Returned my Air...Here's why

[camarobh]

The real point

Is there anyone on this forum which isn't a biased mac fanboy?

People have diferent experiences with Vista and Leopard, for me Vista has been a lot faster and reliable than Leopard, but for other people it's the other way around. Both of them will hopefully give more consistent user experiences after their service packs

The real point here is why post a message that says you don't like your MBA and are returning it to buy a Vista machine? I mean really, who cares? What are you trying to accomplish other than light up the flame wars? If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you did buy it, return it and move on. We don't need to hear about it. This forum should be used for sharing tips, troubleshooting issues, and exploring rumors.

 

[Techguy172]

I'm sorry, but I actually use XP, Vista, and Mac OS every day. So I call it like it is. Vista sucks why do you think no large corporation has adopted it? It provides zero advantage over XP unless you want to take advantage of all the DX10 games like Crysis. Oh yeah, Crisis actually works better on DX9 on XP. UAC is laughable at best and all the broken apps are a blast to deal with. 1 year after introduction I still have problems getting a stable VPN connection on Vista. XP on the other hand is quite stable and useful.

As far as asking for an unbiased opinion. Did you happen to notice what this site is called? I'm sure if I ventured to MaximumPC and asked for an unbiased review of Vista vs Mac OS I'm quite sure everyone would line up to extoll the virtues of each OS. Actually, that isn't a good example since most there would probably speak their minds which is that Vista is a mess.

What about better security new interface and better support for networks and Network attached storage as well as easier setup Those are advantages.

 

[duffyanneal]

What about better security new interface and better support for networks and Network attached storage as well as easier setup Those are advantages.

The new network features are in part what broke all existing VPN software. As I mentioned earlier I still have problems getting a stable VPN connection. At one point I had to reboot one of my Vista machines about 5-6 times a day. I gave up and went back to XP on that particular machine. As far as security is concerned the first thing I do after a clean install of Vista is disable UAC, Windows Defender, and the Security Control center. I guess I don't take advantage of those benefits. NOD32 seems to work fairly well along with whatever happens to be the flavor of the day for anti-spyware.

 

[NC MacGuy]

Maybe a fanboi here but,,,, I think Tiger is much more stable than Leopard and have had some Leopard issues. Honestly. Vista still sucks worse and I can live w. XP. I use Office over iWork, even though I don't dare touch Entourage.
My computers are much faster since switching from PPC to Intel.

I've had issues w. Apple products especially since going Intel but come on, they totally switched processors and had to re-write OS in what, two years? M$ has had plenty of time to dominate on the same platforms and hasn't kicked Apple's butt which they should have.

Fact is the two make the other better. Competition in this sense is good.

 

[zippster]

Is there anyone on this forum which isn't a biased mac fanboy?

People have diferent experiences with Vista and Leopard, for me Vista has been a lot faster and reliable than Leopard, but for other people it's the other way around. Both of them will hopefully give more consistent user experiences after their service packs

LMAO and you ask this on a MAC forum?

 

[Krevnik]

Good post, however I think if your going to buy a MBA your computing habits shouldn't include running a VM of Vista and opening some heavy duty apps (I count Office here as it's just awful).

I wouldn't virtualize Vista, but my XP VMWare install with Office and a couple other small apps (Microsoft Reader and ABBYY FineReader) seems to work just fine. For the most part it doesn't heat up and spin up the fans.

 

[rickboy]

I dont like your posting and here is why...

Im a graphic designer s naturally i would by a machine that suits my needs. Mac Air is a great product, but it doesnt suit my needs. You installed Fusion and started using a windows XP VM Machine? On top a that you were using very demanding software like illustrator and office is not that intesnive, but if you run multiple apps at the same time, Im gonna feel sorry for your MBA. If you have any concept of what RAM is, Scratch disk space and how CPU demanding these apps are, why through all this and blame the MBA when it clearly was made for things like, checking out your facebook or showing a power point presentation to a staff of bored director members? Sure you can do small things in photoshop and illustrator, but damn dude, you made the poor Mac book Air cringe in pain.

And the comment you made about Leopard learning a few things from vista is just wrong. I use vista at work and its aggrivating and used XP long before it.

Im gonna buy a MBA off of ebay when the next one comes out, because its good if you go travelling and backpacking in Europe and you can keep in touch and surf the web through wi fi networks. i havent bought one cause of the price and to be moving around I dont trust a traditional hard drive. Im want the SSD version. Its less vulnerable to bumps and magnetic fields you might encounter at airports.Thing is at 3,000... Ill be stressed out carrying that around in places like spain were you got gypsies pickpocketing tourists or staying in a hostel were it might get stolen. Im hoping to get one on ebay when i see one for less than 1000. What Im trying to say in this paragraph is that the MBA is a good product but has a specific use and targetted at a different market.

 

[Hansii]

I'm sorry, but I actually use XP, Vista, and Mac OS every day. So I call it like it is. Vista sucks why do you think no large corporation has adopted it? It provides zero advantage over XP unless you want to take advantage of all the DX10 games like Crysis. Oh yeah, Crisis actually works better on DX9 on XP. UAC is laughable at best and all the broken apps are a blast to deal with. 1 year after introduction I still have problems getting a stable VPN connection on Vista. XP on the other hand is quite stable and useful.

As far as asking for an unbiased opinion. Did you happen to notice what this site is called? I'm sure if I ventured to MaximumPC and asked for an unbiased review of Vista vs Mac OS I'm quite sure everyone would line up to extoll the virtues of each OS. Actually, that isn't a good example since most there would probably speak their minds which is that Vista is a mess.

I could list tons of thing in Vista that makes it a lot better than XP, but let's not get off topic. Just because you have problems with bad network drivers doesn't mean Vista is bad, I agree that you shouldn't have any problems, but it's not like it isn't like this with any OS, some unlucky peopel are going to have problems, no software is perfect.

But I agree with what one other poster said, this thread is pretty useless

 

[drchipinski]

Are you saying that it ran for 6 hours on the battery?

You should go buy a TZ. The battery does charge fairly quickly, but get ready to hear the fan ALL of the time regardless if you're doing anything. Enjoy Vista since retrograding back to XP is a severe pain in the ass with Sonys. Make sure to take advantage of Ready Boost with a SD or Express card. You'll need it even if you get an SSD. Oh I forgot the SD slot and Express card slot are too slow to be Ready Boost compliant (thank Sony for that one). Sorry. How do I know this? I actually own one.

Plugged in...the fan doesn't seem to run when it is not plugged in which is strange.

 

[drchipinski]

I am not planning on buying a Wondows based computer. I will wait to see if Apple can resolve these issues before I purchase another one. Not worth my time or anguish until then.

 

[diabolic]

Plugged in...the fan doesn't seem to run when it is not plugged in which is strange.

I wonder if the battery gets the system hotter when plugged in.

Maybe the reason I haven't had any heat issues is that I have run on battery only so far. The only time my MBA is plugged in is for recharging. My fans have run at 6200RPM, but only for shorter periods.

 

[McGiord]

Is there anyone on this forum which isn't a biased mac fanboy?

People have diferent experiences with Vista and Leopard, for me Vista has been a lot faster and reliable than Leopard, but for other people it's the other way around. Both of them will hopefully give more consistent user experiences after their service packs

All our opinions (fanboys and nonfanboys) are based on our logical way of thinking and in our taste.

Is like talking about your favorite restaurant, some people like sea food, others love it, some hate it while other want to eat it but are allergic!
If you then start talking about sushi, even some people who like sea food don't even give it a try, while others can't live with their periodic fix.

In the Mac vs PC, OSX vs Windows and all its flavors we have a very peculiar mixture of different experiences with people who live in the past, other that try to keep up with the latest and greatest (who is right about this?), and some that made our minds already on what is what we like and we just keep enjoying our time with our beloved stuff.

Is up to you to decide what do you want to do, try to convert people?

What is the essence of this forum:
Have this this 2 new religions or sects with extremist struggling to dominate a mac forum ???
Or we want to discuss interesting topics about the macs, and the industry?

 

[johnlvx]

Guys, this thread has become completely pointless in terms of contributing to the community.

As the OP I wish I could close it.

Newer mac user (me), meet mac community (hello). And a handful of fanboys who are counting on Apple Computer Co. for their eternal salvation.

I have gotten a taste of the so called "Cult of Mac". and How!

 

[devilot]

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