S4 vs HTC One dogfight

[Krimsonmyst]

You also have to remember that FCs on Android will actually say - "<X app> has stopped working".

On iOS they'll just close, or it'll just go back to the home screen. I've seen a few threads here on MR that show the crash logs on iPhones (jailbroken phones only), and there is stuff crashing on iPhones left right and centre. It's just not as obvious, apparently.

 

[Apollo 13]

I have a Retina Macbook Pro which is far faster than your Macbook Air and it occasionally FC and lags just like ANY computer.

well I have a high powered PC and it doesn't lag at all. Better stop buying those over priced lagging Apple PCs.

Anyways I did see a video review that the S4 had occasional lag. If I had to pick between the two phones it would be a hard choice. The features are nice on the S4 but also gimmicky so I would most likly not use them. I would probably shoot for the HTC One cuz of the build and I don't put cases on my phones anyways, so that plastic on the S4 would bother me along with it being light weight which would make it feel like a cheap toy.

 

[fredaroony]

well I have a high powered PC and it doesn't lag at all. Better stop buying those over priced lagging Apple PCs.

Anyways I did see a video review that the S4 had occasional lag. If I had to pick between the two phones it would be a hard choice. The features are nice on the S4 but also gimmicky so I would most likly not use them. I would probably shoot for the HTC One cuz of the build and I don't put cases on my phones anyways, so that plastic on the S4 would bother me along with it being light weight which would make it feel like a cheap toy.

Sure it does...all computers lag at some point.

 

[mattopotamus]

well I have a high powered PC and it doesn't lag at all. Better stop buying those over priced lagging Apple PCs.

Anyways I did see a video review that the S4 had occasional lag. If I had to pick between the two phones it would be a hard choice. The features are nice on the S4 but also gimmicky so I would most likly not use them. I would probably shoot for the HTC One cuz of the build and I don't put cases on my phones anyways, so that plastic on the S4 would bother me along with it being light weight which would make it feel like a cheap toy.

I would probably also go with the HTC one. The air gestures look very gimmicky. The slight delay and not scrolling exactly to where I want would be more of a burden than a use. I see most people using them to "show off" a feature. That rare time when I have dirty hands I may use them.

 

[cynics]

The fact is Android is still not very well put together. I can count the times on one hand I have had my iPad mini or iPhone 5 force close an app. Its always Facebook by the way, which is due to the app itself and not iOS. I would need hundreds and hundreds of hands to count how many force closes I have had on Android phones over the years, even recent ones like my Note 2. Only the biggest of Android fan boys would argue that Android is smoother, less laggy and force closes apps less than iOS.

Can you take your iPhone 5 and goto Settings > General > About > Diagnostic & Usage > Diagnostic & Usage Data then scroll to Latest crash section and post a screen shot like this...

Those are apps that have crashed. Some of those are native apps, springboard means the entire OS crashed. I can't count the times even on two hands an app has crash on iOS since I did a restore 2 months ago.

Just because it doesn't say the app crashed doesn't mean it didn't. BTW I'm not saying Android is better or anything just feel like you might be in slight denial of how buggy iOS apps can be.

 

[Tinmania]

Can you take your iPhone 5 and goto Settings > General > About > Diagnostic & Usage > Diagnostic & Usage Data then scroll to Latest crash section and post a screen shot like this...

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It's great that you go through the effort, Cyn. But from what I see the people you ask to do this are not about to admit there is any problem with iOS. I can see some going as far as fully resetting the device so there is nothing in that section. Even if they oblige and post a screen shot.... would it really be believable?



Michael

 

[MRU]

I like how an S4 v HTC One thread went to iOS v Android .......



If I get the Samsung S4 tomorrow I'll let you all know how it compares to the HTC one.

My HTC one is being sent off for refund or replacement due to a lens fault, but will leave me without a phone for a week, so I'm tempted to pick up the S4 tomorrow and see what it's like and then when I'm refunded or replaced I'll decide which to keep.


The HTC one for me is great, I really like Sense OS and it's aesthetics, and the phone handset itself is a thing of real beauty. I have no issues with buttons or power button placement.

My biggest gripe is CAMERA. After nearly three weeks I'm not sure 3.8 megapixels is enough, and whilst the new camera software released today goes some way to rectifying HDR etc.. It still doesnt mask the fact that 3.8 megapixels is not a lot, and 8 megapixel camera would pack considerably more detail. I have found that I actually don't shoot photos in lowlight conditions so the benefit of 'ultrapixel' technology is lost on me.


The Samsung S4, pretty much the only thing I'm convinced about is the camera, I know it's going to be good. As for Touchwiz, I remain unconvinced its for me, and the aesthetics of the phone are just not a patch on the HTC one, though I do like the smart cover case idea.

So there we go. My carrier has the S4 available tomorrow, I am going to be without a smartphone tomorrow, now to decide do I take a chance on the S4 ? If anything I'd almost be more tempted to look at the Xperia Z but the greasy finger print screen would drive me nuts.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I like how an S4 v HTC One thread went to iOS v Android .......

If you read the OP, it doesn't even match his own thread title besides the video link. Obvious troll indicator.

 

[cynics]

It's great that you go through the effort, Cyn. But from what I see the people you ask to do this are not about to admit there is any problem with iOS. I can see some going as far as fully resetting the device so there is nothing in that section. Even if they oblige and post a screen shot.... would it really be believable?



Michael

I just enjoy ending conversations.

I've asked a dozen people on here to post the same thing when they say how stable iOS is. I've yet to get a screenshot back. I'm not saying they don't exist just haven't seen it yet.

 

[johnjefferson]

Can you take your iPhone 5 and goto Settings > General > About > Diagnostic & Usage > Diagnostic & Usage Data then scroll to Latest crash section and post a screen shot like this...

As I said, I can count on one hand the number of times an app has crashed on my iPhone or iPad

 

[jrswizzle]

I like how an S4 v HTC One thread went to iOS v Android .......



If I get the Samsung S4 tomorrow I'll let you all know how it compares to the HTC one.

My HTC one is being sent off for refund or replacement due to a lens fault, but will leave me without a phone for a week, so I'm tempted to pick up the S4 tomorrow and see what it's like and then when I'm refunded or replaced I'll decide which to keep.


The HTC one for me is great, I really like Sense OS and it's aesthetics, and the phone handset itself is a thing of real beauty. I have no issues with buttons or power button placement.

My biggest gripe is CAMERA. After nearly three weeks I'm not sure 3.8 megapixels is enough, and whilst the new camera software released today goes some way to rectifying HDR etc.. It still doesnt mask the fact that 3.8 megapixels is not a lot, and 8 megapixel camera would pack considerably more detail. I have found that I actually don't shoot photos in lowlight conditions so the benefit of 'ultrapixel' technology is lost on me.


The Samsung S4, pretty much the only thing I'm convinced about is the camera, I know it's going to be good. As for Touchwiz, I remain unconvinced its for me, and the aesthetics of the phone are just not a patch on the HTC one, though I do like the smart cover case idea.

So there we go. My carrier has the S4 available tomorrow, I am going to be without a smartphone tomorrow, now to decide do I take a chance on the S4 ? If anything I'd almost be more tempted to look at the Xperia Z but the greasy finger print screen would drive me nuts.

I look forward to seeing your impressions of the GS4.....

I'm considering setting up a dummy line to get my HTC One sooner....gonna try and snag a used GS3 from my brother-in-law as well to try out touchwiz and the Samsung experience (which I hope shouldn't be too far off from a GS4).

Still gotta figure out how I'd pay for the two devices.....just got caught up finances-wise from our house purchase last fall! Likely, if the wife allows, I'll just set up the dummy line and buy the HTC One....save myself the trips during lunch to the BBY Mobile store to play with their demo model every other day!

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

As I said, I can count on one hand the number of times an app has crashed on my iPhone or iPad

You have 18 fingers on one hand.

 

[jrswizzle]

I just enjoy ending conversations.

I've asked a dozen people on here to post the same thing when they say how stable iOS is. I've yet to get a screenshot back. I'm not saying they don't exist just haven't seen it yet.

Launch day iPhone 5 - no resets to wipe the diagnostics or anything (hadn't ever even looked here until today....). Scrolling up and down yields low memory warnings, no crashes. All the crashes fit on this page.

Check out crittercisms statistics - iOS 6 vs. Android 4.2. They are almost both equally stable, with iOS 6 only being slightly more so (1.15% vs. 1.5% crash rates).

This is a stupid argument......the real issue is, what percentage of Android phones are on 4.2 (or even 4.0 for that matter) versus the number which are on iOS 6. Because back in the 2.x and 3.x days of Android, the crash rates were considerably higher (as were earlier versions of iOS).

 

[johnjefferson]

You have 18 fingers on one hand.

Do you see 18 crashes?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Do you see 18 crashes?

I stand corrected. Your now missing fingers.

 

[YourAvgUser]

I stand corrected. Your now missing fingers.

Wouldn't worry about this guy, either doesn't know what he's talking about or can't read.

 

[fredaroony]

I like how an S4 v HTC One thread went to iOS v Android .......



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The HTC one for me is great, I really like Sense OS and it's aesthetics, and the phone handset itself is a thing of real beauty. I have no issues with buttons or power button placement.

My biggest gripe is CAMERA. After nearly three weeks I'm not sure 3.8 megapixels is enough, and whilst the new camera software released today goes some way to rectifying HDR etc.. It still doesnt mask the fact that 3.8 megapixels is not a lot, and 8 megapixel camera would pack considerably more detail. I have found that I actually don't shoot photos in lowlight conditions so the benefit of 'ultrapixel' technology is lost on me.

Funny because I've had a few HTC devices, in fact still have a HTC One X, and I don't like the new Sense at all. To me it seems like they went overboard with the styling, that my personal opinion though.

HTC were quite brave to launch this phone with this type of camera, I guess we see how it goes for them. Having said that, the One X and One X+ were great phones but it didn't seem to help them much. To me, they were better than the S3.

 

[Apollo 13]

Can you take your iPhone 5 and goto Settings > General > About > Diagnostic & Usage > Diagnostic & Usage Data then scroll to Latest crash section and post a screen shot like this...

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Those are apps that have crashed. Some of those are native apps, springboard means the entire OS crashed. I can't count the times even on two hands an app has crash on iOS since I did a restore 2 months ago.

Just because it doesn't say the app crashed doesn't mean it didn't. BTW I'm not saying Android is better or anything just feel like you might be in slight denial of how buggy iOS apps can be.

didn't know that was built into ios. I actually checked mind and notice I don't have app crashes like yours and I have a lot of apps and my phone is jailbroken. I see a few MailCompositions, few webbookmarkedsd, and 1 Springboard crash. I rarely see crashes on my phone and at this point if I did with all the stuff I have installed I would do a system restore because I would had installed something bad.


*EDIT* checked ipad 2 has a lot of crashes mostly low memory, 1 netflix, 1 facebook, and 3 chrome.

 

[Tinmania]

*EDIT* checked ipad 2 has a lot of crashes mostly low memory, 1 netflix, 1 facebook, and 3 chrome.

Yes sometimes when apps crash they don't get a log entry of their own, but instead it's in a low memory entry.

For example Huffington Post app crashes just about every day for me. But there are only about 10 log entries for Huffington Post. If I check in the low memory logs I can find many more.

As already mentioned though, at this point in time there is little point trying to claim either iOS or Android crash more than the other. They are both about equal and that is not saying either are bad. I would only add that some might think iOS is a lot less since you are not told about a crash--you are just back at the home screen (My aunt: "hmmm, guess I hit the home button" ).



Michael

 

[johnjefferson]

Regardless, my point still stands. Only the biggest of Android fan boys could make a claim that Android runs smoother and force closes less than iOS. I have had many Android phones over the years from the Hero and Evo to the Galaxy S series and Note. The Android OS still needs work, hell, even their own main devs admit its not where they want it to be yet. I still may go back to Android, but after seeing brand new phones with quadcore processors running the current OS stuttering and force closing apps over a short 12 minute video, I am not ready yet. Unacceptable.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Regardless, my point still stands. Only the biggest of Android fan boys could make a claim that Android runs smoother and force closes less than iOS.

I guess I'm a big Android fanboy, cause the S3 is smoother than any iOS device I've used.

 

[spinedoc77]

Not sure who the hell rated iPhone 5 battery life on wifi that high. I've never gotten that much time on wifi usually it's a solid 6 or so hours when i'm browsing on wifi not even streaming video or music, strictly browsing. I don't trust it

Yeah, how in hell did the ip5 get better battery life than the note 2? I can have the note 2 running navigation with the screen on all day and it still lasts much longer than an iPhone 5 only being talked on. Something is weird with those specs.

 

[adnbek]

Yeah, how in hell did the ip5 get better battery life than the note 2? I can have the note 2 running navigation with the screen on all day and it still lasts much longer than an iPhone 5 only being talked on. Something is weird with those specs.

I think it's all explained here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/12

Essentially, at idle states, the cpu in the iPhone 5 draws far less power than the cpus on most smartphhones today, hence why we see better battery performance in tests that involves the cpu throttling down to idle quickly.

Under load however, it draws considerably more power than the average CPU so in tests that keep the CPU active and at max load, it'll drain quicker.

Hence, why the tests show the iPhone 5 doing very well in some tests, but being a total battery hog in others.

 

[mib1800]

As I said, I can count on one hand the number of times an app has crashed on my iPhone or iPad

It could be that you have just rebooted the phone.

 

[Lindsford]

Yeah, how in hell did the ip5 get better battery life than the note 2? I can have the note 2 running navigation with the screen on all day and it still lasts much longer than an iPhone 5 only being talked on. Something is weird with those specs.

Agreed I love Apple stuff but somethings fishy here, specially if thats suppose to be usage? Not really sure whats going on there

I think it's all explained here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/12

Essentially, at idle states, the cpu in the iPhone 5 draws far less power than the cpus on most smartphhones today, hence why we see better battery performance in tests that involves the cpu throttling down to idle quickly.

Under load however, it draws considerably more power than the average CPU so in tests that keep the CPU active and at max load, it'll drain quicker.

Hence, why the tests show the iPhone 5 doing very well in some tests, but being a total battery hog in others.

Never seen 9 hours screen time on wife is all i'm saying, even with brightness down. Stand by for me is great on iphone 5 unless im somewhere with 1/2 bars then obviously by the end of the day it's game over for the little guy