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Riwam

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Jan 7, 2014
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I find that the developer of Onyx, Maintenance and Deeper (Titanium Software) deserves a great THANK YOU. :)

1) He doesn't ask a cent for them!
2) He made one of each for every version of OSX since Snow Leopard
3) He clearly helps with useful hints. For instance he warns not to clean system cache if you use Trim Enabler.

I use all of the 3 and am very satisfied.
Deeper reveals hidden system files for instance.

Thank you very much Titanium Software! :D
 
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KALLT

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Sep 23, 2008
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And NOT, system cache is NOT flushed by default. You have to manually select it.

It is selected by default, I've checked it myself before I posted that.

As I said, on a quite "clean" machine I run permissions repair and it found several (and fixed them).
I run it again and there were none left (so it actually repaired them).


That make my point stronger: with only a couple apps installed permissions break over a little time. While it doesn't affect much the OS stability, that is a proof the system isn't "bulletproof", and Apple should have left that functionality actionable by the user.

It doesn't make your point stronger at all, conversely, it makes clear that you just don't understand what permissions repair does. Of course Disk Utility says that it "repairs" permissions, but it can only compare permissions with a bill of materials (which it deems as correct); it doesn't actually know whether something is broken or not. Repair is just the wrong term, it should be called permissions restoration.

The fact that permissions change over time clearly suggests that there is a conflict somewhere between the bills of materials that are used for permissions repair and the system process that changes the permissions at some point. You are playing a cat-and-mouse game. I am still not convinced by any of this, it is needless work for no proven gain.
 
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Max(IT)

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Dec 8, 2009
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It is selected by default, I've checked it myself before I posted that.




IT IS NOT selected by default. You have to manually select it.
The only cache is flushed by default are user, fonts and web.
Just checked.
 

pdaviesoz

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Oct 21, 2008
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Adelaide, Oz
All this is very well, but my File Sharing has suddenly gone down on my MBP - cannot access other computers OR the MediaFiles drive for the AppleTV. Says "you do not have permission" or "the original item cannot be found". Now I can't even repair permissions. Any Ideas??
 

m4v3r1ck

macrumors 68030
Nov 2, 2011
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The Netherlands
I find that the developer of Onyx, Maintenance and Deeper (Titanium Software) deserves a great THANK YOU. :)

1) He doesn't ask a cent for them!
2) He made one of each for every version of OSX since Snow Leopard
3) He clearly helps with useful hints. For instance he warns not to clean system cache if you use Trim Enabler.

I use all of the 3 and am very satisfied.
Deeper reveals hidden system files for instance.

Thank you very much Titanium Software! :D

+1

I agree for 100%. A great free application, but use it with GREAT caution!

Cheers
 

eahyndman3

macrumors newbie
Dec 25, 2015
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Mobile, AL
Try this command:

/usr/libexec/repair_packages

This will fix permissions under 10.11 based on the standard receipts in /System/Library/Receipts when used as below:

sudo /usr/libexec/repair_packages --repair --standard-pkgs

Above is the command Disk Utility called.

Edward
 
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shoehornhands

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Oct 9, 2014
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Onyx also suggests that you clear actual system caches, which is a potentially disruptive thing to do. In my book, Onyx isn't much better than faux tools like MacKeeper, even though Onyx does offer a GUI for targeted repair actions in case of an actual problem. You are perfectly entitled to use it, but please, don't recommend it to other people. It's not necessary and just creates this urge to perform 'maintenance' that no one really needs.

Seriously? OnyX is a legitimate, well maintained, extremely useful (not to mention completely free) utility that's been around for as long as I can remember (in my opinion, it's one of the top free applications / utilities available for OS X).

MacKeeper on the other hand is malware, fueled by dishonest marketing, abundant fake reviews, it tries to trick you into installing it (e.g. using intentionally misnamed links / installers / redirects from other products, disguised as something else). If you are unfortunate enough to install the trial, it uses scare-tactics / fake problems / preys on ignorance to get people to purchase the full version (I've read claims of the trial going so far as to intentionally damage / break stuff so it can encourage users to purchase the full version to fix the problem), it hi-jacks your browser, spamming you with ads... it's a complete and utter piece of garbage.

There's no greedy, evil motives, anything unethical / dishonest about OnyX whatsoever. It's absolutely nothing like MacKeeper.
 
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