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Right! I bought the 11" today to compare.
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Guess I'll refrane myself from checking out which one I get and just be happy with what I got
Guess I'll refrane myself from checking out which one I get and just be happy with what I got
Of course. The only reason I checked was because of these threads. It's like a contagion. I'm contaminated. (and also an idiot BTW).
Drugs?
Could you post your calibration profile for your 2010 13" LG screen and help a brutha' out?
Just a simple suggestion to anyone worried about their screens.
Buy a hardware calibrator.
I used to care about which panel I received but then I decided to start hardware calibrating every screen I used. I've never had an issue since.
Buy a hardware calibrator.
I used to care about which panel I received but then I decided to start hardware calibrating every screen I used. I've never had an issue since.
It's a sensor that runs alongside an application to detect the colors displayed by your display. After it tests the color spectrum, it writes a color profile for your specific system and panel. It's common to use these if you work in print. They can be had for pretty darn cheap too.
You only have to run it once and then you can put it away or just go calibrate the rest of the screens in your home.
They are very easy to use. Install the software, plug the sensor into your USB port and the position the sensor over the screen.
Google: Screen Calibration
Very interesting. Do you have any recommendation on which one to buy? How much $$$ am looking to spend on something like that? "pretty darn cheap" can be relative
Quick search on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Pantone-MEU113-huey-Pro/dp/B000OFC1YY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1311383597&sr=8-2
There are less then ten on there. They seem cool, tad bit expensive though. But so worth it that it's hard to resist! I'll have to ask my friends if they have any that I can borrow though.
There are less then ten on there. They seem cool, tad bit expensive though. But so worth it that it's hard to resist! I'll have to ask my friends if they have any that I can borrow though.
Or, maybe who already has the hardware can post what they think is a good calibration setting for their particular screen...
Upon reading further into it. I really wouldn't do that. It says that all screens are not the same (which I believe since I have dual monitors and one is more vivid the the other) and that it even depends on the lighting of the room and what not.
Okay, and if it doesn't work for me, I'd switch back. It's not like I'm trying to install a SSD into a 2011 iMac, fer Pete's sake.
I can say from experience that there is definitely something..."off" about the new 13". It's not as sharp. Also, when the dock icons are small, like on the right or left side, certain ones like the App Store look strange. Almost pixelated but not really. It's hard to describe, but there is a definite quality difference here.
Plan to toy with some calibrations and see what I get.
Yeah, the display is definitely not a nice as my 2010 11". This one (LG) seems a bit washed out...reminds me of my 2008 aluminum macbook.
Holy ****, me too! I hate white walls, screens, clouds, etc! lol
And I'm glad you love the 11" (like I said).
I have Samsung SDD (which is good) but I have an LG Display...I'm starting to get paranoid because everyone is saying that the Samsung screen is better...and obviously I want the best.
Also...do the top keys on the 11" (the tiny ones) seem a bit delicate/all work correctly?
My volume up isn't as crisp as all the others.
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I won't be picking mine up until wednesday but I'll do a few different hardware calibrations to share. However, they rarely work from one panel to then next just because no panel is the same.
I would recommend anything from the spyder3 up. I found the spyder2 isn't very accurate on modern LCD's.
It really does make quite a difference. To put this in perspective, I had the MacBook "special edition" with the a truly lack luster screen. Calibration fixed all my complaints except the awful viewing angles (which is something calibration won't fix).
There really is no comparison between software and hardware calibration.
<returns from apple store>
<fires up replacement ultimate 13">
<looks at display, notices difference>
<fires up terminal, discovers samsung display>
<hugs air>
Getting a laptop with a quality display makes a bigger difference. I'm not getting hardware to make the stock display more usable; apple should be doing that if using lackluster displays. After all, I'm giving them my money to buy their machine. Maybe THEY should be getting hardware calibrators and making sure their specs are up to snuff.
Maybe you should go over there to the apple store and mop the floor for them. Better yet, go buy your own mop and bucket to take with you.
After the CE, I haven't bought another mac laptop for some time. I think apple should be giving a discount since we're doing their QC work for them.
If you're screen is good enough for you, fine. If not, take it back. Maybe they'll do a little better at their QC if they end up with a warehouse full of returned MBA's with LG screens.
<fires up replacement ultimate 13">
<looks at display, notices difference>
<fires up terminal, discovers samsung display>
<hugs air>
Getting a laptop with a quality display makes a bigger difference. I'm not getting hardware to make the stock display more usable; apple should be doing that if using lackluster displays. After all, I'm giving them my money to buy their machine. Maybe THEY should be getting hardware calibrators and making sure their specs are up to snuff.
Maybe you should go over there to the apple store and mop the floor for them. Better yet, go buy your own mop and bucket to take with you.
After the CE, I haven't bought another mac laptop for some time. I think apple should be giving a discount since we're doing their QC work for them.
If you're screen is good enough for you, fine. If not, take it back. Maybe they'll do a little better at their QC if they end up with a warehouse full of returned MBA's with LG screens.
I have an LG Display and thought it was great...until I hear the "Samsung's" are better. I'm not trying to play the lottery game. I do have a Samsung SSD (which is good) but is there any proof that Samsung Displays are better?
And are the viewing angles only better better? Or resolution, etc?
I have an 11" btw.
And are the viewing angles only better better? Or resolution, etc?
I have an 11" btw.
So basically to sum up the post...
The 11" is better because it has a Samsung display.
You can't categorically say that the 13" is lower quality because you have a different display. You should compare like to like. But it's a crapshoot.
Personally I think you'd love your 13" if you got a Samsung display. My 13" air is so crisp and clear that I can't imagine going to a smaller screen.
The 11" is better because it has a Samsung display.
You can't categorically say that the 13" is lower quality because you have a different display. You should compare like to like. But it's a crapshoot.
Personally I think you'd love your 13" if you got a Samsung display. My 13" air is so crisp and clear that I can't imagine going to a smaller screen.
Awwwwwwwww...
That would be nice. Just remember that having a calibrator will useful for a long time. It's amazing what they do to any display. These little wonders make an already great IPS panel look even better.
If all the LG's have bad viewing angles, then I'm with you.
I have been wavering between the 11inch MBA and the 13inch MBA. The trade off for me has been size and weight (favouring the 11inch-er) versus battery life (favouring the 13inch-er).
I found your review very helpful.
Thank you NutsnGum.
I found your review very helpful.
Thank you NutsnGum.
Very helpful thread.
I was considering the 13" (11" being too small), but I'll wait and see if Apple will get rid of the awful LG/LP display in favor of a Samsung in the later batches.
There often seems to be scarcity of LCD panels on the market due to the huge demand. This may be the reason why Apple got the low quality panels for the 13" (not that it's excusable)
I was considering the 13" (11" being too small), but I'll wait and see if Apple will get rid of the awful LG/LP display in favor of a Samsung in the later batches.
There often seems to be scarcity of LCD panels on the market due to the huge demand. This may be the reason why Apple got the low quality panels for the 13" (not that it's excusable)
That is somehow caused by Lion. I noticed the same thing on my MBP after upgrading to it.