-hot-or-not.2183836/
Lot of good info there