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Mass Hysteria

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Jan 31, 2005
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I agree (sort of)

Chundles said:
Kind of like what we do with Fosters. Everyone outside Australia, you do realise that nobody drinks, buys or gives high regards to Fosters Lager down here - we think it's awful crap.

But gee it sells well overseas... :D


Aussie fosters is totally different to UK Fosters

(I still won't touch it though! – 'It's like making love in a canoe')
 

0098386

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I hear the price difference for the PS3 and 360 isn't that wide in America. but in the UK the 360 premium costs £270, the PS3 costs £450 (we're only getting the high end model).

Yea it's bad here. Games, consoles, cars, insurance... everythings so much more here. but I suppose wages compensate for that. I mean from what I see - American things just replace the $ with a £. for everything financially coming in and out.

Now Poland. My folks just bought some land out there to build a house on. it's 600*300' and only cost them £4000. the land we built our house on here cost about £70k for just 300*280'.

But hey. University only costs a fraction of what America has to pay, and if I get hit by a car then I will get operated upon despite having no health insurance. everything balances out.
 

XP Defector

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Apr 5, 2006
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thworple said:
As for the terrible weather - thanks to the US policies on carbon emissions and other environmental issues, the UK's weather system is getting better by the year due to global warming! We'll all be hitting the glorious sands of Bournemouth, rather than heading for the Mediterranean before the decade is out! :D

Actually, Britain is going to get colder due to global warming. This is due to the gulf stream being suppressed due to the influx of fresh water in the North Sea caused by the polar ice caps melting. If this happens, we're ****ed basically.
 

thequicksilver

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Sep 19, 2004
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FleurDuMal said:
Perhaps I'm the only person who thinks Londons public transport system is quite good?! The tube is incredibly quick (when it's working) and, unless you live in certain black spots, it's range is incredible. Unless you live on the Northern Line, most of the time you will have a positive experience.

Like anywhere in South London, for example…?

(Devil's advocate.) :)
 

generik

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Aug 5, 2005
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Chundles said:
Can you explain to me why you think that things should be sold at the going exchange rate without taking into account pricing for local storage, staff wages, advertising, design regulation compliance, legal fees, service costs, shipping and receiving etc.

It costs a different amount because it's sold in a different place with different conditions.

Mind you, we actually pay less than the UK for a lot of our Apple stuff down here. Not often that happens for tech products subject to the "southern hemisphere tax."

Local storage? You are telling me that things in the US don't get stored as well? In fact, look at your list again, all of them applies in the US too! So why is it more in the UK again?
 

Chundles

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Jul 4, 2005
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generik said:
Local storage? You are telling me that things in the US don't get stored as well? In fact, look at your list again, all of them applies in the US too! So why is it more in the UK again?

Because all that stuff costs more in the UK and cannot be controlled by Apple. They're external factors to be considered in arriving at the price of the goods.

EDIT: Of course all those things apply in the US, that's the point. They are aspects of a product's price that Apple has no control over - the difference in these costs between the US and the UK has to be factored into the price of the product.

Surely you don't believe everything costs the same all over the world? :p
 

freebooter

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Feb 24, 2005
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Glen Quagmire said:
I'm not surprised that public transport in the US is crap. Think of how few passengers they could fit in each bus or train. It'd cost a fortune for a proper system.

Hahahahahahahahha! I love fat American jokes.

By way of comparison, I just checked and here in Korea the MacPro base model costs 20% more than in the US. 10% of that is the VAT but what is the other 10% about? I could speculate but... Maybe an import duty. Korea likes to protect their industries.

In any case, Korea is low on the Apple priority list--the Korea website having only on Friday posted a price for the MacPro and the order button still does not work. They have never had BTO options here so I imagine Apple Korea is struggling with the one-model upgrade/downgrade scheme for the MacPro.
Mac is practically unknown and unused here outside specialty circles, although last year iPods broke dimly into their benighted conciousnesses. Most I've seen here belong to foriegners, though. Koreans generally prefer quantity over quality, and low price beats all. They seem to have a poor design taste compared, say, to the Japanese. (compare their cars...)
When I ask my students if they have a good computer, many say, "Yes, XP!!" :rolleyes: I actually laughed out loud when the first few times I heard that. I love a good joke. :)
 

generik

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Chundles said:
Because all that stuff costs more in the UK and cannot be controlled by Apple. They're external factors to be considered in arriving at the price of the goods.

EDIT: Of course all those things apply in the US, that's the point. They are aspects of a product's price that Apple has no control over - the difference in these costs between the US and the UK has to be factored into the price of the product.

Surely you don't believe everything costs the same all over the world? :p

At the rate things are going, with outsourcing and all, things will eventually be the same all over the world, it is just a matter of time. If your govt taxes higher than the next country, better make sure you vote them out of office next term, because come the next outsourcing wave and your entire country is gonna starve.... :eek:
 

BeefUK

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Jun 9, 2006
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Chundles said:
Kind of like what we do with Fosters. Everyone outside Australia, you do realise that nobody drinks, buys or gives high regards to Fosters Lager down here - we think it's awful crap.

But gee it sells well overseas... :D

I know fosters is tastes like p*ss!! I hate the stuff, I would never buy it.

BlizzardBomb said:
Err... European cars are much better than American cars. :D

Well said, American cars as like sheds with wheels. To which they then add the biggest, most polluting and uneconomical engine they can find!!!

They also call Petrol Gas. How can natural gas be the same as petrol??

They also call Football Soccer!!!!
 

Chundles

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Jul 4, 2005
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BeefUK said:
I know fosters is tastes like p*ss!! I hate the stuff, I would never buy it.



Well said, American cars as like sheds with wheels. To which they then add the biggest, most polluting and uneconomical engine they can find!!!

They also call Petrol Gas. How can natural gas be the same as petrol??

They also call Football Soccer!!!!

US cars handle like bathtubs with wheels - all floaty and nausea-inducing. Hey guys, tighten up your suspension a tad.
 

freebooter

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Feb 24, 2005
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generik said:
At the rate things are going, with outsourcing and all, things will eventually be the same all over the world, it is just a matter of time.

You mean most countries will eventually look something like variations of Iraq, Panama, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Uzbekistan... I hope not but it seems increasingly likely.

As to voting "them" out, good luck, because "their" replacement will in most cases have to follow the same basic scheme--the Big Money Boys call all the important shots. Governments that don't toe the line are soon crushed by economic and/or military means, unless the country is independently wealthy, well run and can defend itself--Venezuela. I wonder what iPods go for in Venezuela?
 

WannabeMacUser

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Jun 29, 2006
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Éire
Apple charge horrible prices in Ireland as well.

MacBook (Bottom line): US - $1099. IRE - 1119 Euro. Should Be - Rougly 850 Euro

iPod 30gig: US - $299 IRE - 329 Euro. Shuld Be - 232 Euro.
 

ictiosapiens

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May 9, 2006
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freebooter said:
You mean most countries will eventually look something like variations of Iraq, Panama, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Uzbekistan... I hope not but it seems increasingly likely.

As to voting "them" out, good luck, because "their" replacement will in most cases have to follow the same basic scheme--the Big Money Boys call all the important shots. Governments that don't toe the line are soon crushed by economic and/or military means, unless the country is independently wealthy, well run and can defend itself--Venezuela. I wonder what iPods go for in Venezuela?

Venezuela!!!

Are you kidding??? Have you ever been there???

I'm a Venezuelan, currently living in the UK, because the place has become impossible to live in!!!

Well run??? Nope, the levels of corruption are on par or above to previous regimes, that didn't hate the US. Chavez speech is all rethorical BS. He talks and talks, and even reprehends other southamerican states for dealing with the US, but he hasn't stoped supplying them oil for a single second(well, he did, but not by choice, but for a national paralisation, by HIS OPPOSITION)

Defend itself??? Agains who??? Venezuela doens't have any natural enemies, it never has had them. Chavez BS about the US wanting to invade is typical dictator's paranoia, it will never happen, he's not dumb enough to cut the US oil's supply, and that would be the only reason for the US to get involved. Hell, I wish they got involved, but not Irak style, maybe a cia sniper kind of thing, hahahaha, but it won't happen.

Venezuelans are the most relaxed, stress free, and happy living people out there. I don't think I know anyone who would even consider going to war.

Oh, and Ipods in Venezuela, go for at least 30% more than in any other country, because the government has frozen the exchange of currency, and the only way to get US $ is in the black market, for nearly an extra 30% of its value, or unless you are traveling. Also, import dutties are ridiculous, and the to get anything through customs, you'll have to pay(yep, under the table)

Oh, and the minimum wage, is in the order of $100 a month, and this is what most people earn. And before you come a tell me that cost is relative, nope, not in Venezuela, food and drink is nearly 50% cheaper than the UK(so, no cheap at all), if that... And, as mentioned, any imported goods, are at least 30% more expensive than in the US...

So, for those interested in foreign politics, that actually believe Chavez's BS, DON'T!!! do some research, talk to the locals, but don't give him credibility. He is in fact a really dangerous man, but not to the world or the US, but the the Venezuelans and maybe to his South American neighbours. This is a man, who looks for allies in places like Syria, Iran, North Corea, just to name a few, and as everybody knows, in his "Uncle" Fidel Castro!!!

I do apologise for the off topic and very long rant, but it makes my blood boil when people from other countries promote a regime that is making so many people leave the country that they love...
 

Patch^

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Mar 11, 2005
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Killyp said:
Did you know that a bus has on average 200 times the emissions of a normal car? Also, buses have to keep on stopping and starting. Does that sound nice and efficient to you? :p

I don't think you get the idea of public transport. It's obvious they emit more than a normal car. However with more people on public transport i.e. buses and trains, means less people on the road emitting less pollution.

If you look at most cars they normally have one person in a car or possibly 4 at the most..families etc.

On a bus you can get 30+ people and a lot more on train.

Also I don't think buses emit 200 times more than cars lol, I think thats a big exaggeration.

So what I am trying to say is that public transport is more efficient if you add everything up.

In response to some of the America verses the rest of the world comments lol. I think its crazy comparing countries with each other, we each have our own standards and ways of life.

However some comments by macenforcer I think were ignorant and a little offensive.

macenforcer said:
You know I got a great job offer in the UK last year and this was one of the main reasons I decided not to take that job. Not to mention...

- Different voltage
A lot other countries have different voltages, ever heard of adapters?
- High gas prices
Damn SUVs using up petrol (not gas, its a liquid) lol.
- Terrible weather
Where do you live? The SUN? lol. I think you will find that the UK has pretty good weather, I think we had one of the hottest days of the year in Europe this year.
- Gross quisine, except fish and chips which I love.
What did you eat? What about your xmas and thanks giving? I'm sure it's derived from an British Roast. Plus most American Cuisine is unhealthy.
- Drive on wrong side of the road
Which side is right? Plus by driving on the left gives more control to use your right-hand on the steering wheel i.e. when changing gears. (thats from my experience though)
- Roundabouts instead of 4-way stops.
Roundabouts save time and are more eco-friendly, instead of having to wait for lights to change every 15 mins at a stop, I think you will find less accidents occur on roundabouts to.
- No SUVs. Go to chevy UK.
SUVs are essentially designed to go off road, do you with yours? Plus everheard of landrover and rangerover? They originally come from here.
Hot dogs over there are not real hot dogs. :rolleyes:
Can't really argue with that lol, really depends on where you get a hotdog from :rolleyes:

You spell color like I just did, not colour. hehe.
Ummm...we are English from England the place where the language originally comes from. So it's us who spells it right. Unlike some dumbass back in the 1800s forgot how to spell colour back in the US. lol

You live your way and we will live ours.

I hate having to say stuff like this, this but I think some of it needed to be said :rolleyes:

In the end though, it's futile trying to compare countries, because no one ever wins lol..a majority of people are patriotic about their country and will fight for it, hence wars lol.

macenforcer said:
USA is the best country in the world. Naysayers are just jealous.

Mate thats just ignorant. Why would we be jealous? Like someone else said, every empire has it's downfall, if you could call the US and empire.

But you have the right to claim your country great. I think the same about the UK :)

Thank God not all Americans are like you.

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Back on subject though, I concur with Chundles: -

Because all that stuff costs more in the UK and cannot be controlled by Apple. They're external factors to be considered in arriving at the price of the goods.

EDIT: Of course all those things apply in the US, that's the point. They are aspects of a product's price that Apple has no control over - the difference in these costs between the US and the UK has to be factored into the price of the product.

Surely you don't believe everything costs the same all over the world? :p

Damn thats a long post lol. Sorry everyone.
 
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