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If you don't beat around the bush and go straight to asking how to visit those sites safely, you will get better answers. It is normal to watch porn. Also, it is good to learn more about privacy and security.

Note: I am not a security expert, so treat my advice with a grain of salt:

1. Use VPN,
2. Go into Incognito mode.
3. Safer browser, maybe Tor or DuckDuckGo?
4. If you are on your desktop, create an account that doesn't have admin privileges.

Maybe it is not the safest out there, that's why I have manual encrypted backups on both physical hard drives and cloud storage. Also, I always hard reset my machine once a year.
 

Fat_Guy

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If you don't beat around the bush and go straight to asking how to visit those sites safely, you will get better answers. It is normal to watch porn. Also, it is good to learn more about privacy and security.

Note: I am not a security expert, so treat my advice with a grain of salt:

1. Use VPN,
2. Go into Incognito mode.
3. Safer browser, maybe Tor or DuckDuckGo?
4. If you are on your desktop, create an account that doesn't have admin privileges.

Maybe it is not the safest out there, that's why I have manual encrypted backups on both physical hard drives and cloud storage. Also, I always hard reset my machine once a year.

Using Tor can raise a red flag on you depending on where you live. I would just avoid Tor altogether unless you are a journalist and have a “gold star” beside your name anyway…
 

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Using Tor can raise a red flag on you depending on where you live. I would just avoid Tor altogether unless you are a journalist and have a “gold star” beside your name anyway…
That's why I said maybe. Some people use it to browse Dark Web, so I believe it could at least have some protection.
 

ian87w

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If you don't beat around the bush and go straight to asking how to visit those sites safely, you will get better answers. It is normal to watch porn. Also, it is good to learn more about privacy and security.

Note: I am not a security expert, so treat my advice with a grain of salt:

1. Use VPN,
2. Go into Incognito mode.
3. Safer browser, maybe Tor or DuckDuckGo?
4. If you are on your desktop, create an account that doesn't have admin privileges.

Maybe it is not the safest out there, that's why I have manual encrypted backups on both physical hard drives and cloud storage. Also, I always hard reset my machine once a year.
VPN and incognito mode is more for privacy/censorship reason imo, not necessarily security.

I do agree that having a standard account for day to day use instead of admin is a good baseline, and imo should be the standard of practice.

Hard resetting your machines yearly imo is more of a hassle/hobby for yourself. 😂
 

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forgive my ignorance, but isn't a hard reset just a reset initiated by hardware, so meaning a shutdown, followed by a cold start at best?
 

ian87w

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forgive my ignorance, but isn't a hard reset just a reset initiated by hardware, so meaning a shutdown, followed by a cold start at best?
Depends. On a modern/mobile devices, the term reset would imply resetting the device to factory. I'm guessing that was what the other person meant.
 

Ericdjensen

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Get an adblocker and stick to the mainstream sites and you’ll be fine. I’m probably addicted to be honest and my phone is perfectly fine
 

cuzo

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Safest approach which applies to anything other than mainstream web browsing:

1. Don't use your phone, use a Mac.
2. Install Firefox
3. Install uBlock Origin in Firefox
4. Use that

Rationale is it keeps your primary browser away from the potentially dangerous stuff and the ad blocking capabilities of uBlock Origin on Firefox are second to none. And you can keep your credential stores away from it easily.

Don't download anything. If you want to pull videos down use https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp not any weird browser extensions that require an app to be installed.
Brave browser blocks alot of exploits too, the firefox version on Apple doesn't allow extensions.. so that's the best bet.
 
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VPN and incognito mode is more for privacy/censorship reason imo, not necessarily security.

I do agree that having a standard account for day to day use instead of admin is a good baseline, and imo should be the standard of practice.

Hard resetting your machines yearly imo is more of a hassle/hobby for yourself. 😂
It is indeed a hassle to do that every year, but I notice lots of good things, like better performance, and unbloated any unnecessary files. Also, if any sketchy apps are downloaded and run in the background, they will be removed as well.
 

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forgive my ignorance, but isn't a hard reset just a reset initiated by hardware, so meaning a shutdown, followed by a cold start at best?
Meant to say Factory Setting/Erase All Contents and Settings. Sorry for my half-awake typo.
 

hunter01

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I apologize first off for the topic, but we are adults and figured I’d ask straight up.

My friends and I got together yesterday for a New Years Eve Eve dinner and the topic came up about Adult Websites. One friend mentioned they don’t visit adult pornography sites at all, while two other friends admitted they visit adult websites on occasion such as when for example their spouse is out of town for a week. Another one of our friends admitted they pay a monthly subscription for an adult website that allows them to download 4K videos and not deal with any ads.

Personally I haven’t visit porn websites since the days of Limewire and Kazza but have admitted to visiting the major free sites a few times a year (*******, Xvideos).

The reason I’m writing this thread in the first place:

The reason I don’t visit those is cause I always feared that visiting adult pornography sites, aside from not being healthy overall for the male mind, is that I truly believe visiting those websites will slow my iPhone down. I don’t know if the websites inject some sort of code or malware or just extra unnecessary files that clog up and slow down my phone.

I know the overall best answer is to just not ever visit adult websites and couldn’t help but feel astonished that the one guy in our group who pays the monthly subscription for pornography probably doesn’t slow his phone down since he’s visiting (probably) a secure website.

On the other hand, I’ve heard that the major free sites such as ******* are pretty safe…. Yet I still avoid ever visiting *******.

Heck, even if a porn pop up ad appeared anywhere during my browsing I would probably freak out and immediately close it for fear of it slowing down my phone.

I post this specifically for iPhone cause for some reason everyone at dinner yesterday agreed that they never these adult websites on anything other than their iPhones for quite sometime now.

I feel the answers are most likely; 1. Don’t ever visit these adult sites, 2. Pay for a premium monthly subscription and only visit secured sites free from external ads and bloatware, 3. Trust only some free Reputable sites such as *******, 4. Just search TikTok for girls dancing in skimpy outfits as it’s practically softcore at this point.
I visit this kind of sites with my iPad and I watch only streaming contents, I never download anything from those sites.
I visit mainstream sites like PH, Xvid... as smaller sites with more specific contents, for all of this I use the private tab on Safari to avoid that I find those sites synced with my Mac or iPhone and I enjoy the content paying attention to the ADV, if I mistakenly touch an ADV I quickly close the new opened tab and get back with my stuff.

I don't use any kind of VPN, I don't care if my ISP discover that I watch p**n stuff, doing what I just say I never experienced slowdowns with my iPad or other problems related to visiting this sites.
 

BenGoren

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So, apparently your definition of “certain” sites is what’s euphemistically labeled “adult” content.

But that’s far from the only type of site which, for whatever reason, causes concern to people. For example, in China right now, you probably want to be really careful about visiting sites that feature pictures of people holding up blank pieces of paper, regardless of their state of undress.

There are a few broad categories of things to be concerned about. Going from least- to most-worrisome, we have:

Garden-variety malware. It sounds like this is what you’re worried about. However, iOS is pretty well hardened these days against “in-the-wild” exploits, and Apple is really good about patching vulnerabilities and cleaning up messes. Unless you’re actively doing stuff to your own phone to put it at risk, there’s nothing to worry about. The most likely thing you’d do is jailbreak your own phone; also not uncommon is installing a signing certificate such as what companies legitimately do to distribute their own in-house software. So long as you stick to the Apple Store and use a bit of common sense, you’ll be fine. (Yes, there’s some shady stuff on the Apple Store which Apple should be ashamed of for not keeping out, which is why you still need some common sense.)

User tracking. This is something you should be concerned about — and not just at “certain” sites. If you’ve ever had the disturbing experience of searching for something and then being relentlessly followed by advertisements related to that search, you have a vague idea of what’s at stake. More scary are the stories of, for example, parents of teens being shown advertisements for gifts grandparents should get for new grandbabies not long after the teens have posted on supposedly-private social media. As far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t matter whether what I’m doing online is something I’d be happy to have simulcast on the giant screens in Times Square and Tokyo or if it’s my deepest, darkest secrets; I don’t want anybody to know what I’m doing with my computing devices unless I tell them. The good news, though, is that, as a practical matter, you can first use Safari to turn on private browsing; then “Manage Website Data” to delete everything; and ever after only ever surf the Web that way. Be sure to, every now and again (and more often initially), check “Manage Website Data” to be sure that you didn’t accidentally open a non-private window. Don’t use anything other than Safari to visit Web sites; browsers included in apps don’t respect private browsing (and, of course, the apps themselves don’t even pretend to be private). Again, to emphasize: this is for all your browsing, all day, every day, all the time; not just when you visit “certain” sites.

Third-party surveillance. This would, first and foremost, be your ISP (including phone carrier); secondarily, it would be your ISP’s upstream provider (your ISP’s ISP); and, in many cases (especially China), your government. When using your work’s network, it’s your employer — which should be especially worrisome; Pepsi employees have been fired for being seen holding a Coke bottle and vice-versa. When you’re at the airport on public WiFi, it’s everybody at the terminal. However, if you have the option to turn on iCloud Private Relay, then this is a complete non-issue. Yes, Apple would be able to watch what you’re doing, but you’ve already made the decision to trust them by buying one of their devices in the first place. If you don’t have the option for iCloud Private Relay, then you might be able to use a VPN to the same effect … but use extreme caution. The VPN provider would be able to see everything you do, and, in some jurisdictions (not to pick on China, but …) using something like that can, itself, be a giant red flag. Much more potent than a VPN is the Tor network; with that, your privacy is guaranteed, but you’re also much more likely to draw attention to yourself by using it.

Government surveillance. Pretty much every government is spying on people these days — and not just on their own citizens. Governments have all the same tools that companies do, of course; but private browsing plus iCloud Private relay will foil those. What you need to consider are the tools that governments have that companies don’t. In the States, the most formidable of these is a search warrant. In China, your phone might be seized, searched, and returned with undetectable-to-you spyware. In Japan during the height of pandemic, new arrivals (and, with exceedingly rare exceptions, only Japanese citizens were allowed in) were required to install a location-tracking app and keep it active during a two-week in-home quarantine or face nasty legal consequences. But, in any country, there are perfectly legal resources for the government to hide cameras and microphones in your house, for example. And we know that “Pegasus” is a real thing. And, for that matter, there’s little if anything stopping a corrupt official in any government from sending angry men with rubber hoses to “ask you a few questions,” or worse. I can’t offer you any advice about how to protect yourself from a government, nor on how to figure out how likely it is that you’re a target. The good news is that, in general, governments have very limited resources for the really nasty forms of surveillance and it’s rather unlikely that anybody on MacRumors is valuable enough (to a government) for this kind of “attention.” The bad news, of course, is that even one person at risk creates an intolerable chilling burden on the entire society.

Your family. Chances are outstanding that you live with the people with both the greatest motive and most reachable means to spy on you. They’re also the ones who would hurt you the worst if they betrayed your trust. If your relationships are healthy, keep them that way. If you’re being abused by a family member, seek help and best of luck; you’ll need lots and lots and lots of both. And if you’re abusing a family member, first recognize just how horrible a monster you’ve become, and then seek help to stop. Coming clean will hurt you terribly, but nowhere near as bad as you’re hurting your family. You can’t do anything about the horrible damage you’ve already caused, but at least you can stop making things worse.

Hope this helps and puts some perspective on the matter.

Cheers,

b&
 

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iPhones and Safari are on their own already pretty safe, no need to worry something gets on your phone you don’t want. They also protect a fair amount of data from the websites to be read and used in whatever way. But for extra protection you can use a VPN in addition to private relay, if you wanna be quadruple secure.
Add a robust anti ad and whatever, like AdGuard, and you’re good to go.
 

BenGoren

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But for extra protection you can use a VPN in addition to private relay, if you wanna be quadruple secure.

Computer security generally doesn’t work that way.

There are two ways it can go: you layer things correctly or incorrectly.

If you layer things incorrectly, your security is only as strong as your weakest link — in which case you’re typically super-screwed.

If you layer things correctly, your strongest layer is the only one that matters. An adversary who can break that can bust through your less-strong layers with ease. At best, you’re just annoying yourself and wasting your own time, effort, and money. In reality, you’re opening yourself up to a much higher chance of layering things incorrectly, making you screwed.

I have a cousin who’s a very highly experienced climbing instructor and guide. He likes to say, “If you can’t tie a knot, tie a lot.” And that’s perfect advice for ropes; you really want to know how to tie a knot correctly, but, if you’re stuck, making the rope go every crazy which way is much better than incorrectly tying a proper knot. It also closely mirrors our everyday intuition, which is generally reliable. If your door lock is busted and you need to keep the invaders out, nail every board you have and pile up the furniture.

Cryptography, on the other hand, works pretty much the exact opposite way. Do it right, or don’t try to fool yourself.

Why?

In everyday security, you mostly don’t need to “outrun the bear,” as the joke goes; you just need to outrun the slowest person being chased by the bear. Somebody who kicks every door on the block seeing which he can kick in isn’t going to kick very many doors before being locked behind bars for a very long time. But, on the Internet, we have massive leeches everywhere that attach themselves to the smallest patch of exposed skin. And, just like you can’t feel a mosquito until long after it bites you, you’re generally completely unaware of what sort of nasty things the leeches are doing.

For most people in the Apple ecosystem, if you want a reasonably secure life online, that means Safari, private browsing, “Manage Website Data” to delete everything, iCloud Private relay on, don’t access Web sites any other way, and recognize that, if you tell someplace your identity (such as by logging in), they’ll remember who you are and what you do.

If you need more than that, you shouldn’t be taking your security from random Internet commenters; instead, give yourself a solid computer security education. Ideally, take some courses from an accredited university; if that’s not realistic, at least look up the syllabus of one and read all the required textbooks. Or find somebody with that sort of background whom you actually do trust with your life and don’t second-guess that person.

Cheers,

b&
 

astorre

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Okay so for me it’s not about what I may see on these adult free porn sites. To me this is about slowing down my iPhone. I’d much rather completely 100% percent avoid porn websites if in any way they slow down my phone. And so far I get the feeling that free websites, especially those that allow you to both download videos and also are riddled with ads are the culprits in slowing down my
iPhone.
Specifically what I’ve noticed is my iPhone will work at 100% and then after a few weeks of visiting these free adult sites and downloading videos onto my iPhone the phone itself will get slow and even opening apps and even typing is laggy.

I just restored my iPhone today and haven’t visited and adult websites and my iPhone is running completely
Smoothly. Admittedly I did visit RedGifs.com but just viewing gifs I feel pretty safe.

If I was to visit all the adult websites again now and download then I’m confident in a week or two my iPhone would become sluggish again.

jesus dude, are you just watching videos online or are you clicking on every malware ad that says "latinas nearby waiting for you"?

this slowing down your iPhone thing is 100% in your head (unless you are watching questionable stuff on borderline illegal sites), how about when you feel like your phone is getting slow you restart it instead of restoring it and then you will feel like its not laggy anymore? because you had 10000 apps and tabs opened before restart?

also why are you downloading things when you are so scared? just stream it in incognito + adblock + VPN and thats it

stick with the popular websites and there is nothing to fear, if there was, the news would spread and they would loose money so its no worth it to them

but from your posts I have a feeling that you are not watching/downloading legal stuff and you are scared that you will be tracked by authorites
 
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jaytv111

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Now I need to do a double blind test, one phone reset and no porn visited on it, one reset then all the porn visited on it, then see if a person can tell a difference in slowness.
 
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