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Partron22

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Apr 13, 2011
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What apps are those exactly? Like TotalFinder? Well, these apps actually hack the OS, and they are very clear about it.
You make that sound as if you think that's a bad thing!
Apple has never produced a perfect operating system, and that being the case, a little tweakage is sometimes necessary.
 

leman

macrumors Core
Oct 14, 2008
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You make that sound as if you think that's a bad thing!
Apple has never produced a perfect operating system, and that being the case, a little tweakage is sometimes necessary.

I believe that reverse-engineering applications and injecting custom code into them to modify their behaviour is a very bad (even though quite fun) thing. Don't like a stock option? Why not develop your own app that is better? This way you are in total control over the code and avoid the risks of introducing subtle bugs or vulnerabilities into the system or potentially needing a complex update every time the OS is refreshed.

Of course, as you say, OS X is not perfect. At this time, Apple is pursuing a very interesting path to address these issue, in form of system-wide extensions. The current APIs for creating plugins and communicating between processes in OS X are quite advanced, e.g. you can even share GPU memory between applications. Common plugin interface allows OS X to solve the issue of extendability in a safe, controlled, user-friendly way. For instance, I can use the advanced photo-editing capabilities of Pixelmator in iPhoto. The extensions are still very young of course and the API leaves much to be desired. However, the potential utility is enormous! Frankly, I am surprised that extensions, which I consider to be probably the most advanced and exiting development in OS X in the recent years, don't get more attention in the discussions.
 

fivenotrump

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Apr 15, 2009
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SIP is an excellent way to increase overall security of the OS, and another good reason to upgrade to El Cap.
BTW: what happened to security updates to 10.9-10?
 

rwba

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Oct 16, 2015
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If you haven't noticed yet: Adobe has told these 10% of their customers to stuff it a long time ago: none of their current applications still supports Snow Leopard, let alone Leopard. The most recent versions even require 10.9 or later. The same is true for virtually every other professional application.

For my
If you haven't noticed yet: Adobe has told these 10% of their customers to stuff it a long time ago: none of their current applications still supports Snow Leopard, let alone Leopard. The most recent versions even require 10.9 or later. The same is true for virtually every other professional application.
I use 10.4.1 for virtually everything I do. It is extremely stable, never crashes and allows me to use software that works very well without bells and whistles that are useless. I have a late 2012 Mac Mini with Mavericks that is extremely slow doing most everything compared to 10.4.1. Not to mention the frequent crashes of Mavericks. I only use the Mac Mini when I need to use software that won't work on 10.4.11. Ten years ago I had to buy a PC in order to use software that wasn't available for the Mac. Now we have to do the same thing using various mac OSs. It is my suspicion that there is a certain amount of collusion between Apple and the application makers to create a situation where the customer is forced to continue to buy new hardware and software that more often than not is less efficient and useful than apps 10 years old. The Mac Mini is my last mac. Many of my colleagues are dumping their Macs and going to Windows. Apple totally blew it!
 

xgman

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Aug 6, 2007
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Yeah well, but the auvaltool in 10.11 can't scan plugins proplerly and it makes LPX crash/hang. Users have to disable SIP in order to make this work because they have to use an older version of auvaltool in /usr/bin... Apparently 10.11.1 fixes the issue, doesn't seem to me that third-party developers are at fault here.

This is fixed in the latest 10.11.1 beta.
 
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