Prepare to be stunned then. Vision Pro has gone very poorly for Apple, and Apple does not chase failed products, or throw good money after bad. Content is non-existent, Apps and developer interest are non-existent, and continued interest at stores and sales are now non-existent. The initial rush is over and amounted to about a half a day's worth of sales for Apple. None of which is surprising considering it is essentially a tech demo of an iPad on your face for $3,500. I expect there to be a visionOS 2, and I expect some modest changes, but nothing earth shattering, nothing that dramatically changes or enhances its functionality, and nothing that changes its biggest problems. If this product had any traction at all, there would be rumors of version 2 in the pipeline. Only rumors of version 2 for months are now are that it was cancelled.
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Reconsidering Vision Pro purchase after M4
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I bow to your superior intellect
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend you add AVP to your ecosystem of Apple devices as soon as you get the opportunity. There is no question AVP is the future of everything and you're really missing out if you don't start experiencing this ASAP.
If there's consensus about anything related to the AVP, it's that the next hardware release is at least a year or so off. Could Apple surprise us with a less expensive AVP sooner? Not impossible, but highly unlikely. Only you can say whether you can afford it, but when the AVP is available in the UK, why not try one for a week or so and see? As long as you're careful not to damage it, there's no downside.
The trolls, in their imagined wisdom, will say there's no reason to buy an AVP. But there are a lot of people here and on other social media who are enjoying and productively using the AVP as it is.
this product is been out a number of months and is still US only. This is not a product for most people i fail to understand people still aren't getting this.
it's going to take years to to get more interest due to the price point and availability.
vision OS will get some time at WWDC it has to.
Has there been much criticism of the hardware in the Visio Pro being underpowered?
I know there's also the R1 co-processor in there, so it's not all on the M2 chip to do the heavy lifting. I can't see them refreshing the hardware for a couple of years, so we'll probably be way past the M4 by then anyway. I wouldn't be making a decision on purchasing based on the M4 release in any way to be honest.
I know there's also the R1 co-processor in there, so it's not all on the M2 chip to do the heavy lifting. I can't see them refreshing the hardware for a couple of years, so we'll probably be way past the M4 by then anyway. I wouldn't be making a decision on purchasing based on the M4 release in any way to be honest.
1. It doesn’t have years. That isn’t how Apple operates.
2. No, it’s ‘ “have to”. It will get a passing mention, but more than 2 minutes, I don’t think so.
1. Apple sold 275k iPods in its first year (a product that’s 10x cheaper than AVP) - Why didn’t they give up on it?
The current AVP is the original Tesla Roadster. We’re multiple iterations away from when this becomes affordable and appealing for most people. I personally believe Apple are willing to work towards that rather than abandoning ship, given how much they’ve invested in this area
The actual m processor chip is only a small part of the overall power consumption so even a large decrease here would have minimal overall impact. Don’t forget the screens, all the cameras, the front visor screen, the custom chip…
Yes agreed! It would be helpful to have a breakdown of screens/R1/M2 power consumption to see how material it is. I know with most apple products the screen is major part of the power consumption these days - but I’m assuming it’s less of a factor in AVP given how small the screens are? Pure speculation though…
they're totally different devices with different BOMs and use cases.
What are you going to do, strap an iPad to your face?
If you want an AR headset now, as you did, you run with the tech available now.
Small, but bright and high resolution, but oled lol. Look it is what it is, I don’t think as you stated somewhere it might mean the difference of one hour, if anything it will be measured in minutes, a few. For example compare the the m4 iPad Pro 11 inch to the m2 iPad Pro 11 inch. There isn’t a huge difference, if any, in battery life. An m4 would not change the AVP battery experience.
Yeah fair - all guess work at the end of the day I suppose unless we have a breakdown of power consumption by component. My hunch is still a noticeable difference (atleast 30-45 minutes) but maybe they'd eat that efficiency up by making the displays bigger/brighter etc. Fun to think about
well, if that kind of guesswork that goes against what we historically see is what you need to help you not get the AVP, okay then! But there really is no reason to believe that 😂
Yeahhh I wouldn’t say it’s that outlandish - from the M2 11 inch iPP to the M4, I’m guessing the takes more power, which is offsetting the efficiency savings of the chipset. Those numbers above assume that M2 is roughly 50% of the power budget of the AVP, and that the M4 reduces energy consumption by around 50% - I don’t think either of those is crazy!
Yep you keep quoting those cpu numbers, and I’m not disagreeing there, but historically that’s always been true since the M1, and people have always predicted based on that alone substantial device battery life increases… and how often have we seen it? Zero. Nada. Zilch. It’s always within 5%, which on 120 minutes meaning even if real, that’s 6 minutes, not the 30 or more you keep predicting. That’s true for Mac’s, iPads, and iPhones. Why do you think the avp is different? Smaller screens you say, though still 4k I say, and extra cpu, and extra sensors, why does the avp already have a hefty battery? It takes a lot of power, and it’s not the M2. Your assumption that it’s 50% has zero basis. So maybe you’re right in this case, or maybe you’re like the hundreds before who have predicted similar and been disappointed. If I was going to Vegas I know where I’d be placing my bets. 🖖