So in April the field-tested them which resulted in the OS that we got. They just fixed the second round of bugs, which may not have been there in the pre 1.0 OS.
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Safari still crashing 1.0.1
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So in April the field-tested them which resulted in the OS that we got. They just fixed the second round of bugs, which may not have been there in the pre 1.0 OS.
I tried recreate the most annoying bug I've had, where the ipod will crash while doing heavy browsing, and so far it seems more stable.
But real world conditions and a quick bug hunt are different things. We'll have to wait a few days into the update before judging how stable the iPhone is compared to 1.0
But real world conditions and a quick bug hunt are different things. We'll have to wait a few days into the update before judging how stable the iPhone is compared to 1.0
Well it worked for a while. iPod is now crashing when I'm surfing. I was on a photo forum when iPod crashed so I restarted it. Came here and iPod died in less than one song.
Still no point in carrying a headset around. Time to reboot
Still no point in carrying a headset around. Time to reboot
While testing an iPhone out in an Apple store I managed to crash it 5 times
Once on the notes app,
3 times on safari
Once on the iPod app
I was really surprised how unstable it was, for how much apple is touting this as amazing, it was seriously buggy
Once on the notes app,
3 times on safari
Once on the iPod app
I was really surprised how unstable it was, for how much apple is touting this as amazing, it was seriously buggy
Safari still crashes on me with 1.0.1
I really wish they'd fix this. It's bad enough having to wait for ever for the page to load the first time...
I really wish they'd fix this. It's bad enough having to wait for ever for the page to load the first time...
No kidding. I'm stuck with IE 6 running on XP at work and it crashes at least twice daily on me. Meanwhile, I've probably had no more than 2 crashes per week at most while using Safari on my iPhone. But then again, I'm not hitting a ton of graphics intensive sites regularly on my iPhone seeing as how it only has a 3.5" screen anyway.
Besides, the iPhone is only at version 1.0.1, so we're still very early in the game here. Meanwhile, Microsoft has had quite a number of years to work on IE, so I agree that it is a rather poor comparison.
Im not sure what the issue is with the folks in this thread. I'm using 1.0.1 and I hardly ever get a hiccup. Maybe once every couple of days Safari will close abruptly but this issue goes away if you power off your phone periodically (not sleep but actually power down) and turn back on. Are people doing this regularly and still having issues?
Your experience is NOT mine
JC4, I would say that you seem to be ANGRY with Apple. Try restoring your phone IF you really have a problem. My experience is that, even with 4 tabs open, I can surf like crazy and experience a crash every few days. Better than most desktop performance out there. The iphone is SOLID bro. I don't know what your expectations are for this thing, but it works as advertised. How someone can mess around with an iphone and not be amazed at its performance is beyond me. This thing is awesome. Most folks, like me, are just hungry for MORE apps/toys on it. You should return your iphone and stick with windoze mobile or some other HOT OS you might find on brand name X phone. I notice LG phones are real popular hunks of junk with every imaginable function, go buy one of them. Have a great user experience.
JC4, I would say that you seem to be ANGRY with Apple. Try restoring your phone IF you really have a problem. My experience is that, even with 4 tabs open, I can surf like crazy and experience a crash every few days. Better than most desktop performance out there. The iphone is SOLID bro. I don't know what your expectations are for this thing, but it works as advertised. How someone can mess around with an iphone and not be amazed at its performance is beyond me. This thing is awesome. Most folks, like me, are just hungry for MORE apps/toys on it. You should return your iphone and stick with windoze mobile or some other HOT OS you might find on brand name X phone. I notice LG phones are real popular hunks of junk with every imaginable function, go buy one of them. Have a great user experience.
Not angry. Disappointed maybe, but anger? Don't try to read tone on the internet, it doesn't work. Maybe my writing style doesn't click with you, but I'm just trying to state facts, not express anger.
It crashes. I've done a restore, with the 1.0 software. iPod is the most common crash on my iPhone, but only when I'm trying to use some other application. Safari crashes. I have never had more than 2 tabs open at once, so I don't think I'm over stressing the browser. I rarely do more than start a play list in iPod, so not stressing it either. If I reboot my phone the crashes don't happen for a while. I got half an hour of surfing and music today before iPod crashed. Then iPod crashed repeatedly after that, with just minor browsing. I've sense rebooted, and gave it a quick try, with no immediate crash. So far it's just like 1.0.
Perhaps I have bad hardware. But, with 1.0 there were enough people having the same iPod crashing issue, that I assumed software, and waited for a patch. It does seem odd that you can hammer on yours with out a crash, and I can't lightly use mine. I'll work on a way to repeat the crashes at will so I can get a replacement, but so far I've found no combination that works, other than time.
P.S. I didn't appreciate you "IF I really have a problem" statement. And, you called me angry?
It crashes. I've done a restore, with the 1.0 software. iPod is the most common crash on my iPhone, but only when I'm trying to use some other application. Safari crashes. I have never had more than 2 tabs open at once, so I don't think I'm over stressing the browser. I rarely do more than start a play list in iPod, so not stressing it either. If I reboot my phone the crashes don't happen for a while. I got half an hour of surfing and music today before iPod crashed. Then iPod crashed repeatedly after that, with just minor browsing. I've sense rebooted, and gave it a quick try, with no immediate crash. So far it's just like 1.0.
Perhaps I have bad hardware. But, with 1.0 there were enough people having the same iPod crashing issue, that I assumed software, and waited for a patch. It does seem odd that you can hammer on yours with out a crash, and I can't lightly use mine. I'll work on a way to repeat the crashes at will so I can get a replacement, but so far I've found no combination that works, other than time.
P.S. I didn't appreciate you "IF I really have a problem" statement. And, you called me angry?
What i want to know is how did apple not come across this problem during all their testing. I mean its not like using your ipod function and surfing the web at the same time is an unusual thing to do with your iphone. Another problem i cant believe they missed is the spell check feature, the damn thing only works when it feels like it!
I get that. But, you already asked questions that brought out details that clearly indicate my intent. You're first response was also a bit on the attack side, but I didn't address it that way because I recognized my first statement was a bit flippant.
Then this applyhappy guy comes out attacking, with the usual zealot answer, go buy something else and get out of my life, type of response. Like I was attacking him personally because my iPhone crashes and I dared mention it in a public forum. His response was uncalled for and of no value to anyone. But, thats just my opinion.
My concern as well. It seems there were way too many people having the iPod crash issue while using safari, for it not to be discovered prior to shipping. Surely the code was sealed a month or more before we got to purchase the iPhone. And, Apple + AT&T folks had their hands on version 1.0 for that month. How could they not have found this issue?
One possibility is hardware and it didn't show up until production. It seems odd that my(and many others) iPhones could have a hardware problem that only affects iPod and Safari. That same bad spot in memory would also occasionally be used by a more critical piece of software and cause the entire phone to lock up or crash, but this hasn't happened(at least not to mine). It still feels like a software issue, except the fact some aren't having any problems.
I'd take the time to visit the Apple store, but the odds of me actually demoing the issue while in front of an Apple person aren't good. Has anyone tried this? Did you get your phone replaced? Was the new one any better?
JohnC
Are you sure they're working on it? There are people here that claim they surf all the time, without iPod crashing. My iTunes has stopped sending reports(only saw it happen twice). Does Apple think there is a bug?
If it was an acknowledged bug, I would think it to be high priority, and fixed with 1.0.1. It wasn't.
If it was an acknowledged bug, I would think it to be high priority, and fixed with 1.0.1. It wasn't.
Considering the MAJOR stability improvements with the first update, I would say they are working very hard on it!
I have had safari crash on me twice since the update (which is fine by me, because before the update I would get 20 a day)
They will not be able to address all the problems with a single update, and your problem may be related to specific sites you visit.
Be patient, apple wont ignore the problems...
One page that consistently crashes for me when I've got the iPod going is boingboing.net... If I let the whole page load, my music dies. Sometimes not right away, but every time I load the page. On occasion, Safari dies soon afterwards and I'm kicked to the main screen.
It happens at random other pages, but it is very easy to reproduce on BoingBoing.net on my phone.
It happens at random other pages, but it is very easy to reproduce on BoingBoing.net on my phone.
Not angry, its just an annoying bug that should be worked out.
Listening to the iPod and surfing in safari seems to be such a common practice, I'm surprised that there are so many crashes. I hate when songs get interrupted for no apparent reason. You'll be surfing a page in safari and all of a sudden the music goes dead. Lame.
Listening to the iPod and surfing in safari seems to be such a common practice, I'm surprised that there are so many crashes. I hate when songs get interrupted for no apparent reason. You'll be surfing a page in safari and all of a sudden the music goes dead. Lame.
This may be true, but you can also reduce the level of crap code in the final product to some extent. The iPhone OS is OS X, with the same kernel, etc. Frameworks are similar, IOKit is the same, most of the drivers are even similar (even though there is only a handful).
If you pull off some of the kernel devs in OS X to stabilize the iPhone kernel, you don't lose (as much) efficiency... The reason why Leopard was delayed was so that the people who knew the OS better than those hired to work on the iPhone project specifically, could provide the help needed.
This isn't quite like taking a Safari dev and having him write driver code. It is more like taking a desktop IOKit dev and having him/her help the iPhone driver team fix/improve their driver.
I've tried it on BoingBoing 3 times and it has not crashed. I'll try a few more times later on ...