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This week is the week that has broken me with Safari; trying to pay my daughter’s university fees, attempting to apply for government money in Luxembourg, trying to upload lesson plans at school. When I enquire to those in authority they all just say that Safari doesn’t work anymore and I should use Chrome or Firefox.
This is pitiful for Apple, and really destabilising, in terms of both history and bookmarks.
Is it now beyond the point of no return??
What they meant but were ashamed to express is that their website was coded to work with Chrome and their devs didn’t bother testing with Safari and, oops, their website no longer works with Safari but they didn’t budget any time for post launch bug fixes so now the problem is yours.
 
This week is the week that has broken me with Safari; trying to pay my daughter’s university fees, attempting to apply for government money in Luxembourg, trying to upload lesson plans at school. When I enquire to those in authority they all just say that Safari doesn’t work anymore and I should use Chrome or Firefox.
This is pitiful for Apple, and really destabilising, in terms of both history and bookmarks.
Is it now beyond the point of no return??
How is this problem of Apple? This is clearly issue of the government and university...
I had similar experience some time ago when required government applications of one of the European countries worked only on Windows. I had to run virtualization and Windows browsers to use them. No macOS, no Linux. Who do I blame? The government for not specifying other OS in their procurement or Apple/Linux community for writing their OS?
I remember times, when we had to have Internet Explorer since specific web sites simply did not work on ANYTHING else. Even my employer internal applications worked only on IE until they had to be retired some time ago.
 
I literally never have issues with Safari. The only thing giving my issues is 1Blocker which is my choice of adblocker, which seems to break a lot of websites. I have started to whitelist more and more websites as my workaround.

But just vanilla Safari having issues? Like how on earth can a university website even be coded to break trying to pay the fee via Safari? What kind of Chrome-specific code is even possible to use for that?
 
Just use Chrome and if your worried about tracking and it being a hog even better use Vivaldi. Firefox is good too. Avoid Edge.
 
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Just use Chrome and if your worried about tracking and it being a hog even better use Vivaldi. Firefox is good too. Avoid Edge.
Why contribute to Googlopoly in the browser space? There are lots of other browsers that work as well as Chrome and are similar or equal performance. Browser performance is rarely the limiting factor in load a page. It’s almost always overloaded severs and limited network connections.

Safari performs well and is stable. The main problems are when devs use Chrome-specific JavaScript and don’t bother to test on other browsers and provide shims to avoid bugs in non-chrome. After all, it works on their machine!
 
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No more issues with Safari than what I am getting with other browsers on Windows and Linux. That is, very very few issues, as most browsers nowadays are pretty solid.

Chrome is actually my least favorite browser. It used to be great, now it's a gigantic resource hog. I much prefer its clones (Brave and Edge), they are actually very good browsers. Edge is what I use on Windows because it's fast, it's stable, it works with pretty much everything, and it has good tools built in. Such as being able to use iCloud passwords via an official Apple extension.

Firefox is good but has the worst compatibility. I am also pissed at Mozilla for promoting internet censorship and firing a bunch of developers while simultaneously jacking up C-suite pay. They are little more than paid pseudo-competition for Google, keeping Chrome from running afoul of antitrust regulators.

Safari is somewhat bland and boring, pretty reliable, and integrated with iPhone / iPad / keychain, so this is what I use on all of my Apple devices. I did try running Edge on Mac and it was a very good experience but just not good enough to give up on integration.
 
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I first used Safari many years ago back in the dark days when I still used Windows. It was the first contact I'd had with any Apple product. I loved it then and I love it now. It's stable and it's private. It is annoying that some websites are not designed to work with it. That it the fault of the organizations behind those sites. I will not use a browser that it not sufficiently private. Firefox is the only other reasonable option, but I prefer Safari. Chrome is Google, Google are anti-privacy and I will not have their spyware on my devices.
 
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