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Enigmafan420

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Anyone use this?

I am trying to find out if it removes DCSS or at least allows you to make a back-up of a DVD.

We have a DVD player in our car, but I do not like the kids to take original movies due to fench fries and chocolate milk :)

Right now I am still using Bootcamp, AnyDVD and Clone DVD to resolve this problem but am looking for a MAC solution.

Any suggestions?
 
HandBrake is really nice, but if he wants to rip the entire DVD straight, he'll need MacTheRipper. And then HandBrake for encoding.

Both are free and more fully featured than the $18 RipIt.
MacTheRipper is not free... it's some strange "donationware" -- a scheme that I wouldn't support at any cost.
 
HandBrake is really nice, but if he wants to rip the entire DVD straight, he'll need MacTheRipper. And then HandBrake for encoding.

Both are free and more fully featured than the $18 RipIt.

How do these two work?

In Windows, AnyDVD removes the DCSS and the Clone DVD writes (and compresses if you so choose) back to the DVD-R.

When you say Handbrake for encoding, it sounds like the same function as Clone DVD and MacTheRipper sounds like the AnyDVD component. Do I understand this correctly? :confused:
 
Handbrake encodes to MPEG4 -- CloneDVD and MacTheRipper do not.

Okay sorry for this, I am a n00b here-and this is one case where windows "just works" and so far, OS-X does not.

Why do I care about the MPEG4 encoding? If I need to copy a DVD for use in the car, I need it to be a copy of the original. Isn't MPEG4 for compression for computer use? If so, I really do not NEED that, what I need is something to remove DCSS and then copy the DVD.
 
HandBrake is really nice, but if he wants to rip the entire DVD straight, he'll need MacTheRipper. And then HandBrake for encoding.

Both are free and more fully featured than the $18 RipIt.

Does MacTheRipper 2.6.6 work on Intel Macs? If not the OP would probably need MacTheRipper 3.xx and that does cost money. How much? Who knows, since you have to meet Guido in some dark cyberalley and hand over an undetermined amount and then and only then will Guido let you know if it is enough. :p
 
Okay sorry for this, I am a n00b here-and this is one case where windows "just works" and so far, OS-X does not.

Why do I care about the MPEG4 encoding? If I need to copy a DVD for use in the car, I need it to be a copy of the original. Isn't MPEG4 for compression for computer use? If so, I really do not NEED that, what I need is something to remove DCSS and then copy the DVD.

You can use Mac the Ripper (version 2.6.6 is free) to de-CSS the DVD and then Roxio Toast or something similar to burn it as a playable DVD. Simple. It's not a matter of Windows "just working" and Mac OS X not, it's a case of knowing which software is available on the Mac to do what you need to.
 
Personally, I'm not cool with MTR ripping off the GPL. Their donation crap is not ok with me. I use RipIt and have been very very impressed. I wish it had an option to only rip the main feature but I have not yet encountered a DVD that it couldn't properly rip. Worth the 18 bucks imo.
 
Personally, I'm not cool with MTR ripping off the GPL. Their donation crap is not ok with me. I use RipIt and have been very very impressed. I wish it had an option to only rip the main feature but I have not yet encountered a DVD that it couldn't properly rip. Worth the 18 bucks imo.

Thank you for discussing your experiences-the first post here to actually comment on RipIt. :)

How many DVDs have you ripped using it?
 
52 dvds in the last 6 days... I'm rapidly converting my movies to *.m4v so my life has pretty much sucked since the project began. I'm about 15% done. It's simple and quick, defeating all of the recent studio techniques.

There is no customization available however. You can pretty much select the directory and that's about it. Good luck.

P.S. I see your in WA. I'm finishing up grad school at WSU. Go Cougs.
 
52 dvds in the last 6 days... I'm rapidly converting my movies to *.m4v so my life has pretty much sucked since the project began. I'm about 15% done. It's simple and quick, defeating all of the recent studio techniques.

There is no customization available however. You can pretty much select the directory and that's about it. Good luck.

P.S. I see your in WA. I'm finishing up grad school at WSU. Go Cougs.

Thanks for the info-I don't care about customization-I do have a question about the rip though, can you then burn it back to a DVD -R or DVD R-DL?

As I mentioned above, I burn the kids movies so we don't have to risk the originals in the car-if the kids step on one or spill on it, I don't care (can't say I would like to buy most disney movies more than one time :)). I need to be able to rip it then burn it to recordable media. Does RipIt allow for this too? I have Roxio toast too, so could I use this to burn back?

Go Cougs-My son says he wants to go there. What are you studying?
 
52 dvds in the last 6 days... I'm rapidly converting my movies to *.m4v so my life has pretty much sucked since the project began. I'm about 15% done. It's simple and quick, defeating all of the recent studio techniques.

There is no customization available however. You can pretty much select the directory and that's about it. Good luck.

P.S. I see your in WA. I'm finishing up grad school at WSU. Go Cougs.

I don't currently own any DVDs with the "structural" copy protection built in and I've been curious about something.

Do Fairmount or Handbrake 0.9.3 work against the new "structural" copy protection or not? I've never been able to find anything about this.
 
Does MacTheRipper 2.6.6 work on Intel Macs? If not the OP would probably need MacTheRipper 3.xx and that does cost money. How much? Who knows, since you have to meet Guido in some dark cyberalley and hand over an undetermined amount and then and only then will Guido let you know if it is enough. :p

yes 2.6.6 works on intel macs, it has to run under Rosetta as it is a PPC application, MTR 3.0 is intel based though so it runs much smoother and uses less resources.

MTR3.0 is very hard to find, i am lucky enough to have a version.


Thanks for the info-I don't care about customization-I do have a question about the rip though, can you then burn it back to a DVD -R or DVD R-DL?

As I mentioned above, I burn the kids movies so we don't have to risk the originals in the car-if the kids step on one or spill on it, I don't care (can't say I would like to buy most disney movies more than one time :)). I need to be able to rip it then burn it to recordable media. Does RipIt allow for this too? I have Roxio toast too, so could I use this to burn back?

Go Cougs-My son says he wants to go there. What are you studying?

hey mate,

as i see it you have 3 main choices.

1) use OSX's built in features. you can make a disk image of the DVD and burn it back using disk utility. very easy to do.

2) you get MTR 3.0, it rips to the computer, no settings or customisation at all. you then burn it back using either apples disk utility or toast titanium (toast can also compress a DL movie to fit on a single layer if you wish, its a very handy program)

3) you pay for RipIt and use toast or disk utility to burn the movies on. (if your into the whole shareware thing)

:)
 
yes 2.6.6 works on intel macs, it has to run under Rosetta as it is a PPC application, MTR 3.0 is intel based though so it runs much smoother and uses less resources.

MTR3.0 is very hard to find, i am lucky enough to have a version.




hey mate,

as i see it you have 3 main choices.

1) use OSX's built in features. you can make a disk image of the DVD and burn it back using disk utility. very easy to do.

2) you get MTR 3.0, it rips to the computer, no settings or customisation at all. you then burn it back using either apples disk utility or toast titanium (toast can also compress a DL movie to fit on a single layer if you wish, its a very handy program)

3) you pay for RipIt and use toast or disk utility to burn the movies on. (if your into the whole shareware thing)

:)
Technically, you should have paid the "forced-donation" to the MtR author in order to get a copy of 3.0.
 
I do the same thing for my kids. Often, Finding Nemo or some other stupid title that I've seen 1000 times gets scratched beyond repair so I use a tool like MTR or RipIt and then toast to compress the files down to a single dvdr. So, yes it will work for you but it won't do it all.
 
"If I need to copy a DVD for use in the car, I need it to be a copy of the original."

i dont think the screen in your car will show any mp4 compression as i doubt you have a screen big or "bright" enough.

however, the mp4 compressor "handbrake" does not support subtitle conversion either so i would not be good to rip foreign language dvds anyway. use mactheripper to remove encryption, then dvd2oneX if you can find it.
 
"If I need to copy a DVD for use in the car, I need it to be a copy of the original."

i dont think the screen in your car will show any mp4 compression as i doubt you have a screen big or "bright" enough.

however, the mp4 compressor "handbrake" does not support subtitle conversion either so i would not be good to rip foreign language dvds anyway. use mactheripper to remove encryption, then dvd2oneX if you can find it.

huh? handbrake can add subtitles into the movie, there are a few options for it under the Audio tab.

OP, what to you feel about having say, 3-4 movies on the one disc (probably a dual layer disc).. because of the small screen size and poorer quality required that might save you a few dozen discs.
 
yes 2.6.6 works on intel macs, it has to run under Rosetta as it is a PPC application, MTR 3.0 is intel based though so it runs much smoother and uses less resources.
I use MTR 2.6.6 on my Macbook quite a lot, but it can be very flaky. It crashes to the desktop quite often, fortunately after it is done ripping in most cases. This seems to be especially true if I have my screen set to sleep. Handbrake has also crashed once or twice, but is far more reliable. If it jsut weren't so slow (1.5-3 hours per movie). This is perhaps because I usually use the AppleTV preset but modify the screen output to 4:3 (I have an :apple:TV forced to 4:3 mode); for widescreen movies I use the standard AppleTV preset.

If RipIt works well I may give that a try. It would be worth $18 just to get something that doesn't crash all the time.
 
UPDATE: I didn't have much time last night, but I tried bot MTR and RipIt on the same disc (Mildred Pierce) and they both took almost exactly the same time (19 minutes). at least RipIt didn't crash when it got done, but neither did MTR this time. However, MTR at elast has a few options for selecting what you want to rip, and RipIt seems to have no options at all except setting the destination directory and turning off animations (the spinning DVD I suppose). If they end up adding the MPEG4 encoding as they claim and it is as fast as they claim then I may give it a try.
 
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