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dmelgar

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Too bad it won't be abandoned since it's a Nexus :D. Not any time soon anyway.

Unlike the nexus one which was abandoned quickly...

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IMHO what you are really wanting is that Android does things the same way as iOS.

TBH, I have a iPad Mini and a Nexus 4, I like both ways of controlling audio on the devices, both work equally well just in a different way. As for scrolling, my Nexus is as smooth as my iP5 was, rubber banding, I can take it or leave it.

IMHO, if you are going to compare the two OSs while holding iOS as the beacon of excellence that Android should aspire, you will never switch, try each one in its own merits, you will find them both superb, then decide.

I have owned them both and left Android. I had three android phones over 3 years. They were not well supported by the vendors. Did not receive fixes nor updates. Much buggier than iOS.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
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I know Android does much more than iOS, but those three things are what is holding me from considering an Android device.

I really, really like how iOS does background audio and centralized controls and I use that feature a lot.

Bounce back is nice, but I would concede that, however background audio and centralized controls, no.

A lot of apps now follow the holo ui guidelines in android. Atleast the highest rated ones do as a lot of people will downrate apps that don't. Also, I actually prefer the overscroll glow over the rubberbanding. It looks nicer and isn't as distacting. Android handles background audio much better than iOS as any app can put controls on not only the lockscreen but in the notification drawer as well. Heck most apps have a widget you can put on one of your homescreens. Notifications are a huge strong point for android and no other OS comes close. The amount of tasks the notification can help you perform quicker than iOS is amazing. The other thing about them thats great is the fact that all apps use it for notifications which is contrary to iOS where only a handful actually use notification center and many still use the annoying popups. There are just a lot of things about android that make tasks faster and more to the point. The other huge thing that once you get you could never live without is a dedicated back button. Its so useful.
 
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Ubuntu

macrumors 68020
Jul 3, 2005
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No...you're missing the point. Regardless of what a person is used to, it still isn't complicated. They may not be used to it, but that doesn't mean it is complicated...as demonstrated by a two year old being able to operate it.

I'm being sincere when I say you're missing the point. This isn't me saying Android's a complicated, difficult-to-use OS. I found my Nexus to be quite straightforward to use but I was often trying to do things the iOS way, which is what made it a bit more complex. I'm simply stating that for users with less technical knowledge this could be even more complicated. Are you getting what I mean here? It's all relative to the individual user, and I'd say the same about an Android user moving to iOS.
 

Elit3

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Sep 17, 2012
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I have to completely disagree with you here. My two year old son has absolutely no problem navigating through his Nexus 7 or through my Nexus 4. He knows how to switch apps using the multitasking button, he knows how to pull up the app drawer and find whatever app he's looking for. If a two year old can handle it, it can't be too complicated.

MAN YOUR TWO YEAR OLD IS AWESOME. But what I was trying to say is that it is a matter of changing OS's, going by that old term "can't teach an old dog new tricks."
6 years of using iOS would most probably stick and make it very difficult to pick up an android device.
 

Dr McKay

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Aug 11, 2010
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6 years of using iOS would most probably stick and make it very difficult to pick up an android device.

I had used iPhones since the 1st one, upgrading to every one (except the 3GS), after having an iPhone 5 for a month I finally bit the bullet and bought a Nexus 4, it was "different" for maybe 3 days. The trick was to approach it with a fresh mind, not try to do everything like you did on your iPhone and get frustrated when things aren't in the same place.
 

Elit3

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Sep 17, 2012
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I had used iPhones since the 1st one, upgrading to every one (except the 3GS), after having an iPhone 5 for a month I finally bit the bullet and bought a Nexus 4, it was "different" for maybe 3 days. The trick was to approach it with a fresh mind, not try to do everything like you did on your iPhone and get frustrated when things aren't in the same place.
Yep, I switched to the GS1, man, that was a bad move, and little did I know the last person had rooted and installed an unstable update. -.- So it was frigging laggy, so I fixed the ROM issue and sold it, for a Nexus S. Man, that was almost as frustating as the jump from iOS to Android, they really overhauled android back then, and still do!

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Wow, my 6 year old navigates my wife's Galaxy Note 1 with no problems. He also has no problems with the iPads. He's not allowed to touch my GS3. :)
HAHAHA Yep, I never understood why he couldn't. Since then he has "seen the light" and switched the HTC ONE, he takes a bit to get used to it, but is quite good with it now. I guess young people are like sponges, soak up everything, plus your son is probably pretty smart. I know I wouldn't have been able to at six, well, they didn't exist. *facepalm to stupid comment*
There are enough differences between iOS and Android that switching from one to another can lead to some confusion. As an Android user, I find using an iPhone to be confusing and annoying at times as things that I thought would work one way doesn't. It is simply not obvious what some of those differences are and that transition period can be a bit frustrating.
^^ Yep, agreed, iOS 7, though apperently copied android, will bring a good thing, as iOS has caught up with android 4.2.2 (seeings Google was lazy and didn't release a bloody new update, and won't go to KLP, and stay on Jelly been), and is now similar in interface in some things, so it will sorta unify it, and make that switch easier.
 

fredaroony

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Aug 1, 2011
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Customer loyalty for years to Apple is actually what made many users switch like myself ... I stayed with iPhone so long and iOS kind of stagnated to a point that the competition caught up and surpassed IMO.

I seriously don't get the idea of customer loyalty...a company makes a product and you give them money to purchase it...period.

I buy whatever suits my needs the most the idea of being loyal to a company is laughable.
 

maxosx

macrumors 68020
Dec 13, 2012
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I have owned them both and left Android. I had three android phones over 3 years. They were not well supported by the vendors. Did not receive fixes nor updates. Much buggier than iOS.

Most top of the line Android phones ship with version 4. 1.x or higher. This version is a great improvement over the older versions. It's just so much better than the current state of IOS for my usage that my iPhone 5 has become my secondary phone.

In this rapidly changing environment Apple has chosen to do some profit taking instead of continuous development. The high sales volume has allowed them to rest on their laurels while Android has continued to advance.

Going forward it's apparent that Apple has some catching up to do. Especially since they've stagnated in both hardware and software. Only time will tell just how serious Apple is.
 

Fanaticalism

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Apr 16, 2013
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When my 3 year old picked up my s4 after using my iPhone 5 and iPad, he was lost for all of oh, 2 minutes. He can now navigate through the phone better than the wife, and I have set gestures to launch certain apps without shortcuts using Nova

Then again, he does play more advanced RPG games.
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
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It's a lot easier to switch from iOS to android then vice versa.

Bunk.

When I switched from my GS2 to iPhone 4S it was far easier than going from iPhone 5 back to Galaxy S4. Mind you, I'm talking about a weeks worth of work for those that are somewhat tech savvy, so it's not like curing cancer either way.

And there are still massive concerns related to restoring across devices after an upgrade, and app data restoring with android that don't exist with iOS.
 

kingalexthe1st

macrumors 6502
Apr 13, 2013
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I'm considering the switch myself. When the iPhone 5 came out it just wasn't enough of an upgrade to convince me to ditch my iPhone 4. The design was great, Jony Ive did his job well. Scott Forstall, on the other hand, sat back and didn't pull his finger out. iOS 7 is a year late; it should have come with the iPhone 5 and, when I saw the promotion for it this year, I thought "but I have all those things on my jailbroken iPhone 4". So no innovation there, just ripping off the hard work that the jailbreakers have put in.

I have also realised just how many little things iOS prevents you from doing. Can't attach a file when I reply to an email? Can only open attachments in specific apps with no connectivity between them? It's tiring, but I've always forgiven Apple because it's 'only a small thing'. How they all add up. So I'm eyeing up an Android device, it's just a matter of what one to go for. I'm glad to read that others have done the switch and have enjoyed it thoroughly!

Alex
 

heutusops

macrumors regular
Aug 6, 2013
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that's the power of android, if all the iphone users gave a shot to android, most of them wont come back.
 

JackieInCo

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Jul 18, 2013
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that's the power of android, if all the iphone users gave a shot to android, most of them wont come back.

And some of us, end up going back. I may consider selling my Nexus 4 to get an iPhone 5 or the next iPhone.

I got bored with my Nexus 4 after six months and have been using my 4S as my main phone. Nothing beats the apps on iOS.
 

heutusops

macrumors regular
Aug 6, 2013
119
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And some of us, end up going back. I may consider selling my Nexus 4 to get an iPhone 5 or the next iPhone.

I got bored with my Nexus 4 after six months and have been using my 4S as my main phone. Nothing beats the apps on iOS.

you serious? maybe you should go back to iphone
 

T5BRICK

macrumors G3
Aug 3, 2006
8,314
2,391
Oregon
What phones have you had? My smartphone history is iPhone 3G, HTC G1, HTC Incredible, HTC Thunderbolt, iPhone 5.

The HTC Thunderbolt was released around the time the iPhone 4 showed up on Verizon. If I recall correctly, it had fairly outdated hardware when it was released, but it did have LTE. The newer devices running 4.2.x are MUCH smoother. In my experience 4.3 brought even more speed improvements.

The other problem I see is that, well, your Android experience was all on HTC devices. The older versions of Sense sucked. Even Sense 5.0, while much lighter weight and less of a resource hog, isn't that great. I ended up flashing Cyanogenmod 10.1 on my HTC One and then moving to the Google Edition ROM when 4.3 was available.
 

Savor

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And some of us, end up going back. I may consider selling my Nexus 4 to get an iPhone 5 or the next iPhone.

I got bored with my Nexus 4 after six months and have been using my 4S as my main phone. Nothing beats the apps on iOS.
Nexus 4's only real advantages is that it is cheap and vanilla Android to get updates faster. Stock Android is starting to be a bit of a bore.

Related
HTC Desire - Nexus One
Samsung Galaxy S - Nexus S
Samsung Galaxy S II - Galaxy Nexus
LG Optimus G - Nexus 4

The Nexus versions tend to have a worse camera or battery than their closest cousins. You get what you pay for. With compromises.

I'm starting to prefer S4 or One over a Nexus phone. The Google Play edition of those phones takes the fun out of what those OEM's original intent were when they build them in the first place. You lose their personal touch. The software/hardware exclusives. Like taking away their special sauce that made them special in the first place.
 

bearda

macrumors 6502a
Dec 2, 2005
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Roanoke, VA
Nexus 4's only real advantages is that it is cheap and vanilla Android to get updates faster. Stock Android is starting to be a bit of a bore.

Related
HTC Desire - Nexus One
Samsung Galaxy S - Nexus S
Samsung Galaxy S II - Galaxy Nexus
LG Optimus G - Nexus 4

The Nexus versions tend to have a worse camera or battery than their closest cousins. You get what you pay for. With compromises.

I'm starting to prefer S4 or One over a Nexus phone. The Google Play edition of those phones takes the fun out of what those OEM's original intent were when they build them in the first place. You lose their personal touch. The software/hardware exclusives. Like taking away their special sauce that made them special in the first place.

I came to a similar conclusion last week and picked up an S4. There are a lot of things I liked about the Nexus 4 (the speed and simplicity of the interface were great), but when it came down to it there's a lot of stuff AOSP misses out on (especially in the Bluetooth department). Although the S4 has a bit of TouchWiz clutter (mainly in the settings) it's able to do everything I felt was missing from the Nexus 4 since I switched from my iPhone 4S. I'm happy with the switch.

I will say that although I was very happy with the Nexus 4 build at first (the weight is nice due to the glass back, and the edges do help with grip) I've come to appreciate the plastic-bodied S4 a lot more in the past week. I don't feel quite as concerned about shattering or scratching the back of the phone, and where the Nexus 4 had a tendency to creak even after tightening up the screws on the bottom the S4 feels like it's well put together.
 
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