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Elit3

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Here is a good article explaining why a professional iPhone user switched to the Nexus 4.

http://gizmodo.com/5973073/an-iphone-lovers-confession-i-switched-to-the-nexus-4-completely

He has a few good points in there about why everyone should "switch". But a lot of iOS users have hundreds of apps, hundreds of songs (even though you can just take them out of the iTunes folder, love iOS, love Apple, the premium build of it, the eco-system of a Mac, iPod iPhone and iTV etc, and they like the simplicity, android can be simplistic but you have to get a phone like the SGS3 which in that article he says just isn't good enough, and I agree. The stock android experience to a iOS user can offer A LOT of confusion and annoyance.
And they simply have CUSTOMER LOYALTY.
 

Zwhaler

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Jun 10, 2006
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Customer loyalty for years to Apple is actually what made many users switch like myself ... I stayed with iPhone so long and iOS kind of stagnated to a point that the competition caught up and surpassed IMO.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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This one's better, because it comes from a die hard iOS fan:

Relevant: http://phandroid.com/2013/01/02/for...asaki-talks-more-android-in-latest-interview/

Former Apple Evangelist Guy Kawasaki talks more Android in latest interview




A few weeks back, ReadWrite interviewed Guy Kawasaki — author, publisher, entrepreneur, and most importantly: former Apple evangelist. After years of promoting Apple’s products (you may have seen him in the documentary “Cult of Mac”) turns out Mr. Kawasaki switched over to “team Android,” currently rocking a shiny new Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (before that an S3, and that, a Razr Maxx). Kawasaki’s new motto? “Real men use Android.” In the RW interview Guy went on to say:

“People are kind of amazed, but I don’t use any iOS products, none at all. I fell in love with Android on the smartphone, and then I got a Nexus 7 and started using Android on the tablet as well. To me the great irony is that Apple’s slogan was `Think Different,’ but today if you think different you’re looking at Android.”

Today, in a piece called “This Is How I Work,” Lifehacker was able to get a quick interview with Guy, further pressing him mostly about his work life and products and services he can’t live without. While he still currently uses a MacBook Air to get work done (I, too, am guilty of this), the gadget he says he can’t possibly live without is his Nexus 7. As it turns out, when Apple released the iPad Mini a few months ago, Guy felt Apple’s “me too” tab didn’t offer anything compelling in light of the N7, asking aloud why anyone would want to switch. Great question.

When asked why he made the switch from iOS to Android, he admits that it was originally due to more interesting hardware. The iPhone’s lack of LTE, NFC and multitasking made Android an easy switch for him (despite sticking with Apple’s desktop OS for his computing needs). Now that Apple has finally caught up to Android in some regard with hardware, Guy says it’s simply Android’s superior software that keeps him from moving astray. His favorite Android features?

-Multiple apps running in multiple windows
-Widgets
-Ability to launch files and choose default apps
-Ability to see all your apps in an alphabetical listing no matter what folder they are in
-Ability to pick your keyboard (I use SmartKey)
 

siiip5

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Nov 13, 2012
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^^^ Now that is a real and worthwhile piece. Didn't know Guy had moved over to Android. :eek:
 

Digital Skunk

macrumors G3
Dec 23, 2006
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In my imagination
This one's better, because it comes from a die hard iOS fan:

Everything in that quote is why I stopped waiting for the Sprint iPhone and switched. It also states the same thing many Mac fans have done, we've switched the mobile side but haven't dumped the Mac.

I am still looking for a compelling Android tablet. His comment s make we want to really consider the Nexus 7, but I may wait out for a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 with all of the features of the Note II.
 

ChrisTX

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Dec 30, 2009
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I used to consider myself a diehard iOS user, but switched when I realized the iPhone 5 wasn't going to be any different than the 4S. I don't dislike iOS but I really love the diversity, and customization of Android. iOS 6 has been the worst iOS upgrade ever.
 

SeanR1

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Jan 4, 2009
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I'm not sure, my father can't navigate it, and he can put a computer together, but it is more complicated apparently.

Wow, my 6 year old navigates my wife's Galaxy Note 1 with no problems. He also has no problems with the iPads. He's not allowed to touch my GS3. :)
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
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The stock android experience to a iOS user can offer A LOT of confusion and annoyance.

What. What. What?

Seriously though, how can it be confusing?

There are enough differences between iOS and Android that switching from one to another can lead to some confusion. As an Android user, I find using an iPhone to be confusing and annoying at times as things that I thought would work one way doesn't. It is simply not obvious what some of those differences are and that transition period can be a bit frustrating.
 

b166er

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Apr 17, 2010
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I really don't think I will ever stop using macs. I love OSX and Windows somehow has not grown up a whole lot in the past 10 years. I love my apple TV as well, and obviously that plays nice with mac computers. Even for tablets I think the iPad is the best, hands down. But as far as phones go, the techie in me had to stray away from the iPhone. I just want my phone to do more and I'm not concerned about tight jeans pockets. Keeping an iPad allows me to retain all of my iOS goodies, meanwhile I've been exploring other phones (while hanging on to my 4S just in case). I am going to pick up a Note 2 next week and see how that suites me. I have an upgrade coming this spring and figured I may use that on a Galaxy S4 depending on when it drops.
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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There are enough differences between iOS and Android that switching from one to another can lead to some confusion. As an Android user, I find using an iPhone to be confusing and annoying at times as things that I thought would work one way doesn't. It is simply not obvious what some of those differences are and that transition period can be a bit frustrating.

I agree I started on android before going to iOS and found some things in iOS to be confusing and unintuitive. For example when I got android I'd use it like a PC so if I wanted to attach a file to an email I'd click the paperclip and select the file. With iOS when I got it you couldn't even attach a picture via the mail app itself, now you can. Attaching only files is nearly impossible and the few (very few) exceptions require you using a third party app. It took me forever to figure out what it was even possible let alone how to do it.

However I find most things pretty simple to figure out. And I find Siri very easy to use and intuitive.
 

The iGentleman

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Jul 13, 2012
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The stock android experience to a iOS user can offer A LOT of confusion and annoyance.

I have to completely disagree with you here. My two year old son has absolutely no problem navigating through his Nexus 7 or through my Nexus 4. He knows how to switch apps using the multitasking button, he knows how to pull up the app drawer and find whatever app he's looking for. If a two year old can handle it, it can't be too complicated.
 

Ubuntu

macrumors 68020
Jul 3, 2005
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I have to completely disagree with you here. My two year old son has absolutely no problem navigating through his Nexus 7 or through my Nexus 4. He knows how to switch apps using the multitasking button, he knows how to pull up the app drawer and find whatever app he's looking for. If a two year old can handle it, it can't be too complicated.

You're missing the point. It's like a Windows user switching to a Mac for example. They have to unlearn some things while learning others at the same time. That said, Android isn't horrendously complicated (since 4.0 especially) but I can understand why a user who is used to iOS's grid-of-apps homescreen can become a bit confused with the home screen/app drawer setup on Android.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
543
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You're missing the point. It's like a Windows user switching to a Mac for example. They have to unlearn some things while learning others at the same time. That said, Android isn't horrendously complicated (since 4.0 especially) but I can understand why a user who is used to iOS's grid-of-apps homescreen can become a bit confused with the home screen/app drawer setup on Android.

No...you're missing the point. Regardless of what a person is used to, it still isn't complicated. They may not be used to it, but that doesn't mean it is complicated...as demonstrated by a two year old being able to operate it.
 

Night Spring

macrumors G5
Jul 17, 2008
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No...you're missing the point. Regardless of what a person is used to, it still isn't complicated. They may not be used to it, but that doesn't mean it is complicated...as demonstrated by a two year old being able to operate it.

What exactly was the two year old doing with the device, though? I assume he wasn't trying to arrange the home screen exactly how he wanted it, or trying to set up a widget to give him weather information, or sync his contacts, calendar and email, or any of the other common everyday usage stuff adults do with their smartphones.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
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What exactly was the two year old doing with the device, though? I assume he wasn't trying to arrange the home screen exactly how he wanted it, or trying to set up a widget to give him weather information, or sync his contacts, calendar and email, or any of the other common everyday usage stuff adults do with their smartphones.

He knows how to add icons from the app drawer to the home screen, how to use the multitasking to switch between Netflix, Youtube, and several different games. The tasks you mentioned aren't complicated either, if a person can read they can do it...
 

Night Spring

macrumors G5
Jul 17, 2008
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He knows how to add icons from the app drawer to the home screen, how to use the multitasking to switch between Netflix, Youtube, and several different games. The tasks you mentioned aren't complicated either, if a person can read they can do it...

And a two year old can't read, can they? :D

I just have an issue with "a two year old can do it" being used as an example of how simple something is. The tasks you mention your two year old doing are the most simple things one can do on a tablet, I'm sure when adult users say a tablet OS is too complicated, they are trying to do something a bit more complex.
 

Cod3rror

macrumors 68000
Apr 18, 2010
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I don't exactly know what Google has done with "Project Butter" in Jelly Bean, but the result is astonishing. In the past, Android felt laggy, sometimes even slow and responses to gestures didn't feel half as immediate as on iOS.

I'd like to know if this is actually true.

Tried Galaxy S III and while it is not jittery, it was far behind the iPhone in touch response times.


For example look at this video at 17:37 and at 17:39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVsnq2-fgoA

The guy scrolls down and then up, and the screen scrolls way after he has flicked his finger.


Also, what keeps me from switching to Android are three things...

1. List bounce-back/rubber banding effect - I love it on iOS and it makes the UI feel so much more responsive and alive. I hope Apple loses this patent and Android implements it.

2. Background audio API - This is implemented in iOS way better than in Android. In Android you're dependent on the developer to code it on his own into his app and after the app has been backgrounded, there is no way to control the audio from it, which brings me to my next point...

3. Centralized audio controls - I want to control the audio from backgrounded apps and I want it to be universal.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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I'd like to know if this is actually true.

Tried Galaxy S III and while it is not jittery, it was far behind the iPhone in touch response times.


For example look at this video at 17:37 and at 17:39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVsnq2-fgoA

The guy scrolls down and then up, and the screen scrolls way after he has flicked his finger.


Also, what keeps me from switching to Android are three things...

1. List bounce-back/rubber banding effect - I love it on iOS and it makes the UI feel so much more responsive and alive. I hope Apple loses this patent and Android implements it.

2. Background audio API - This is implemented in iOS way better than in Android. In Android you're dependent on the developer to code it on his own into his app and after the app has been backgrounded, there is no way to control the audio from it, which brings me to my next point...

3. Centralized audio controls - I want to control the audio from backgrounded apps and I want it to be universal.

IMHO what you are really wanting is that Android does things the same way as iOS.

TBH, I have a iPad Mini and a Nexus 4, I like both ways of controlling audio on the devices, both work equally well just in a different way. As for scrolling, my Nexus is as smooth as my iP5 was, rubber banding, I can take it or leave it.

IMHO, if you are going to compare the two OSs while holding iOS as the beacon of excellence that Android should aspire, you will never switch, try each one in its own merits, you will find them both superb, then decide.
 
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kasakka

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Oct 25, 2008
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I'm also considering moving to Android for my next phone. I'm tired of having to jailbreak to get some features that should be standard (like the faster JS engine in all apps, quick toggles for WLAN, Bluetooth etc in notification bar, ability to pick default apps for things, lack of a central place for files). Now with jailbreaks taking longer and longer to come out, Android seems like a more viable choice.

The only issues I have are:
  • The phones are damn big. Sure, that 5" screen is nice when you're reading something on the device but it's slightly awkward to hold and a bit annoying in the pocket.
  • Most apps, while functionality is good, look like ****. Since there are so many skins, none of them integrate with how other apps look. Even so, the apps are just not the aesthetically pleasing type that is considered standard with most iOS apps (excluding **** like "Perfect" Browser).
 

Cod3rror

macrumors 68000
Apr 18, 2010
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IMHO what you are really wanting is that Android does things the same way as iOS.

TBH, I have a iPad Mini and a Nexus 4, I like both ways of controlling audio on the devices, both work equally well just in a different way. As for scrolling, my Nexus is as smooth as my iP5 was, rubber banding, I can take it or leave it.

IMHO, if you are going to compare the two OSs while holding iOS as the beacon of excellence that Android should aspire, you will never switch, try each one in its own merits, you will find them both superb, then decide.

I know Android does much more than iOS, but those three things are what is holding me from considering an Android device.

I really, really like how iOS does background audio and centralized controls and I use that feature a lot.

Bounce back is nice, but I would concede that, however background audio and centralized controls, no.
 
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