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Safari 17.5 crashes

macOS Monterey 12.7.6 Release Candidate 3 (21H1313) has been released to registered developers.
can somebody check RC3 if the bug is fixed?
 
It seems 12.7.6 RC4 solves the issue. So far so good

Still crashes with EXC_CRASH exception
 
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Can confirm, also having this error and only after I've updated to Safari 17.5. I'm on Monterey 12.7.5.

I think I need to clarify: I'm getting this error message each time I close Safari's window, but if I simply press "Continue" it won't crash, just continues to work. Obviously, if I press "Crash" Safari crashes. Still annoying af.
 

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Safari 17.6 Beta Release Notes​

Released June 17, 2024 — 17.6 (19618.3.7)
Overview
Safari 17.6 beta is available for iOS 17.6 beta, iPadOS 17.6 beta, visionOS 1.3 beta, macOS Sonoma, macOS Monterey, and macOS Ventura.

can somebody test safari 17.6 that the bugs have been fixed?
 
Alas, the problem still exists on macOS Monterey 12.7.6 Release Candidate 5 (21H1320) with Safari 17.6 17618.3.10
 
bogdanw said:
What does Show details say?
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Usually something like this:

Exception Name: NSInternalInconsistencyException
Description: An instance 0x600006f85ce0 of class NSLayoutGuide was deallocated while key value observers were still registered with it. Current observation info: <NSKeyValueObservationInfo 0x60000967b8a0> (
<NSKeyValueObservance 0x600009ea1830: Observer: 0x600009ea1860, Key path: frame, Options: <New: NO, Old: NO, Prior: YES> Context: 0x6000032053b0, Property: 0x600001fe9f50>
)
User Info: (null)

0 CoreFoundation 0x00007ff8059446b3 __exceptionPreprocess + 242
1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007ff8056a48bb objc_exception_throw + 48
2 Foundation 0x00007ff80673b799 NSKVODeallocate + 534
3 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007ff8056b43ec _object_remove_associations + 589
4 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007ff805697f99 objc_destructInstance + 113
5 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007ff805697f1d _objc_rootDealloc + 62
6 AppKit 0x00007ff808353f64 -[NSResponder dealloc] + 166
7 AppKit 0x00007ff808351f04 -[NSView dealloc] + 149
8 AppKit 0x00007ff808609ef1 -[NSFrameView dealloc] + 177
9 AppKit 0x00007ff808609e39 -[NSTitledFrame dealloc] + 62
10 AppKit 0x00007ff808609dd4 -[NSThemeFrame dealloc] + 807
11 AppKit 0x00007ff808572bb9 -[NSWindow dealloc] + 1097
12 Safari 0x0000000109846849 -[Window dealloc] + 71
13 Safari 0x000000010935b50d -[BrowserWindow dealloc] + 70
14 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007ff80569bdea _ZN19AutoreleasePoolPage12releaseUntilEPP11objc_object + 164
15 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007ff805698d6f objc_autoreleasePoolPop + 168
16 CoreFoundation 0x00007ff80588aaba _CFAutoreleasePoolPop + 22
17 CoreFoundation 0x00007ff8058e19ef __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 1058
18 CoreFoundation 0x00007ff8058e14d8 __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 307
19 CoreFoundation 0x00007ff8058c7be6 __CFRunLoopRun + 2010
20 CoreFoundation 0x00007ff8058c6d4c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 562
21 HIToolbox 0x00007ff80e57a5e6 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292
22 HIToolbox 0x00007ff80e57a34a ReceiveNextEventCommon + 594
23 HIToolbox 0x00007ff80e57a0e5 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 70
24 AppKit 0x00007ff808305aa9 _DPSNextEvent + 927
25 AppKit 0x00007ff808304166 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1394
26 Safari 0x000000010927ea2c -[BrowserApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 224
27 AppKit 0x00007ff8082f6818 -[NSApplication run] + 586
28 AppKit 0x00007ff8082ca79a NSApplicationMain + 817
29 Safari 0x0000000109640450 SafariMain + 521
30 dyld 0x000000010eb7852e start + 462
 
I am curious if those of us having the crash issue have something in common outside of the Safari version (17.5+)? For example do you have a VPN client or network tool like LuLu installed? I also have WIPR and the IINA safari extensions.

Safari is crashing on me even when not using the VPN, so I initially eliminated it as a cause. I did notice there is a persistent daemon that is running even when not connected, so I removed my client (well, zipped it up) and force quit the daemon, and haven't had a crash in Safari so far.

I do also have LuLu running in the background to keep an eye on what apps are trying to connect to the net.
 
Anyone got the new Monterey 12.7.6 update installed to confirm if the crash still happens? Reluctant to update myself.

EDIT: found a reddit comment posted from just hours ago, someone confirms crash is still happening...
 
From @kenm22's post #4 on May 16, it was obvious that this is not a Safari/macOS problem, but a user configuration issue.

At least consider trying to troubleshot the problem:
- clear Safari's cache from the Develop menu (⌥⌘E)
(Develop menu - Safari - Settings – Advanced - Show features for web developers https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/ibrw1075/)
or by deleting ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.Safari/Data/Library/Caches

- run OnyX - maintenance – Cleaning Internet https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

- run Safari without extensions by uninstalling them, not just turning them off https://support.apple.com/102343

- Turn off Hide IP address in Safari https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/sfri35610/ and Private Relay https://support.apple.com/102022

- “clean Safari” AppleScript https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/safari-issues.2354917/post-31383169
 
bogdanw said:
From @kenm22's post #4 on May 16, it was obvious that this is not a Safari/macOS problem, but a user configuration issue.

At least consider trying to troubleshot the problem:
- clear Safari's cache from the Develop menu (⌥⌘E)
(Develop menu - Safari - Settings – Advanced - Show features for web developers https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/ibrw1075/)
or by deleting ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.Safari/Data/Library/Caches

- run OnyX - maintenance – Cleaning Internet https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

- run Safari without extensions by uninstalling them, not just turning them off https://support.apple.com/102343

- Turn off Hide IP address in Safari https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/sfri35610/ and Private Relay https://support.apple.com/102022

- “clean Safari” AppleScript https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/safari-issues.2354917/post-31383169
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people tried on clean install of OS and still crashes, what the maintenance you talk about?
 
kohanya said:
people tried on clean install of OS and still crashes, what the maintenance you talk about?
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Read the mentioned post, it doesn't happen on a new user account.
If you "clean install" and use Migration Assistant or Time Machine to restore your data, that's not a clean install.
 
bogdanw said:
Read the mentioned post, it doesn't happen on a new user account.
If you "clean install" and use Migration Assistant or Time Machine to restore your data, that's not a clean install.
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then why dont you make the "cleanest install" and prove your theory than just bla bla bla
 
kohanya said:
then why dont you make the "cleanest install" and prove your theory than just bla bla bla
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Since they were released, I’ve been running Monterey 12.7.5 and Safari 17.5 without any crashes.
I have updated to Monterey 12.7.6 and Safari 17.6 without any issues or crashes.

In post #40 @Woof Woof has identified what appears to have been the cause in his case.

Good luck waiting for Apple to fix your problem.
 
bogdanw said:
Since they were released, I’ve been running Monterey 12.7.5 and Safari 17.5 without any crashes.
I have updated to Monterey 12.7.6 and Safari 17.6 without any issues or crashes.

In post #40 @Woof Woof has identified what appears to have been the cause in his case.

Good luck waiting for Apple to fix your problem.
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link peeking feature and dismissing peeked links works at your safari without any crashes???
thank you
 
Woof Woof said:
I am curious if those of us having the crash issue have something in common outside of the Safari version (17.5+)? For example do you have a VPN client or network tool like LuLu installed? I also have WIPR and the IINA safari extensions.

Safari is crashing on me even when not using the VPN, so I initially eliminated it as a cause. I did notice there is a persistent daemon that is running even when not connected, so I removed my client (well, zipped it up) and force quit the daemon, and haven't had a crash in Safari so far.

I do also have LuLu running in the background to keep an eye on what apps are trying to connect to the net.
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link peeking feature and dismissing peeked links works at your safari without crashing???
thank you
 
bogdanw said:
Since they were released, I’ve been running Monterey 12.7.5 and Safari 17.5 without any crashes.
I have updated to Monterey 12.7.6 and Safari 17.6 without any issues or crashes.

In post #40 @Woof Woof has identified what appears to have been the cause in his case.

Good luck waiting for Apple to fix your problem.
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Both #4 and #40 that you referred to are inconclusive.

#4 had a clean install to not have crash but he didn’t say if try to restore or rebuild to the previous state of his system to reproduce crashes or not.

Then #40 has a very specific set of suspect apps that we can imagine not all of us have the same stuff installed.

I thank you for the input in trying to help but yes, it takes very long winding trouble shooting to pinpoint the cause that hasn’t happened yet in this thread.
 
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