Wi-Fi is working fine on all my Macs. The one iMace is a 2009 and everything seems to run fine.
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Wi-Fi is working fine on all my Macs. The one iMace is a 2009 and everything seems to run fine.
To anyone that hasn't yet upgraded to Yosemite:
If you are reading this and haven't yet updated, WAIT for 10.10.3. That was the rule of thumb I used to use and I recommend waiting. Mavericks was less issues, and I updated right away since it was free, but, don't do that this time. I have, and wish I could have waited.
Some people have various WiFi & BT issues, since these are basic functions, it can be problematic for these people. It's generally buggy for me, for one example: simple things like highlighting text on website will very often not work right, it highlights from cursor to top of text and takes me to top of web page
annoying.
Yeah, Yosemite is faster in most respects, but, just like many Mac OS X upgrades, not really ready for full consumption. Unfortunately Apple is recommending people update, despite it's bugs.
The other consideration, is to make sure all the apps you use have been updated and work well with Yosemite before upgrading.
The other option, (I highly recommend), if you have a spare drive, is to install separately rather than upgrade, so you can boot to Mavericks if Yo is having issues. Once 10.10.3 is out, you can put it on your main drive.
I have used every version of Mac OS X, and, generally, have fared better waiting for 10.x.3 before upgrading. (This not only gives Apple time to work out bugs and make it more stable, but, also gives developers time to update apps.) The only exception would be Mavericks. ...Snow Leopard 10.6.8 is still, by far, the fastest most stable Mac OS X to date. Yosemite might match or beat it for speed, but, not stability. Alas, Snow Leopard does not work with Fusion drives, and has less iCloud abilities. And Apple seems to have stopped giving security updates to Snow Leopard and Lion, only offering them for last 3 generations of OS X.
*I ALSO RECOMMEND UPGRADING/MAXING OUT RAM FIRST. I read where people going from 4GB to 16GB with Yosemite have the fans spinning up less and it operates faster. (OWC has option to upgrade some 2010 MBP 13 (MacBookPro7,1) to 16GB even though apple says 8 is max.) --Apple may say only 4GB is required for Yo, but, 16GB RAM seems to be where it begins to work best. (8GB will be better than 4, but, get more if your machine can take it.) In fact, I wonder if some of my bugs are really just not enough RAM to give the OS "room to breathe". I had hoped for a big sale on the 16GB RAM, but, no such luck, RAM prices just won't come down this year, so, tax refund time next year....(2015 begins tomorrow already!).
If you are reading this and haven't yet updated, WAIT for 10.10.3. That was the rule of thumb I used to use and I recommend waiting. Mavericks was less issues, and I updated right away since it was free, but, don't do that this time. I have, and wish I could have waited.
Some people have various WiFi & BT issues, since these are basic functions, it can be problematic for these people. It's generally buggy for me, for one example: simple things like highlighting text on website will very often not work right, it highlights from cursor to top of text and takes me to top of web page
annoying.Yeah, Yosemite is faster in most respects, but, just like many Mac OS X upgrades, not really ready for full consumption. Unfortunately Apple is recommending people update, despite it's bugs.
The other consideration, is to make sure all the apps you use have been updated and work well with Yosemite before upgrading.
The other option, (I highly recommend), if you have a spare drive, is to install separately rather than upgrade, so you can boot to Mavericks if Yo is having issues. Once 10.10.3 is out, you can put it on your main drive.
I have used every version of Mac OS X, and, generally, have fared better waiting for 10.x.3 before upgrading. (This not only gives Apple time to work out bugs and make it more stable, but, also gives developers time to update apps.) The only exception would be Mavericks. ...Snow Leopard 10.6.8 is still, by far, the fastest most stable Mac OS X to date. Yosemite might match or beat it for speed, but, not stability. Alas, Snow Leopard does not work with Fusion drives, and has less iCloud abilities. And Apple seems to have stopped giving security updates to Snow Leopard and Lion, only offering them for last 3 generations of OS X.
*I ALSO RECOMMEND UPGRADING/MAXING OUT RAM FIRST. I read where people going from 4GB to 16GB with Yosemite have the fans spinning up less and it operates faster. (OWC has option to upgrade some 2010 MBP 13 (MacBookPro7,1) to 16GB even though apple says 8 is max.) --Apple may say only 4GB is required for Yo, but, 16GB RAM seems to be where it begins to work best. (8GB will be better than 4, but, get more if your machine can take it.) In fact, I wonder if some of my bugs are really just not enough RAM to give the OS "room to breathe". I had hoped for a big sale on the 16GB RAM, but, no such luck, RAM prices just won't come down this year, so, tax refund time next year....(2015 begins tomorrow already!).
After giving Yosemite a chance for 2 months, I finally reverted my late 2008 MBP back to Mavericks. Overall experience is much smoother and faster on my machine.
I did the same on my Macbook Unibody 2008 which I installed a 256 Crucial SSD and 8GB RAM. I had Yosemite from day one of its launch but its been nothing but two months of pain and frustration; constant spinning beachballs, crashing and grindingly slow operation.
I used Time Machine to take me back to Mavericks and its such a sweet experience. I do miss the look of Yosemite and answering calls on my Macbook but its nothing compared to actually being able to use my computer again.
If you have the same model as I do then i suggest keeping clear of Yosemite.
Same here. I know I said this on so many different threads but I'm back on Mavericks and couldn't be happier with the decision. I tried Yosemite for maybe a month or so but the amount of UI lag, bugs with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth etc just killed the whole experience.
Personally, I was neutral about Yosemite's appearance; I did think answering calls on my MBP was pretty cool but, as you point out, not worth having my machine be so slow.
I like Yosemite. It does have some issues as have all OS X updates, but some issues are to be expected.
I don't agree with the idea of reversion to a 24 month cycle. What I would rather see is a non-timed cycle in which updates come when they are stable enough to be released, be that considerably more or considerably less than 24 months.
I like the idea of Apple bringing the user the newest technology as soon as possible, but not before it is stable. So, if there is a one year cycle with stability, fine; if it is two or more years with stability, a bit less fine, but o.k.
What is problematic is that stability is relative. Much depends on how the user has set up his or her Mac, glitches in installation, and other factors not controllable by Apple. However, some are controllable by Apple and those need to be addressed before any update is released.
In any case regarding Yosemite, Apple should consider the needs of the majority of its users, for whom Yosemite is stable.
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Personally I think that Apple needs more time to fully develop the OS, the timescale is not relevant, equally the result is....
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I ran it for a while on a Mini with 4GB. It actually ran fine with a large number of Safari tabs, Word and iTunes open. Memory pressure was +/- 20%ish IIRC.
Thats why Im NOT upgrading, but staying on Mavericks. I have too little time and patience to have to be dealing with many of the problems/issues highlighted on other forums apart from this one
I still think that Yosemite is a ported "IOS8 to Desktop OS. Maybe im wrong but I guess each is entitled to their own opinion.
Thats what they say about Windows 8 due to Metro/tiles. It just doesn't run like a dog.
I agree. In any case, I'm more concerned with the decline in Hardware than Software --I know that's a different thread. With all the bells and whistles in newer Macs, I don't like having batteries glued in or having parts that can't be repaired. At least problems with an OS can be repaired.
I have had no issues with Time Machine. What exactly is going on?
That is an opinion, not based on fact.
iOS 1.0 was built off the Mac OS X core (not the whole OS, just the core).
iOS and OS X are built separately. Interoperability is easier because they are built off the same (UNIX-based) core, but, they do not share "platforms" like cars, they are built separately. (Just ask any app developer.)
OS X 10.10 Yosemite is most definitely not built off iOS 8. Surely the OS teams collaborate so that interoperability works, but, despite some rumors, Apple is not going to merge iOS & OS X, but, they will continue to make them work together well.
Don't get me wrong (my previous post in this thread), Yosemite is a definite improvement, but, as with iOS 8, the yearly upgrades is just not realistic, they should go back to releasing products when ready instead of trying to make it for every holiday season (my opinion). I'm just suggesting, for those who haven't upgraded yet, to wait for 10.10.3, then most bugs should be ironed out...that's been the pattern for every OS X release, with the exception of Mavericks, it had less issues from the start.
Dude I know my opinion is not based on fact, I am looking at it from a different angle i.e UI.. thats all my everyday job is to thrash, smash and break apps