Samsung batteries exposed

[jamezr]

Do you think owning Apple products precludes you from having a pro-Samsung bias? It doesn’t… at all…

Loyalty? Insecurity? You are seriously projecting here, recognizing Samsung most likely has a significant long-term battery issue doesn’t elevate Apple or tear-down Samsung.

but it does let me see things from a different perspective than others. I actually use other things than just apple products. It doesn't make me a better apple fan to put down samsung.

Then I am a regular here in the alternative section....I am not just a drive by complainer that wants to throw shade at a product they have no interntion of owning or buying.

Whats does that say about a person that does that......

 

[jamezr]

More whataboutisms - a fallacy

Singular examples a case do not make; however, several long term collections consisting of many brands exhibiting only Samsung batteries failing with high frequency most certainly does.

Just to be clear here: a case doesn’t mean a conclusion.
But it’s a start

at start of what exactly? Some huge scandal for Samsung over phone batteries? This will all be gone tomorrow when this issues dies....there is no scandal...Samsung is not doomed..... Will you come back to this section and admit you were wrong?

 

[bc 08]

at start of what exactly? Some huge scandal for Samsung over phone batteries? This will all be gone tomorrow when this issues dies....there is no scandal...Samsung is not doomed..... Will you come back to this section and admit you were wrong?

More than likely it’s the start of more people coming forward and the issue snowballing, creating a publicity problem for Samsung over the next several months to a year and forcing Samsung to commit to a putting a higher emphasis on the quality of their battery selection.

No scandal? You might be right and you might be wrong, what you’re expressing here wishful thinking and little else.

No, Samsung is not doomed… they are too big to fail. Samsung could weather shutting down their entire mobile electronics divisions.

 

[mi7chy]

Swollen battery only happens with Samsung...

 

[sunking101]

I’m just going off what experts have said… why argue with me over it. I keep a battery pack to avoid going below 40%, but this is my method of charging and it doesn’t stress me out.

Heck, there’s gotta be a reason why Apple gives you an alert at 30% and Samsung provides a toggle to limit charging to 85% to extend lifespan of the battery.

Perhaps they're just putting features in to appease folk like you? I don't doubt that babying the batteries helps eek out a bit more longevity. However, don't you think that if Apple made the batteries easily user-replaceable via a slide-in slot like a SIM tray that it would solve all of these battery issues overnight? We could all slide in a brand new $25-50 battery every 18 mobths and beat the hell out of them without a care in the world. If Apple really gave a solitary damn about our battery longevity then they would do this.

It wasn't all that long ago that every battery-powered device had easily user-replaceable batteries and please don't come back with the 'water resistance' thing because they still manage to have SIM trays and SD card trays on IP68-rated phones. My old Nikon NIKONOS-V underwater camera has a battery I can remove in less than 5 seconds and yet the camera is rated for 50m SCUBA diving. My 300m diving watch has a screwback case that with the right tool can be removed in less than 5 seconds. Neither of these devices are glued together or require partial destruction in order to get to the battery...

 

[Awesomesince86]

The amount of Samsung apologist here actually surprises me. If this video were about Apple you lot would be all over it. Don’t move the goalposts just because it’s an Android OEM with the issue.

And before you say it, yes this can and has happened to phones from any manufacturer that uses lithium ion. But to use that as a deflection technique when it clearly happens to Samsung smartphone by a disproportionate amount is a joke. And let’s not pretend this is the first issue Samsung phones have had with batteries.

 

[ian87w]

The amount of Samsung apologist here actually surprises me. If this video were about Apple you lot would be all over it. Don’t move the goalposts just because it’s an Android OEM with the issue.

And before you say it, yes this can and has happened to phones from any manufacturer that uses lithium ion. But to use that as a deflection technique when it clearly happens to Samsung smartphone by a disproportionate amount is a joke. And let’s not pretend this is the first issue Samsung phones have had with batteries.

I’m not going to defend Samsung when the time comes, but I will take anything that MrOppoShill said with a huge amount of salt.

If this was Apple, Apple would immediately provide a response that people are charging the iPhones wrong, and then silently put a service program. Compared to Apple, Samsung definitely needs to do a better job instead of letting twitter steering the conversation.

 

[sunking101]

The amount of Samsung apologist here actually surprises me. If this video were about Apple you lot would be all over it. Don’t move the goalposts just because it’s an Android OEM with the issue.

And before you say it, yes this can and has happened to phones from any manufacturer that uses lithium ion. But to use that as a deflection technique when it clearly happens to Samsung smartphone by a disproportionate amount is a joke. And let’s not pretend this is the first issue Samsung phones have had with batteries.

So far out of 5 Samsung devices and 5 years of use I have personally experienced a zero percent occurrence of battery bloating/swelling/exploding, or indeed any other hardware faults.

With the four iPhones I have owned two developed yellow blotches on the screens after between 12 and 18 months of use, and one had loose volume buttons out of the box which felt horribly cheap. So three incidences of sub-standard hardware and from my own personal experience of both brands Samsung are the clear winners when it comes to (a lack of) hardware issues and poor QC.

 

[Ludatyk]

The amount of Samsung apologist here actually surprises me. If this video were about Apple you lot would be all over it. Don’t move the goalposts just because it’s an Android OEM with the issue.

There’s a post regarding swelling battery targeting only Samsung devices and we haven’t seen any statistically data to prove this? And you think Samsung users are expected to agree that this is a problem that Samsung needs to address when Samsung themselves hasn’t acknowledged it. I’m curious… what are you expecting?

I like Apple, Samsung, Microsoft and Google… I use all their services and hardware. And if there’s an issue with Apple I will be balanced in my thoughts in the same manner with any other company.

 

[russell_314]

The amount of Samsung apologist here actually surprises me. If this video were about Apple you lot would be all over it. Don’t move the goalposts just because it’s an Android OEM with the issue.

I don’t think so. Sure there are some Samsung and android fans hanging out in these forms just to poke fun at Apple or defend Android. I don’t think that’s the majority of people saying this is not a confirmed issue.

My feelings about Samsung are neutral to negative if I had to rate them. I have a Samsung phone that’s terrible and had a Samsung tablet that was also terrible. I think the only decent Samsung product I’ve owned is a Chromebook. It was cheap and actually met my expectations, even though they weren’t very high. The point is I’m not a fan of Samsung and I still don’t think this is anything but some YouTube guy trying to get views. I actually like that guy on YouTube and watch his videos because they’re really entertaining. Even when he pokes fun at something he doesn’t whine like LTT so it’s not as annoying.

The facts are we have a few YouTube content creators with expanded Samsung phones. The first issue here is these phones are not being used in anything close to a normal user situation. No one buys a new phone, tests it out really good and then put it on a wooden rack. Secondly, the sample size is just too small to determine anything.

Any phone battery can swell. The question here is do Samsung phone batteries swell more often than other brands? Does this swelling happen more often for regular use or just the specific use case of YouTube reviewers? You also have to leave out the whole Note 7 thing for failure rates because that is one design that’s not directly related to any other product and it was recalled.

When it comes down to it, we just don’t have enough data to determine if the batteries fail more often. The only determination you might be able to make is they are not catching on fire like they were with the Note 7 situation because that clearly shows how fast the situation was identified. This is not happening with their other phones so we know this.

It’s okay not to like a brand but to believe something bad because someone said it without any proof is just confirmation bias. If that’s what makes you happy, then go for it because I’m sure I’m guilty of that sometimes. What I would like to see in the situation is some real investigation and evidence, because if this is a danger than it needs to be addressed quickly!

 

[jamezr]

More than likely it’s the start of more people coming forward and the issue snowballing, creating a publicity problem for Samsung over the next several months to a year and forcing Samsung to commit to a putting a higher emphasis on the quality of their battery selection.

No scandal? You might be right and you might be wrong, what you’re expressing here wishful thinking and little else.

No, Samsung is not doomed… they are too big to fail. Samsung could weather shutting down their entire mobile electronics divisions.

That is your opinion and pure speculation or wishful thinking on your part. One YT video is not a scandal or ANY of the things you listed here.
I will go out on a limb here and go on record that is will die on the vine. the only people perpetuating this falsehood is Apple fans who hate Samsung and have that underlying agenda as their motive.

The fact that the original poster and you are never ever in the atternative section except to post soemthing negative about Samsung speaks voulmes for your motives.


There is much to do about nothing here.....

So lets see in the coming days when all of this goes aways and dies off it you will come back and admit you were wrong.

 

[jimmy_uk]

So Samsung had the whole Note 7 fiasco...they owned up to it took a HUGE financial and reputation hit.
Then they were able to go into minute detail (just Google it if you want to know) what the reason the batteries failed.

But they had to do this legally. No prizes for taking responsibility for making a consumer device that can exploded and kill.

And yes, Apple have been shady with their responsibilitys to making safe and non-faulty products, helped by support from the USA government/law makers. They would rather deny and fix quietly after first trying to blame the consumer and charge them for repair costs.

 

[jamezr]

The amount of Samsung apologist here actually surprises me. If this video were about Apple you lot would be all over it. Don’t move the goalposts just because it’s an Android OEM with the issue.

And before you say it, yes this can and has happened to phones from any manufacturer that uses lithium ion. But to use that as a deflection technique when it clearly happens to Samsung smartphone by a disproportionate amount is a joke. And let’s not pretend this is the first issue Samsung phones have had with batteries.

Pure BS......the OP and others here are just trying to post negative things about Samsung...

Everyone here including you can see their motives ecatly for what they are.
To suggest anything different is dumb to be blunt.
Then you also know better...shame on you to bandwqagon the trolls

 

[jamezr]

There’s a post regarding swelling battery targeting only Samsung devices and we haven’t seen any statistically data to prove this? And you think Samsung users are expected to agree that this is a problem that Samsung needs to address when Samsung themselves hasn’t acknowledged it. I’m curious… what are you expecting?

I like Apple, Samsung, Microsoft and Google… I use all their services and hardware. And if there’s an issue with Apple I will be balanced in my thoughts in the same manner with any other company.

Is this was a true controvery it would be all of the internet and covered by every Youtuber on the planet.
Everyone would want to get their video out with this happening so they could gett he clicks and page hits and advertising dollars.

 

[jamezr]

But they had to do this legally. No prizes for taking responsibility for making a consumer device that can exploded and kill.

And yes, Apple have been shady with their responsibilitys to making safe and non-faulty products, helped by support from the USA government/law makers. They would rather deny and fix quietly after first trying to blame the consumer and charge them for repair costs.

no they could have denied it covered it up as other have done when issues have arose with their phones.
As you said others deny deny and make people go above and beyond to prove what they already know to be true.

 

[bc 08]

Pure BS......the OP and others here are just trying to post negative things about Samsung...

Everyone here including you can see their motives ecatly for what they are.
To suggest anything different is dumb to be blunt.
Then you also know better...shame on you to bandwqagon the trolls

Either you're very emotionally invested in Samsung's well-being or you're on their payroll

That is your opinion and pure speculation or wishful thinking on your part. One YT video is not a scandal or ANY of the things you listed here.
I will go out on a limb here and go on record that is will die on the vine. the only people perpetuating this falsehood is Apple fans who hate Samsung and have that underlying agenda as their motive.

The fact that the original poster and you are never ever in the atternative section except to post soemthing negative about Samsung speaks voulmes for your motives.


There is much to do about nothing here.....

So lets see in the coming days when all of this goes aways and dies off it you will come back and admit you were wrong.

It's interesting you consistently deviate from the actual topic and instead want to move the discussion to motives, "insecurities", "agenda", etc. Most of this borders on ad hominem.

Regarding that last sentence, welcome to noon yesterday:

But instead of going back and forth in these circular discussions I'll pop back here in 6 months and see if anything came of this. I suspect Samsung's PR and legal teams will be working overtime for the next several weeks at least.

 

[jamezr]

Either you're very emotionally invested in Samsung's well-being or you're on their payroll

Lol you found me out! I am sitting here wearing my AW Ultra next to my 14 PM Thanos typing on a 2021 MBP 16.
But somehow I am paid by Samsung OMG you are such a great detective!


Then I am not the one in the alternative section throwing shade on prodcuts I have no interest in buying.
You and the OP are not regulars here.....the only reason you are here is to post something negative about Samsung.

Lets look at your post history...175 posts and 20 of them are negative about Samsung......hmmmmm I see a pattern.
Looks like you are the one with the emotional investment with an agenda here.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Pure BS......the OP and others here are just trying to post negative things about Samsung...

Everyone here including you can see their motives ecatly for what they are.
To suggest anything different is dumb to be blunt.
Then you also know better...shame on you to bandwqagon the trolls

Lol I’m not bandwagoning anything. I’ll never understand the personal attachment and need to defend a tech brand. At the end of the day, it’s just stuff.

And while the intent of the OP may have been to troll, it’s still worth noting the a lot of the major tech reviewers have chimed in and agreed that they have issues with Samsung battery swell more than any other OEM. Now say what you will about tech reviewers and their motives, they still use way more devices than 99.9% of us here.

With that said, does that mean this will stop me from buying Samsung devices in the future? Of course not. But it may make me think twice about shelving an old Samsung phone in the closet or basement for years.

 

[bc 08]

Lol you found me out! I am sitting here wearing my AW Ultra next to my 14 PM Thanos typing on a 2021 MBP 16.
But somehow I am paid by Samsung OMG you are such a great detective!


Then I am not the one in the alternative section throwing shade on prodcuts I have no interest in buying.
You and the OP are not regulars here.....the only reason you are here is to post something negative about Samsung.

Lets look at your post history...175 posts and 20 of them are negative about Samsung......hmmmmm I see a pattern.
Looks like you are the one with the emotional investment with an agenda here.

Full on ad hominem now - a true purveyor of fallacy.

Feel free to point out where I’ve said anything negative about Samsung as a company — only their batteries.

 

[Berries-A-Million]

Lol you found me out! I am sitting here wearing my AW Ultra next to my 14 PM Thanos typing on a 2021 MBP 16.
But somehow I am paid by Samsung OMG you are such a great detective!


Then I am not the one in the alternative section throwing shade on prodcuts I have no interest in buying.
You and the OP are not regulars here.....the only reason you are here is to post something negative about Samsung.

Lets look at your post history...175 posts and 20 of them are negative about Samsung......hmmmmm I see a pattern.
Looks like you are the one with the emotional investment with an agenda here.

I am not wanting to get in the middle of this argument but I do want to mention this I've known you for a while and you are a phone fanatic. But, I also know that you are on the android forums and you are more for Android specifically Samsung than you are apple. I've owned both and don't love or hate either one. I just switch it up every year. But, history has shown you to be always defending Samsung stuff.

 

[jamezr]

I am not wanting to get in the middle of this argument but I do want to mention this I've known you for a while and you are a phone fanatic. But, I also know that you are on the android forums and you are more for Android specifically Samsung than you are apple. I've owned both and don't love or hate either one. I just switch it up every year. But, history has shown you to be always defending Samsung stuff.

I am a phone fanatic......I own a lot of Android phones. But i have had every iPhone since day one and will continue to upgrade every year.
But I use my iPhone more than all of my Android phones combined. I have said many many times here on MR in this section. My iPhone is my daiy driver. I use it more than anyother phone.

I do defend Samsung and others.....because of Apple fans that have this blind brand loyalty and hatred for all things Samsung. Thye come in to his section with the sole intent to post something negative to just rile people up and then leave. They don't particiapate with any discussions or care to other than hit and run so to speak.

 

[jamezr]

Full on ad hominem now - a true purveyor of fallacy.

Feel free to point out where I’ve said anything negative about Samsung as a company — only their batteries.

Point out where you hold anyother company to the same level of concern as you seem to hold Samsung and batteries.

Evidense has been provided here by me and others that show Apple has had the same battery issues. Yet nothing from you.....Your concern seems to only be directed at one company but ignores your favorte brand.
Hipocrite much do you?

 

[jamezr]

Lol I’m not bandwagoning anything. I’ll never understand the personal attachment and need to defend a tech brand. At the end of the day, it’s just stuff.

And while the intent of the OP may have been to troll, it’s still worth noting the a lot of the major tech reviewers have chimed in and agreed that they have issues with Samsung battery swell more than any other OEM. Now say what you will about tech reviewers and their motives, they still use way more devices than 99.9% of us here.

With that said, does that mean this will stop me from buying Samsung devices in the future? Of course not. But it may make me think twice about shelving an old Samsung phone in the closet or basement for years.

If this was an issue it would be all out there...we all know tech reviewers all want to be the first one to break any story for the page hits and ad revenue.
This was just to get people riled up in the Alternative section nothing more.

 

[bc 08]

Evidense has been provided here by me and others that show Apple has had the same battery issues. Yet nothing from you.....Your concern seems to only be directed at one company but ignores your favorte brand.
Hipocrite much do you?

Wrong, evidence has been provided that Apple who has hundreds of millions of lithium ion powered devices in use has had isolated instances of battery failure.

NO evidence of iPhone batteries failing with much higher frequency than competing manufacturers has been presented, as it has been for Samsung phones.

 

[jamezr]

Wrong, evidence has been provided that Apple who has hundreds of millions of lithium ion powered devices in use has had isolated instances of battery failure.

NO evidence of Apple batteries failing with much higher frequency than competing manufacturers has been presented, as it has been for Samsung.

nope...wrong again.....show me the evidense of Samsung batteries failing at a higher rate the competing manufactures........ One YouTube video is not that evidense just so you know....
where is all of the coloborating evidense to support any of what you said.....
Then just so you know Samsung sells more phones than Apple