Samsung Galaxy S4 First Look - OMG This is Awesome

[Random 995K]

Show me a single post on iphone 5 sales. A single one? No, ya got nothng huh?
What has Samsung put out? 50 million in 6 months? So Samsung is producing more with just 1 in 1 quarter that ittakes Apple 2 quarters and all their iphones combined. Maybe that has somethingn to do with the $200 per share slide we have seen.

And I copied this post for posterity. In your view, which appears deeply soaked in Apple's diuretic Koolaid, once features l

Haha 50 million my ASS, stop pulling numbers from the air. As of november 2nd the S3 has SHIPPED xD 30 million although these are estimates because samsung is too scared to release any numbers. Apple actually releases their figures and will see atleast 40 million iphones considering the 4S sold 37 million in its first whole quarter. You are digging yourself into a hole, don't enter the sales argument, any intelligent person knows the figures and they don't shine bright for samsung relative to apple. Would you like some links to articles of theses figures or do you have the intelligence to do some of your own research?

 

[matttye]

I'm a Samsung fan but the only cool thing in that video is the laser keyboard, and they exist already

Not cheap though: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Celluon-Cel...W50C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356865532&sr=8-1

I will be more impressed if the S4 is bendy, or at least the screen is flexible, which will protect it from impact damage

 

[matttye]

Funny how every feature the iPhone DOESN'T have, is superfluous or 'not needed'. I love how all the users that said they didn't need or want a bigger screen size or LTE, now rave how awesome these features are. Gotta love the hypocrits. And one day, when Apple figures out this revolutionary thing called a back button, iFans will go into a frenzy, thinking how great it is at marveling at this 'new' feature.

As for LED Notifications... I need a facepalm emoticon. You are so far gone out in left field, you aren't even in the stadium anymore. Your comment made me chuckle though. BTW, I think you have to be jailbroken to even utilize the camera's flash in that way. So, you can't even do that very basic function on any device using iOS6.

And Android became smooth at 4.0, not 4.2. Which is why I left the Apple walled garden, because Android had finally matured enough for me to use their OS. It makes iOS look like a speak and spell now. It's great for really young children and the aged, that didn't grow up with tech though. And I had bought my wife an iPhone 5 during pre-order. Very disappointing phone. I enjoyed the scratches, dent and pixel issue on the keyboard. Was wonderful watching it stutter while scrolling through long lists. We ended up sending it back and getting an S3 and thenshe upgraded to a Note2. Both phones are much better than the iFone5.

iOS has a back button, it's just on the top left hand corner of the display as a software button. Not much different to the Nexus line of phones which have software buttons. You can see this here:

http://photos.appleinsider.com/ios6-120919.jpg

The vast majority of apps conform to this navigation standard.

There are torch apps on the app store, so there's no technical reason why apps can't utilise the LED flash. The problem would be that apps can't run in the background waiting for notifications. I don't know whether foreground apps would be permitted by Apple to use the LED flash as a notification light. I suspect not, simply because I haven't seen any app that does this. Although that's probably because it doesn't really make sense as it's not a front facing light, and it would be very distracting if you're walking around at night with the torch blinking.

Some apps (messages is the only one I can find) support repeating alerts, so you could use that instead of a notification light to see missed notifications.

 

[dotcotton]

Anybody know when we can we expect to see an SIV?

Dot

 

[tekno]

LED notification light? Are you serious? How superfluous can you get....I couldn't care less about a notification light....haha.

Until you have it, it is difficult to see just how useful a notification light is. This is possibly the thing I'll find most difficult to be without if/when I go back to the iPhone.

 

[daveathall]

Not to interested in the keyboard thingy TBH but quite like the form of that phone. (I know it's only a render)

 

[nickchallis92]

also don't forget the back button on iOS doesn't work between apps (that's right, if you open an email, hit a link, to get back to that email, you're gunna have to close the browser and open up email again!!!)

furthermore, the back button is always just under your thumb so no stretching to the top left corner

silly apple

 

[flawlessvictory]

Random thoughts b/c there's 9 weeks left till I get my Nexus 4

I love me some Samsung commercials that just show off S-Beam

Or re-hashing the sex tape commercial... Santa + Old Mrs. Claus

But in all honesty, that's a nice concept if they could fit a camera in that and the headphone jack.

 

[TheMTtakeover]

Ya, curse Apple for giving us power efficient LTE as the tech was becoming mainstream. I really wish my iPhone had LTE sooner so I could not use it because it hadn't rolled out in my area yet while sucking my battery dry....

LED notification light? Are you serious? How superfluous can you get....I couldn't care less about a notification light....haha. Neither maps nor notification center have given me any trouble. While I hope iOS 7 gives us a new look, I'm perfectly content to stay away from the fragmented mess that is Android.

I suppose, since this is the theme - it only took Android to version 4.2 to make a smooth OS like iOS....oh wait, project butter still isn't up to par. Oh well, maybe Key Lime Pie or whatever the next desert Android releases with Project Baby's Butt will give Android users a taste of iOS's silky smooth user experience.

couldnt agree more.

 

[stridemat]

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[Rodimus Prime]

The android 5.0 keylime pie is a dead give away that this is fake.

 

[Dave.UK]

Really looking forward to seeing the Galaxy S4 when announced.

Had the S2 and then upgraded to the S3. Purchased the Nexus 4 a few weeks ago but sold it after having a play as just preferred the Galaxy line of android phones.

Hoping and praying they dont go along the lines of having a built in battery and no micro sd card support.

 

[TheHateMachine]

So much fail in this post. I'll just let the sales do the talking. iPhone 5 40-50 million sales in a quarter. S3 7 million sales a quarter and note 2 has sold a bit more than 5 million in its lifetime. People love iOS and don't want cheap crappy plastic. Seriously that led thing is the most useless feature on the s3 apart from NFC. The truth is, and unless you are blind, nothing will be big until apple does it and perfects it. 2 years down NFC might be massive but not until apple does it. Same thing with LTE, only now have carriers around the world implemented LTE. All the big business use iPhones, something like 70%. Also even jelly bean still lags like crap, especially playing games due to the poor optimisation of the OS.

Muh sides! Someone sells over 30 million of one model of phones and you claim no one wants that particular phone. Great logic there buddy!

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Haha 50 million my ASS, stop pulling numbers from the air. As of november 2nd the S3 has SHIPPED xD 30 million although these are estimates because samsung is too scared to release any numbers. Apple actually releases their figures and will see atleast 40 million iphones considering the 4S sold 37 million in its first whole quarter. You are digging yourself into a hole, don't enter the sales argument, any intelligent person knows the figures and they don't shine bright for samsung relative to apple. Would you like some links to articles of theses figures or do you have the intelligence to do some of your own research?

Yea all those phones are just sitting in warehouses and stores taking of space. These retailers think they look so good on shelves they just keep ordering more. They obviously aren't leaving retail right? Awaiting your reply to insult my intelligence or something.

 

[jrswizzle]

Until you have it, it is difficult to see just how useful a notification light is. This is possibly the thing I'll find most difficult to be without if/when I go back to the iPhone.

Oh there's the option for me to turn on the LED flash for notifications - under general settings > accessibility. I suppose, since my phone is always with me, I have no need for a light to tell when I have a notification. Either I see the screen, feel the vibration or don't want to be bothered with it.

Superfluous in my mind.

And I chose to respond to you because the other guy arguing you have to jailbreak to get this "amazing feature" hasn't posted a comment yet that wasn't full of complete nonsense.

Again, I bought the 5 - yes I like the bigger screen, but wasn't clamoring for it and sure don't think the screen size makes it the perfect phone. I do know ill be very disappointed if Apple makes an iPhone bigger than 4.5".....will I buy it? Yes, because screen size isn't the most important feature for me. But I haven't ever, and won't ever claim Apple's screen size is what makes the iPhone perfect. I simply prefer my phones to fit/be used in one hand, not two.

As I've already stated, I use iPhones and Apple products because of the WAY top hey do things. I don't have problems with lag, the OS is incredibly efficient and there's a vast number of apps specific for each device I own. Many things Android users claim are amazing features for them, my iPhone just does for me. Can your Android phone automatically backup every night allowing you to switch to brand new hardware and essentially copy your old phone (settings, apps and all) to the new one in a matter of minutes/hours (depending on Internet speed and amount of data)? I couldn't on my Nexus7 - or at least it wasn't made easily accessible.

I can instantly share photos with my family members in other parts of the country (granted they have iPhones) through photo stream and not lose image quality. Sure, the whole NFC touching phones thing is a neat trick....but there a some pretty big limitations....like having to be with the person you want to share with. From what I've heard from those I know with GS3's it doesn't work quite like the commercials.

Neither device is perfect, though the iPhone keeps selling better than any other smartphone out there (as evidenced by Apples market share gains this year - up to 53.3% in the US, and increase of about 20% year over year, at the expense of Android, Windows and RIM - Android lost over 10%). So you prefer your device and I prefer mine. I still don't understand the need for people to justify their purchase/use of one device by claiming the competing device is garbage and can't do anything useful....

 

[Random 995K]

Muh sides! Someone sells over 30 million of one model of phones and you claim no one wants that particular phone. Great logic there buddy!

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Yea all those phones are just sitting in warehouses and stores taking of space. These retailers think they look so good on shelves they just keep ordering more. They obviously aren't leaving retail right? Awaiting your reply to insult my intelligence or something.

Well of course some people want it because A) its cheaper and B)They prefer it for maybe the OS and screen size since in performance its blown out the water by the 5. Mostly A though im guessing. And yeah you pretty much got the second paragraph all right. They order 5 million phones a week before the quarter and then boom. 30 million sales instead of 25 million. Anyway its estimated, that 30 million is not just shipped numbers, but estimated shipped numbers.

 

[DanteMann]

Lol if I remember correctly, a YouTube mockup of the iPhone 5 came with the projector BUIlT IN haha....

Now even Samsung fakes are stealing from Apple fakes

Actually, Galaxy Beam already exists with a built in projector. So what is vaporware for Apple is a reality for Samsung.

 

[jrswizzle]

Actually, Galaxy Beam already exists with a built in projector. So what is vaporware for Apple is a reality for Samsung.

Lol - ehh, that's a stretch. The Beam has a projector built in sure, but not for laser typing. It's like the projector case for the iPhone, only built in. Different use cases - immensely different technology.

But good for Samsung - for those who want to carry around a pocket projector and their phone in the same device without the option of ever separating the two.

 

[dkersten]

So much fail in this post. I'll just let the sales do the talking. iPhone 5 40-50 million sales in a quarter. S3 7 million sales a quarter and note 2 has sold a bit more than 5 million in its lifetime. People love iOS and don't want cheap crappy plastic. Seriously that led thing is the most useless feature on the s3 apart from NFC. The truth is, and unless you are blind, nothing will be big until apple does it and perfects it. 2 years down NFC might be massive but not until apple does it. Same thing with LTE, only now have carriers around the world implemented LTE. All the big business use iPhones, something like 70%. Also even jelly bean still lags like crap, especially playing games due to the poor optimisation of the OS.

Question for you... Do you prefer Macs to Windows machines? Because by your logic right up there, Windows computers are clearly better than Macs because they sell more. Now I'm not saying that Windows computers are better than Macs (or vice versa) or that Android phones are better than iPhones (or vice versa) but that is very poorly thought out logic to argue a point.

As for nothing being big until Apple does it, to a certain extent you are right. One of Apple's strength's is dumbing down cool tech so it appeals to a mainstream audience (and this isn't a bad thing). However I, and I would assume most the people on this forum, don't need their hand held when it comes to slightly difficult technology. I can and do things with my S3 and NFC that Apple most likely would never let me do in iOS even if they did adopt NFC technology.

As for LTE, I can see why Apple stayed out of the game until they did, but you can't argue like it is a positive thing. It really isn't hard to turn off LTE in settings if it currently isn't in your market or it eats battery. You don't have to use it but I know many people that would have liked it earlier than Apple implemented it.

Furthermore can you prove 70% of big businesses use iPhones? I would like to see some evidence. After a quick Google search I saw "many companies" and "many Fortune 500 companies" but I did not see a percent and can't believe 70% of big businesses use iPhones. If you can produce a link I'll shut up.

And, how much have you really used Jelly Bean? There is very few ways you can prove to us that you have used Jelly Bean, I'll give you that, so don't bother trying. But it sounds like you are just throwing around phrases you've read on the internet about Android. I would be quite surprised if you had extensive experience with it.

Finally, if you prefer iOS and iPhones to Android phones, that's fine. You are entitled to your opinion and your opinion isn't wrong. But don't act like Apple can do no wrong with iOS and the iPhone because they are far from perfect. Granted the iPhone does many things better than Android does but it also doesn't do many things that Android does or doesn't do it as well as Android. Just open up your eyes and realize there are other options and some of those options can do things better than Apple's model.

 

[Lindsford]

What a terrible, terrible misleading title.

 

[adder7712]

That commercial highlighting that particular feature struck me as really odd, too.

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At this point and time, I'm more excited to see the S4 than I am the iPhone 5S/6.

I'm also excited about the Googlerola "Phone X," whatever that may be.

I agree. Even the iPhone 4 had noise cancellation so technically it isn't groundbreaking.

 

[tekno]

Oh there's the option for me to turn on the LED flash for notifications - under general settings > accessibility.

Unless I'm mistaken, the LED flashes just a few times as the message/call is received.

On the GS3, a blue light flashes every 5 seconds until the missed event is acknowledged.

And with emails, the iPhone does nothing other than a noise (the screen doesn't even light up) - the GS3 also has the notification light and the email icon in the status bar. When I had the iPhone I found I was constantly unlocking it, inputting my passcode to check for the new email number next to the email icon.

Such a simple concept that Apple continues to refuse to include on the iPhone.

 

[jrswizzle]

Unless I'm mistaken, the LED flashes just a few times as the message/call is received.

On the GS3, a blue light flashes every 5 seconds until the missed event is acknowledged.

And with emails, the iPhone does nothing other than a noise (the screen doesn't even light up) - the GS3 also has the notification light and the email icon in the status bar. When I had the iPhone I found I was constantly unlocking it, inputting my passcode to check for the new email number next to the email icon.

Such a simple concept that Apple continues to refuse to include on the iPhone.

So you never felt it vibrate to tell you there was an unread email? You never heard the sound? If it is somewhere you can see it (obviously it would need to be for the light to matter) I don't understand how you either

1) Dont hear it sound/vibrate
2) Don't feel it vibrate

If you need to know the second you get an email, I would assume you'd have your phone on you at all times - which would mean you'd feel it vibrate or hear it sound.

Adding a third notification light for times when you need to know if you have an email and your phone is on silent and across the room seems like the definition of superfluous.

For the record - I have never missed an email I didn't chose to ignore. Even without the amazing LED notification light.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Ah, the classic "if Apple doesn't do it, it's useless" argument.

I wonder if we'd be hearing a different tune from jrswizzle if the tables were turned and it was Apple that offered these hardware/software features instead of the competition. Would we still see arguments against the usefulness of said features? I wonder, indeed.

EDIT: I just read some more of jrswizzle's recent posts. This is the perfect example of an Apple fan that believes he's the best kind (the kind that only praises Apple and what they do), when he's really the worst kind (the kind that thinks anything Apple doesn't do is useless; the kind that thinks anyone who dares to criticize or wish for Apple to do more aren't Apple fans). It's the type of fan that doesn't realize that the inability to talk honestly about Apple's shortcomings is actually detrimental. It's a shame, and a big part of why iOS is where it is now.

 

[jrswizzle]

Ah, the classic "if Apple doesn't do it, it's useless" argument.

I wonder if we'd be hearing a different tune from jrswizzle if the tables were turned and it was Apple that offered these hardware/software features instead of the competition. Would we still see arguments against the usefulness of said features? I wonder, indeed.

EDIT: I just read some more of jrswizzle's recent posts. This is the perfect example of an Apple fan that believes he's the best kind (the kind that only praises Apple and what they do), when he's really the worst kind (the kind that thinks anything Apple doesn't do is useless; the kind that thinks anyone who dares to criticize or wish for Apple to do more aren't Apple fans). It's the type of fan that doesn't realize that the inability to talk honestly about Apple's shortcomings is actually detrimental. It's a shame, and a big part of why iOS is where it is now.

Lol - I've never said Apple couldn't/shouldn't do more. My being content with Apple/iOS in its current state shouldn't be some referendum on my feelings about Apple's "shortcomings". You wanna know why I don't bring them up or don't talk about them? I don't care - truly I don't. You seem to take things quite literally and seriously so let me be straight and serious:

I use Apple devices. I like Apple devices. Apple devices do everything I need them to do. Android devices are great for some, but don't offer anything more to me. I prefer Apple's ecosystem and have a lot of money in apps and such and would rather not throw that away.

My experience with Android (somewhat limited, though if you ACTUALLY read some of my recent posts you'd know I'd like to get a Note II) hasn't been all that great, but I recognize for some the widgets and customization are appealing.

Being the "worst kind" of Apple fan that I am - I can admit that both OSes have their place and have pros and cons. I speak from my preferences and experiences - sometimes playing devil's advocate or striking up a discussion to sharpen my arguments or simply to learn something new.

You mistake my enjoyment of discussion for something else.

And as an answer to your first question, I didn't seem to need them or use them when I was using Android as my primary tablet versus iOS - so as far as I can tell I wouldn't be upset they were there (so long as they didn't effect stability, efficiency and security) but no I probably wouldn't use them.

 

[The iGentleman]

So you never felt it vibrate to tell you there was an unread email? You never heard the sound? If it is somewhere you can see it (obviously it would need to be for the light to matter) I don't understand how you either

1) Dont hear it sound/vibrate
2) Don't feel it vibrate

If you need to know the second you get an email, I would assume you'd have your phone on you at all times - which would mean you'd feel it vibrate or hear it sound.

Adding a third notification light for times when you need to know if you have an email and your phone is on silent and across the room seems like the definition of superfluous.

For the record - I have never missed an email I didn't chose to ignore. Even without the amazing LED notification light.

If a person leaves their phone on the charger and leaves the room, and they receive a text message while out of the room, it is helpful to have a notification light to alert them of the presence of that text (when they enter the room again). Without the light, they'd have to make sure they remember to check the phone for any possible messages they may have missed while out of the room. With a notification light, they can just glance at the phone as they are walking in the room and know if they have something they need to take a look at. Is it essential? No, but it is EXTREMELY convenient.