Rise to wake - Does it work for anyone? (iPhone 6)

[prvt.donut]

i am on an iPhone 6, after updating when I picked up the phone it worked once, but since then I has not lit up the screen when I pick up the locked phone.

Is there a timer(i.e. It must be resting for x minutes before it enables rise to wake)? I went in the settings but couldn't find any related options.

 

[WillO95]

i am on an iPhone 6, after updating when I picked up the phone it worked once, but since then I has not lit up the screen when I pick up the locked phone.

Is there a timer(i.e. It must be resting for x minutes before it enables rise to wake)? I went in the settings but couldn't find any related options.

Rise to Wake is only compatible from the 6S/6S+ onwards. This is also stated on the apple website.

 

[Rok73]

Yup, it only works with A9 and higher devices. It would work with A8 as well but Tim wants you to buy a new phone.

 

[Aston441]

I hated that so much. It was turned on by default in iOS 10 I didn't know what was going on I thought I was going crazy. I finally figured out how to shut it off.

 

[prvt.donut]

That is weird, after the update I swear it woke up after I picked it up, maybe it only does it if plugged in?

And people accuse Microsoft of being the evil software computer company when it was Apple all along.

 

[GalFieri]

That is weird, after the update I swear it woke up after I picked it up, maybe it only does it if plugged in?

And people accuse Microsoft of being the evil software computer company when it was Apple all along.

Why does this make Apple evil?

 

[eyeseeyou]

That is weird, after the update I swear it woke up after I picked it up, maybe it only does it if plugged in?

And people accuse Microsoft of being the evil software computer company when it was Apple all along.

This actually would make perfect sense if that were the issue

 

[stooovie]

6 and 5s could theoretically do it too but it would kill your battery. They simply don't have the low-power sensor 6s and newer have. Evil not involved.

 

[simon lefisch]

I actually turned this feature off only 6s+. I'd prefer if they had the Knock-on feature that my LG G2 had. I think that's a better feature than raise to wake.

 

[Rok73]

6 and 5s could theoretically do it too but it would kill your battery. They simply don't have the low-power sensor 6s and newer have. Evil not involved.

I might be wrong but the 6/6 Plus both have the M8 motion sensor which was introduced as a low power sensor. I doubt that there is that much of a difference. Apple repeatedly brought new functions to newer phones which could have worked on the previous generation(s) and it had absolutely nothing to do with them not being capable. It's a business decision, I am sure.

 

[GalFieri]

I might be wrong but the 6/6 Plus both have the M8 motion sensor which was introduced as a low power sensor. I doubt that there is that much of a difference. Apple repeatedly brought new functions to newer phones which could have worked on the previous generation(s) and it had absolutely nothing to do with them not being capable. It's a business decision, I am sure.

What are you basing that on? Of course, it's partially a business decision, but it's also performance and battery life. It's never about the previous phones being unable to perform these actions like always-on Hey Siri or pace tracking (both that were introduced with the M9 on the 6s/6s+). It's usually about implementing these features without compromising performance and battery life to an acceptable level. And the M9 was a big change; the M7 and M8 were not embedded within the Ax SoC, while the M9 was embedded within the A9 SoC.

 

[smorrissey]

Another battery drain feature for those Apple devices having such a small battery.

 

[alleggerita]

Yup, it only works with A9 and higher devices. It would work with A8 as well but Tim wants you to buy a new phone.

No. but because only from the A9 onwards the motion co-processor is embedded within the SoC and therefore it's more energy efficient. That's why 6s and 7 are the only ones with always on Hey Siri.

If Apple allowed raise to wake on the 6/6+, people are gonna think it's Apple's fault that the battery drains like mad. So get your facts right before posting and spreading false info.
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What are you basing that on? Of course, it's partially a business decision, but it's also performance and battery life. It's never about the previous phones being unable to perform these actions like always-on Hey Siri or pace tracking (both that were introduced with the M9 on the 6s/6s+). It's usually about implementing these features without compromising performance and battery life to an acceptable level. And the M9 was a big change; the M7 and M8 were not embedded within the Ax SoC, while the M9 was embedded within the A9 SoC.

Read this Rok73, this guy and I basically said the same thing. Stop spreading false info. Thanks.

 

[GalFieri]

No. but because only from the A9 onwards the motion co-processor is separate from the CPU and therefore it's more energy efficient. That's why 6s and 7 are the only ones with always on Hey Siri.

If Apple allowed raise to wake on the 6/6+, people are gonna think it's Apple's fault that the battery drains like mad. So get your facts right before posting and spreading false info.

Nah it's the other way around; the A9 and A10 Fusion have the M9 and M10 respectively embedded in the SoC and that's what makes them more efficient.

 

[alleggerita]

Another battery drain feature for those Apple devices having such a small battery.

LOL, and do you have evidence to back your statement up? It brought no change in battery life for me. The M9 co-processor is literally consuming minute amounts of power. And even if the screen does wake up when you raise your phone, aren't you gonna unlock it anyways? The same thing as last time, you have to light the screen up before you can unlock it. Apple is just removing an additional step of having to click the power/home button to wake the screen.

 

[Feenician]

That is weird, after the update I swear it woke up after I picked it up, maybe it only does it if plugged in?

And people accuse Microsoft of being the evil software computer company when it was Apple all along.

Scene: Tim Cook and Craig Federighi in Tim Cook's office prior to shopping ios 10

Tim: I need you to do something Craig. Raise to wake; how is it working on phones before the 6s

Craig: Great Tim. No impact on battery and works just fine

Tim: I need you to disable it.

Craig: Why?

Tim: it'll really piss off prvt.donut and he's sure to upgrade as a result

Craig: brilliant boss! Another winner!

Tim: *leans back in chair and strokes cat*



Well, it's that or paranoia. You decide.

 

[alleggerita]

Nah it's the other way around; the A9 and A10 Fusion have the M9 and M10 respectively embedded in the SoC and that's what makes them more efficient.

Oh yes, you're right. My bad. But we are basically on to the same thing.

 

[smorrissey]

LOL, and do you have evidence to back your statement up? It brought no change in battery life for me. The M9 co-processor is literally consuming minute amounts of power. And even if the screen does wake up when you raise your phone, aren't you gonna unlock it anyways? The same thing as last time, you have to light the screen up before you can unlock it. Apple is just removing an additional step of having to click the power/home button to wake the screen.

What about using my brain? pure logic mmm? LOL You don't think each time the screen is on you are saving battery, do you?

ios 10 is a mess currently for many users regarding battery life, 1% dropping each 2 minutes pretty much in average doing anything, glad that you are as good as always.

 

[nordique]

I might be wrong but the 6/6 Plus both have the M8 motion sensor which was introduced as a low power sensor. I doubt that there is that much of a difference. Apple repeatedly brought new functions to newer phones which could have worked on the previous generation(s) and it had absolutely nothing to do with them not being capable. It's a business decision, I am sure.

Theoretically you'd still be able to do this with the M8 and M7 (the coprocessor was introduced with the 5s in 2013 when the switch to 64 bit was made, not the 6/6+) but it would drain battery on those devices

You can raise to wake on iPhone 6s/6s+, SE and 7/7+ with negligible drain on battery life

In theory you could raise to wake on iPhone 5s and 6/6+ due to the motion coprocessors they have, but that would likely drain the battery life and thus drive people nuts since they would need to be "always on"

Thus, its not practical because the battery drain that would occur would be constant, so I highly doubt it was a business decision but rather a decision based on the limitations of the design with respect to the M7 & M8

 

[C DM]

What about using my brain? pure logic mmm? LOL You don't think each time the screen is on you are saving battery, do you?

ios 10 is a mess currently for many users regarding battery life, 1% dropping each 2 minutes pretty much in average doing anything, glad that you are as good as always.

And realistically it's not a mess for many others. Pretty much seems to be on par with any other major iOS release and/or new device release.

 

[smorrissey]

And realistically it's not a mess for many others. Pretty much seems to be on par with any other major iOS release and/or new device release.

I don't know numbers but i've seen many people with an iphone 6s specifically having this issue but also iphone 6s plus users not being affected, on the contrary battery seems to be better on those devices so....what can i say? perhaps a 50 and 50? who knows....only one thing i was not an isolated case that for sure...

 

[alleggerita]

What about using my brain? pure logic mmm? LOL You don't think each time the screen is on you are saving battery, do you?

ios 10 is a mess currently for many users regarding battery life, 1% dropping each 2 minutes pretty much in average doing anything, glad that you are as good as always.

Then I'll use my brain and pure logic too. Battery drain issue is one of the most common problems with new software releases. Historically all major iOS X.0 releases had people flooding this forum saying it's draining their battery.

So the raise to wake cannot be pointed to as the culprit for this issue.

In any case, when your phone is on the table and you want to check your notifications. What do you do? You give the power/home button a click to wake the screen. When you want to unlock the phone what do you do? You give the home/power button a click to wake the screen to unlock it. Raise to wake simply took away the clicking part of the equation. Simplifying things for you while consuming as good as negligible additional battery power.

Whatever that you do to your phone when it's screen is off is to wake it up, raise to wake makes it easier, it doesn't make your phone wake up the screen more. And if you don't like it or thinks it drains battery, you can always turn it off. So your point is moot.

 

[C DM]

I don't know numbers but i've seen many people with an iphone 6s specifically having this issue but also iphone 6s plus users not being affected, on the contrary battery seems to be better on those devices so....what can i say? perhaps a 50 and 50? who knows....only one thing i was not an isolated case that for sure...

I'm not sure it's 50/50 as there would be far far more people discussing it if it was that. But even if it is it's still basically similar to other major releases where the chatter is similar.

 

[smorrissey]

I'm not sure it's 50/50 as there would be far far more people discussing it if it was that. But even if it is it's still basically similar to other major releases where the chatter is similar.

well i don't want to deviate anymore from this thread's topic, there's a battery thread on this forum i'm gonna continuing posting there. I've already posted what i wanted to say about this new rise to wake "feature".

 

[Feenician]

well i don't want to deviate anymore from this thread's topic, there's a battery thread on this forum i'm gonna continuing posting there. I've already posted what i wanted to say about this new rise to wake "feature".

It was "well thought out" and made a lot of "sense"