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MrMJS

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Running Mavericks on my 2014 27" iMac. Is it safe to update to Yosemite? Any issues with mail or wifi?
 

leman

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I'd say wit for 10.8.2. Yosemite issues seem to be quite random — it runs like a charm for most, but some users are hit hard with problems. The 10.8.2 should fix at least some of those, increasing the odds that you will have a seamless update.
 

matt9013

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Oct 27, 2013
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It's always been safe to upgrade. This isn't the same as it was for upgrading to Mavericks.
 

jqworle

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Jun 26, 2013
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Bit the bullet and upgraded yesterday, all went well , everything works as before maybe slightly quicker.
 

Silly John Fatty

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Don't upgrade! I haven't upgraded myself and never used it either, but remember one thing: this is an Apple forum so people will (most of the time - but not always) be happy with whatever Apple releases as long as it wears the Apple logo.

If you want a realistic idea of what Yosemite is like, have a look at the ratings and reviews in the App Store. It has 2 and a half stars right now, I think that's pretty bad.

I wanted to upgrade myself but since I use this computer for work, I'll rather leave it. Mavericks is the perfect OS if you ask me, it's so stable and looks perfect too, and has all the features I need at least.
 

KUguardgrl13

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I've been running it since 10.10 on my late-2013 rMBP and the public beta on my mid-2009 MBP. 10.10.1 is very stable for everyday use. They corrected whatever the wifi problem was and have sent out some recent security updates. 10.10.2 should be rock solid. I think Mavericks ran better on my 09, but I believe Yosemite should be the last update it sees. Yosemite runs great on my rMBP. I use it for schoolwork, so stability is important.
 

Sangoma

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Dec 27, 2012
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For me, an upgrade worked nicely for about a week, and then I had a week of needing NVRAM resets and safe starts - a real nightmare. Eventually I decided to do a clean install. That has run beautifully for over a month now.
 

TheEnthusiast

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Aug 22, 2013
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If you use Preview often I'd be cautious. That app is a bit unpredictable with PDFs. PDFs, large ones in particular, may cause the app to freeze or crash; this was not the case with Mavericks. Everything else worked fine for me. In my opinion, only the font is the most appealing of all the visual upgrades. The rest is a bit strange to see, but it grew on me. With all that said, I'm still using Mavericks :D. Unless, you're dying for a new UI or think you may take advantage of the iOS oriented features, then there's no real reason to upgrade.
 

samiwas

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If you want a realistic idea of what Yosemite is like, have a look at the ratings and reviews in the App Store. It has 2 and a half stars right now, I think that's pretty bad.

Yeah, this is what took me. There are as many one-star reviews as there are all other reviews combined. That can't be good.

But here, everyone seems to be saying it works great.

Now...what's the real story??
 

leman

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Oct 14, 2008
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If you want a realistic idea of what Yosemite is like, have a look at the ratings and reviews in the App Store. It has 2 and a half stars right now, I think that's pretty bad.

Now...what's the real story??

I believe (after reading many app-store reviews) that the negative reviews come from people who have had some post-installation issues, such as the very widespread WiFi bug or problems with their applications (many complain about Aperture etc. not working).

Don't forget that people who have issues are much more likely to leave a rating than people who don't. If me, my friends and colleagues who are all quite happy with Yosemite would bother rate it in the Swiss App Store (which no one did, I asked around), then this alone would almost equal out the 5-star to 1-star comment ratio. The ratings surely show that there are issues with Yosemite (which I am sure no one in their own mind would deny), but I do not believe does not reflect the real proportion of users having the problems.

And btw, this is why I would recommend to wait for 10.8.2
 

Silly John Fatty

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I believe (after reading many app-store reviews) that the negative reviews come from people who have had some post-installation issues, such as the very widespread WiFi bug or problems with their applications (many complain about Aperture etc. not working).

Don't forget that people who have issues are much more likely to leave a rating than people who don't. If me, my friends and colleagues who are all quite happy with Yosemite would bother rate it in the Swiss App Store (which no one did, I asked around), then this alone would almost equal out the 5-star to 1-star comment ratio. The ratings surely show that there are issues with Yosemite (which I am sure no one in their own mind would deny), but I do not believe does not reflect the real proportion of users having the problems.

And btw, this is why I would recommend to wait for 10.8.2

If that was the way how it worked, then all apps would only have 1 star in total. Which is not the case since there's a lot of apps that have high ratings!
Of course the reviews are also different from country to country, because people have different taste. In the Austrian store, people seem to hate the design, which I understand. But they also bash the bugs, etc.
 

leman

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If that was the way how it worked, then all apps would only have 1 star in total. Which is not the case since there's a lot of apps that have high ratings!

I don't see why this should be true. First of all, not all apps have bugs that seriously impact interaction with the computer. Second, not many apps have such a big user base. Also, note that the ratings are very polarised: its usually either 5 stars or 1 stars, with not much in between. For me, this is the sign that 1-star givers experience some really annoying issue that goes beyond simple 'like or dislike'.

Let's make a small extrapolation (of course, extremely subjective, but to give us a sense of the numbers we are dealing with here). Yosemite is running on over 30 million computers worldwide (and that is a very conservative estimate). Worldwide, there are around 60000 ratings given for it in the App store (and again, that is quite a conservative estimate, its likely to be less then that). Let's assume that the 1-star ratings outweigh the 5-star ones by 2:1 (not quite true, but definitely favouring the negative rewiews). Which means 40000 1-star reviews. Now, lets assume that 1 in 100 users (1%) that has experienced an issue will give it a 1-star rating. This brings us to around 4 million users with issues, or 13% of the entire install base. It is quite a high number and it clearly shows that Apple has some serious issues with their quality assurance and bug testing. However, its not a total disaster like some sound it to be.

And btw, its exactly contrary to what you say — people on these forums are biased agains the latest updates. For one, because an existence of a forum will draw people that have negative experience, and in addition, because there is a bunch of very loud 'traditionalists' that share a strong dislike of the direction Apple is heading to.
 

AndreSt

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yosemite works 1000 times better than mavericks

No it doesn't. There're dozens of more or less serious issues.

I personally do not have WiFi problems. But those who are plagued with them are having a real hard time. I cannot remember a disaster like that. Apple is the one that has to act now. I'd like to see a fix for the WiFi problem and other serious issues of Yosemite soon!
 

Queen6

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Seems to be a mixed bag, have updated the majority Mac`s in the house and no major problems, graphically it can be sluggish at time on the Retina`s, equally Apple will improve on the OS over time same all others.

Not blown away by Yosemite, it does have aspects I like and I don't have the urge or need to revert back to Mavericks, so will likely stick with 10.10 unless it gives me any problems. Anyway it`s the cycle Apple have every-time a new OS is released there are issues and it takes them time to figure it out.

Personally would rather Apple reverted to a 24 month cycle for Mac`s OS and give themselves more time to ensure stability for all, as I don't see the benefit of OS X updating so rapidly and it might just save on frustrating
some users.

Q-6
 
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ABC5S

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Did a clean install of the OS X and clean install, no back ups of my programs and all has been running smoothly.. Including WiFi. I did change the DNS and I switched to a better Channel. All fine
 

grahamperrin

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Some OS X Yosemite Users Still Experiencing Wi-Fi Connection Issues … (orientation)

… issues with … wifi?

Various reports of problems with Wi-Fi, most notably:

Mavericks here. 2009 MacBookPro5,2.
 

MrMJS

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Mar 11, 2014
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I ended up doing the upgrade on two of my iMacs without issue.. I agree that apple needs to do a 24 month cycle on OS updates
 

gmanist1000

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Running Mavericks on my 2014 27" iMac. Is it safe to update to Yosemite? Any issues with mail or wifi?

My rMBP still has crazy Wi-Fi issues. I'd wait until 10.10.2

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I ended up doing the upgrade on two of my iMacs without issue.. I agree that apple needs to do a 24 month cycle on OS updates

Nevermind, just saw this post.

Hopefully 10.10.2 comes out soon!
 
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