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S4 or One

  • Samsung Galaxy S4

    Votes: 71 38.8%
  • HTC One

    Votes: 112 61.2%

  • Total voters
    183

MRU

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This!

HTC will probably release the One + soon or DNA + :rolleyes:

They have gone on record to say the HTC ONE will be their only major flagship android device for 2013 as they have listened to their consumers and the retailers, competitors & even developers feedback.

HTC are really trying to do the right thing this year - because clearly they need to.
 
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jrswizzle

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HTC One for these reasons:

(1) I've really NEVER been a fan of Samsung - don't like their advertising and that presentation was sickening....And the GS4 didn't wow me AT ALL....I might as well go pick up a GS3.

(2) HTC shares Apple's design sense - I much prefer the aluminum chassis over the poly carbonate of the Galaxy phones.

(3) Could TouchWiz get any more bloated?!?! The only feature I saw yesterday that I would be even remotely interested in is the S-Translator....of which a Google version exists (and is likely better).

(4) Looks like HTC is the more powerful device (even if by a hair) and as another poster mentioned, the difference in lag in initial videos definitely favors the HTC One.

(5) I'm perfectly content with the battery on the Nexus 4 (even if it does suck a$$) and I have my iPhone 5 camera that I use primarily anyways. The battery life and camera don't really bother me all that much.

(6) I actually PREFER the lock button on top....then I'm not always accidentally hitting it when holding the phone. It's not really a stretch to reach my index finger to the top of the phone to click the button.....too much is made of this (its a preference, not a world-ending mistake).

(7) The display quality is probably my biggest concern on a smartphone. I think the iPhone 5 has the best of any out there, though I haven't looked at the HTC One in person (and I know they produce amazing displays). The fact the GS4 is still Pentile, forgetting its even AMOLED, is extremely disappointing. LCD > AMOLED.

Anyways - I'll likely check them out in person a lot as I have until September to make my decision. If neither impress, I may just opt for the new iPhone, regardless of how big an upgrade it is.....we shall see! But Apple better be licking their chops (so should HTC and Sony for that matter)....Samsung just left the door wide-open, and if they expect to slam it in Q3 with their "tizen-phone".....well, given the "throw it all at a wall and see what sticks" approach to TouchWiz, I wouldn't be too hopeful for a massive success for their own OS.
 

Kariya

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Neither. iPhone 5 :cool: :D

-Battery life is above average
-sRGB calibrated IPS screen is still one of the best out there despite size/resolution
-Camera is the overall best you can get (excl the 808 PureView)
-Great call quality
-Speedy
-Ecosystem

iOS/iP5 aren't perfect by any stretch but to me still the overall device/experience to beat.
 
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onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Neither. iPhone 5 :cool::D

Might be the way I go, too.

I'm just horrified of that iOS keyboard. It's one of the main things that turned me off from the iPhone back when I owned the 4S. Just could not keep up with how fast I thumbed, and the auto correction and lack of control over the personal dictionary (sometimes choosing what words not to save is just as important as choosing what to save, and iOS doesn't allow you to do either) made the experience even more miserable.

Typing out any serious (work related) emails or messages was an exercise in terrible frustration.

A coworker of mine who owns an iPhone has in her signature "sent by iPhone. Excuse the typos!"
 

Kariya

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Might be the way I go, too.

I'm just horrified of that iOS keyboard. It's one of the main things that turned me off from the iPhone back when I owned the 4S. Just could not keep up with how fast I thumbed, and the auto correction and lack of control over the personal dictionary (sometimes choosing what words not to save is just as important as choosing what to save, and iOS doesn't allow you to do either) made the experience even more miserable.

Typing out any serious (work related) emails or messages was an exercise in terrible frustration.

A coworker of mine who owns an iPhone has in her signature "sent by iPhone. Excuse the typos!"

Haha. Yup the keyboard is deffo an acquired taste and hasn't been updated since iPhone OS 1 IIRC. I think BB Z10 has the best touch keyboard to date. Followed closely by Android/Swype/SwiftKey.
 
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jamojamo

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Feb 12, 2010
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A coworker of mine who owns an iPhone has in her signature "sent by iPhone. Excuse the typos!"

Yep, for the last 5 years I've seen variations of that on many phones, beginning with the Blackberry. (in fact, that was a recommended standard "Please excuse the brevity and any inadvertent typos, this message was sent from my Blackberry"

I agree the keyboard and auto correction are lacking compared to my Nexus 7 with Swiftkey - even simple changes like long-pressing the Q key will switch to a 1, so nice and helpful for those times I need it. To say nothing of the auto-correct!
 

2298754

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S4.

HTC is too hung up in appearance to make a good phone. Poor software, terrible battery life. They never learnt their lesson last year.

Its funny because the HTC CEO is calling the S4 presentation terrible. He's just bitter that his company is too cheap to spend ridiculous amounts of money to promote their phone and the fact that the One has already become overshadowed by the S4.

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This!

HTC will probably release the One + soon or DNA + :rolleyes:

In any case, is that camera on the GS4 recessed or not?! Doesn't look like it from the profile shots I've seen, but it sure does look like it isn't by looking at the back cover!

Yup. Well see a One+ in a few months and 4.2.2 will come to the One in about a year
 

TheMTtakeover

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I'm gonna be getting the HTC One. The design of the One is the nicest design for a phone yet, IMO. What they are doing with the 'Ultrapixels' is really against the Norm right now and I can appreciate that. Mostly though, I am in love with those speakers.

The s4 seems pretty nice but it honestly seems more like an S model to the SIII than the SIII did to the SII.
 

onthecouchagain

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Haha. Yup the keyboard is deffo an acquired taste and hasn't been updated since iPhone OS 1 IIRC. I think BB Z10 has the best touch keyboard to date. Followed closely by Android/Swype/SwiftKey.

Yep, for the last 5 years I've seen variations of that on many phones, beginning with the Blackberry. (in fact, that was a recommended standard "Please excuse the brevity and any inadvertent typos, this message was sent from my Blackberry"

I agree the keyboard and auto correction are lacking compared to my Nexus 7 with Swiftkey - even simple changes like long-pressing the Q key will switch to a 1, so nice and helpful for those times I need it. To say nothing of the auto-correct!



So y'all are telling me the keyboard doesn't get better with Iph 5? :T

I was really hoping the faster processor or something somehow made the keyboard better. Just blindly hoping...

Alas... I hope jailbreaking will be the solution.

Worse comes to worse, I'll just have to return it within the 30 day Apple return policy. <-- This is actually a big reason why I'm going with the iPhone. If I do change my mind as the S4 reviews trickle out, I can safely return it, no questions asked. An affordable case will keep it in good condition and help me save money in the long run.

Unfortunately, S4 unlocked will probably be, what, upwards of $700-800+?

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HTC is too hung up in appearance to make a good phone.


100% agree. And people are eating it up. It's a gorgeous device, but there's so many causes for concern. Many of them already expressed here.
 

MRU

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So y'all are telling me the keyboard doesn't get better with Iph 5? :T

I was really hoping the faster processor or something somehow made the keyboard better. Just blindly hoping...

What's the problem with the keyboard exactly ? I have no problems typing on it - even when it is bugging me to correct gaelic spelling, and for the most part auto correct is good...... except the one time when I told someone I'd 'meet them at six' and it changed it to 'meet them at sex' and i sent without checking... ooops.
 

Kariya

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So y'all are telling me the keyboard doesn't get better with Iph 5? :T

Landscape keyboard in iP5 makes things somewhat better since keys are wider. As for auto-correct you just have to deal with it as and when needed. Dictation is also another option which works fine. Not amazingly but not terribly either.
 

jrswizzle

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What's the problem with the keyboard exactly ? I have no problems typing on it - even when it is bugging me to correct gaelic spelling, and for the most part auto correct is good...... except the one time when I told someone I'd 'meet them at six' and it changed it to 'meet them at sex' and i sent without checking... ooops.

I check my emails and texts anyways - especially when sending something work related....

I too don't have any issues with the keyboard....it feels faster to type on as well.

If auto-correct bugs people, its easy enough to toggle off.
 

onthecouchagain

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What's the problem with the keyboard exactly ? I have no problems typing on it - even when it is bugging me to correct gaelic spelling, and for the most part auto correct is good...... except the one time when I told someone I'd 'meet them at six' and it changed it to 'meet them at sex' and i sent without checking... ooops.

Well, you've already pointed to one thing that drives me nuts. The auto correction is just horrendous. And it has a lot to do with the keyboard simply not registering every key press (i will literally see keys gray out, meaning they've been tapped, but the letter doesn't show). When you thumb fast, it just doesn't keep up (true on the iPad as well). This leads to horrendous auto corrections.

Lack of suggestion bar, lack of predictive text, lack of control over personal dictionary (this is a huge one. It'd be nice if we could have the ability to save and NOT save words we want or don't want), not being able to long press for alternative symbols, no lower-or-upper case signifier, etc.

The narrow screen size plays a bit into it, too, but it's really the software that fails.

And worse, Apple doesn't deem it needs any upgrading considering it's been 5 years going without any sort of major improvement.

The S4 has Swiftkey's predictions algorithyms baked into its keyboard. Swype, Thumb Keyboard, Smartkeyboard Pro, Swiftkey themselves have all proven what and how a keyboard should function on the smartphone. I mean, customizable keyboard sizes (doesn't have to be difficult. Swiftkey offers "small, medium, large" -- simple), customizable alternative characters, so many things... that all help improve your personal typing experience.

The iOS keyboard, in short, is just old. Don't forget, it gave birth to the internet phenom known as "Damn You iPhone Auto Correction". The iOS keyboard is a joke.

***This is mainly gathered from my time with the 4S. And to a lesser extent, my time with my iPad 3rd gen (though I don't type as much on the iPad. It's used more for games, etc.).



EDIT: Also, side note... the dictation is so much better on Android. I hate that iOS' dictation waits for you to finish your sentence before it begins loading words out. It often misses entire words, sometimes whole sentences, if what you're dictating gets remotely lengthy. Whereas on Android, it goes word by word as you say it, is extremely accurate, and you're able to see when things go wrong so you can stop/edit. You also don't have to press the MIC key again to "stop" the recording, as you do on iOS.

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Back to HTC One:

From Phone Arena:

"The device comes with a new button layout and instead of the standard three capacitive buttons you only get two, and an HTC logo in the middle instead of the third. What’s missing is the multitasking button, which you now access by double-tapping the home key. Long holding the same home key fires up Google Now. This new layout is a bit strange and having the back button on the left makes it a bit of a stretch to reach. You get used to it over time, but it doesn’t feel like the perfect setup."

"Physically buttons are large and comfortable to press. The volume rocker is on the side and the lock key, which doubles as an InfraRed blaster, is located on top. Its top location is a bit of a stretch for the finger and we would have preferred to have it on the side, but it is a compromise made so you can use the One as a remote control for your TV. We got used to its position fairly quickly."

Many other reviews reflect similar thoughts on the new button layout and hard to reach sleep/wake button...

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(5) I'm perfectly content with the battery on the Nexus 4 (even if it does suck a$$) and I have my iPhone 5 camera that I use primarily anyways. The battery life and camera don't really bother me all that much.

(6) I actually PREFER the lock button on top....then I'm not always accidentally hitting it when holding the phone. It's not really a stretch to reach my index finger to the top of the phone to click the button.....too much is mad


Just curious, have you ever owned the HTC One X?

Given HTC's history, and given that reviews are already saying the battery life is only decent-average without LTE, I'd be concerned about the battery life on LTE.

As for the power lock button, there are plenty of ways to avoid pressing the button if it's on the side. You can offset the position with the volume rockers by putting them not directly across from each other (ala LG Nexus 4), or ont he same side (ala Sony Xperia Z). Plus, generally, as devices get larger, your whole hand is really not covering the entire side. I really think it's a none issue, this whole "accidentally pressing it if it's on the side." I think it's something you'd resolve and get used to very easily.

As for it being on top, I don't mean to make it the end of the world, but again, if you've ever owned the HTC One X, you'll know that devices so big, and with the power/wake button the only access point to wake AND sleep your device, it gets tiring and is cumbersome to constantly reach up to it. Again, not the end of the world.
 

sentinelsx

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Just give me a nexus with better camera, more storage, and a tad better battery and I would never buy touchwiz or sense devices.
 

2298754

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100% agree. And people are eating it up. It's a gorgeous device, but there's so many causes for concern. Many of them already expressed here.

Yup, it's hilarious that people are so blinded by how nice it looks. They're willing to overlook so many key issues, like battery life, power button placement, Sense issues, etc
 

jrswizzle

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Just curious, have you ever owned the HTC One X?

Given HTC's history, and given that reviews are already saying the battery life is only decent-average without LTE, I'd be concerned about the battery life on LTE.

As for the power lock button, there are plenty of ways to avoid pressing the button if it's on the side. You can offset the position with the volume rockers by putting them not directly across from each other (ala LG Nexus 4), or ont he same side (ala Sony Xperia Z). Plus, generally, as devices get larger, your whole hand is really not covering the entire side. I really think it's a none issue, this whole "accidentally pressing it if it's on the side." I think it's something you'd resolve and get used to very easily.

As for it being on top, I don't mean to make it the end of the world, but again, if you've ever owned the HTC One X, you'll know that devices so big, and with the power/wake button the only access point to wake AND sleep your device, it gets tiring and is cumbersome to constantly reach up to it. Again, not the end of the world.

I have not. I'm simply going by the size of my N4. I can hold the phone normally, pretty easily reach the top of the phone with my index finger (which is how I lock my iPhone 5). It really isn't much of a stretch and doesn't require any shuffling that I'm not already doing handling a phone of that size.

As for the battery life thing, perhaps its terrible. I really have no idea. But until I check out the phones I reserve judgement. LTE chips aren't power suckers like they used to be (hence why Apple finally implemented it), so I'm not terribly concerned that LTE will affect the battery life a ton.

If my Nexus 4 can make it through the day, I'm sure the One can as well. My biggest concern with it will be HTC's relative sloth-like speed in getting updates out....I'm very accustomed to having timely updates and really prefer it.

I have until September - by then we may have a Nexus Phone or the Moto Phone X to throw into the mix. But simply going off what's been released so far, if I had to choose I would pick the One over the GS4 or the Xperia ZL. The things most important to me (screen quality, build quality) are where the One outshines the others.....

I've also heard good things about Sense 5 and am hugely turned off by all the added bloat Samsung keeps throwing into TouchWiz....
 

LorPGDL

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most of those issues can easily be dealt with with a custom rom. im sure some nifty developer can create a custom rom without sense, the volume rocker functioning as a home key and concerning battery life i havent found a single review, except from the verge (who are terribly biased and they dont even try to hide it really) but ill await some real world usage reports and not lean too heavily on 2 day reviews of the phone.
 

nick_elt

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s4 for a number of reasons but mainly i prefer the look of the s4 over the one, i think the look is highly over rated.
 

cuzo

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Might be the way I go, too.

I'm just horrified of that iOS keyboard. It's one of the main things that turned me off from the iPhone back when I owned the 4S. Just could not keep up with how fast I thumbed, and the auto correction and lack of control over the personal dictionary (sometimes choosing what words not to save is just as important as choosing what to save, and iOS doesn't allow you to do either) made the experience even more miserable.

Typing out any serious (work related) emails or messages was an exercise in terrible frustration.

A coworker of mine who owns an iPhone has in her signature "sent by iPhone. Excuse the typos!"

I agree the keyboard isn't the best and I make many mistakes and lord do I wish it was a little wider but using android I know what to expect already. If I was gonna pick between the two the s4 gets my vote at least it has extra features.
 

tekno

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Oct 15, 2011
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Possibly a daft question, but how can I compare the two?

If I go to a shop I can look at two dummy phones, but how can I really have a good play with each phone and make a truly informed decision?

This is still where Apple wins - you can walk into an Apple store and play to your heart's content (as many school children choose to do).
 

onthecouchagain

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Drama Shot, Burst Shot, Share Shot, Smile Shot, Group Play, Smart Pause, Smart Scroll, Smart Rotate, Smart Stay, Direct Call, et al.

Not saying that they're not useful, to each their own, but if you don't use a lot of that it comes across as bloat-y :p

When did additional features become bloatware? It's just... extra things you can do.

I can't believe we've gotten to a point where companies are adding too many new features. What has the world come to!

But all right.
 
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