Samsung has successfully killed Sony, is Apple next?

[iPad5]

How Sony Is Turning into a Ghost in Japan and Around the World

"What was even worse is that during this period, Korea and Taiwan immediately welcome the exiting Sony techies with open arms. It was better than industrial espionage—Samsung could openly 'buy' the technology that Sony had developed simply by rehiring their best and brightest."

The representative of a major European investor in Sony recalls his meeting with Idei very unfavorably.

"I came to Japan to talk to Mr. Idei about our growing concerns with Sony's direction. We had dinner together. I wanted to talk about profit margins; he wanted to talk about the wine we were having. He struck me as a clueless."

When the investor pointed out that Sony's operating profits on electronic products were roughly 2-4 percent and that Samsung was making similar products at a 30 percent profit margin, Idei hushed him by reportedly saying, "They make the parts for our products. We put them together. It's the difference between a steel maker and an automobile maker. We make the automobiles."

The investor apparently countered, "Well, I've got news for you-the people you laid off from the car plant are now working at the steel mill, and soon the steel mills will be building cars with your technology."

The warning was not heeded. It was 2004 when they last met, and while the iPod was increasingly becoming the to-go platform for mobile music and multi-media contents, Sony or rather Idei, didn't take it seriously.

I think Apple has made a great move by cutting Samsung out as one of their suppliers. Hopefully, Apple won't repeat Sony's huge mistake of keeping Samsung as their main supplier, and Samsung ended up betraying Sony. Nobody is buying Sony HDTVs anymore, everyone would rather get Samsung HDTVs since those are cheaper and almost as good. Do you guys think that after Apple cutting Samsung as one of their major suppliers, Samsung will be having a hard time trying to copy Apple products? Yes/No

 

[ct2k7]

Are you trying to troll?

 

[OceanView]

You realize Samsung is the Steel Maker to Apples Automaker position here?

 

[macalec]

I hope samsung goes down before anyone... I dont like them-never did... I think LG even makes better TV's.

How Sony Is Turning into a Ghost in Japan and Around the World




I think Apple has made a great move by cutting Samsung out as one of their suppliers. Hopefully, Apple won't repeat Sony's huge mistake of keeping Samsung as their main supplier, and Samsung ended up betraying Sony. Nobody is buying Sony HDTVs anymore, everyone would rather get Samsung HDTVs since those are cheaper and almost as good. Do you guys think that after Apple cutting Samsung as one of their major suppliers, Samsung will be having a hard time trying to copy Apple products? Yes/No

 

[ct2k7]

I hope samsung goes down before anyone... I dont like them-never did... I think LG even makes better TV's.

I sincerely hope not.

Samsung makes arguable some of the best electronic products. Ranging from flash storage to simple white goods. I'm guessing a lot of things in your home have Samsung chips in them.

 

[blackhand1001]

I hope samsung goes down before anyone... I dont like them-never did... I think LG even makes better TV's.

Plasmas are the best but samsung lcd's are definitely better than LG.

 

[MRU]

Are you trying to troll?

trying ? That's a bit cruel....

At least praise the man when they are doing a good job

 

[EstaVidaLoca]

Lol well they'll be no need for a Samsung killed HTC thread because HTC is killing themselves.

 

[MRU]

Plasmas are the best but samsung lcd's are definitely better than LG.

Depends on the model, price range and series number really.....

Can't say which is best definitively between any of them as so many variables. Also with TV's its a lot to do with the processing now-a-days too which can change viewing so so much.

My LG 42" 3D LED TV has a much better picture than my 46" Samsung 3D LED TV despite the Samung costing €1459 and the LG €749 and that's mainly due to technological changes in the 12 months age gap between them.

 

[Michael Goff]

How Sony Is Turning into a Ghost in Japan and Around the World




I think Apple has made a great move by cutting Samsung out as one of their suppliers. Hopefully, Apple won't repeat Sony's huge mistake of keeping Samsung as their main supplier, and Samsung ended up betraying Sony. Nobody is buying Sony HDTVs anymore, everyone would rather get Samsung HDTVs since those are cheaper and almost as good. Do you guys think that after Apple cutting Samsung as one of their major suppliers, Samsung will be having a hard time trying to copy Apple products? Yes/No

So tired of the "Samsung is copying Apple" myth.

Let's look at the Galaxy Note series. Yep, that's exactly like... nothing Apple makes.

Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4. Yep, I can see how people think they're just like the iPhone... okay, so I can't.

Exynos vs A# chips are just alike in every way, except that they're not. Especially if we look at the way that Apple gets better battery life for their processors (optimizing and clocking down) vs what Samsung is doing (Octa-core).

The worst part of it is recently, when Best Buy started to talk about Samsung Experience shops. It's like Apple invented store-within-a-store according to some people.

 

[ucfgrad93]

While Samsung makes some great phones, I don't think they will kill off Apple.

 

[lazard]

How Sony Is Turning into a Ghost in Japan and Around the World




I think Apple has made a great move by cutting Samsung out as one of their suppliers. Hopefully, Apple won't repeat Sony's huge mistake of keeping Samsung as their main supplier, and Samsung ended up betraying Sony. Nobody is buying Sony HDTVs anymore, everyone would rather get Samsung HDTVs since those are cheaper and almost as good. Do you guys think that after Apple cutting Samsung as one of their major suppliers, Samsung will be having a hard time trying to copy Apple products? Yes/No

Samsung didn't kill Sony. Sony died from their self inflicted wound.

Former Sony executives and current employees blame the fall of the firm on the loss of brainpower and good employees during the reign of Nobuyuki Idei, from 1999 to 2005.

"Idei decided to streamline the company and do massive restructuring. When we say, 'restructure' in Japanese-we really mean get rid of people. He put together an early retirement plan and strongly encouraged people to use it. Well, that didn't generate a lot of good feelings. When a company starts promoting early retirement, most people take that as a sign to get out while they still can. And many did. Maybe the idea was that by getting rid of the middle aged and older employees they'd encourage innovation and bring in some young blood. The effect was more like shooting yourself in the foot."

 

[northernbaldy]

if samsung kill apple, who will they copy off?

 

[iPad5]

if samsung kill apple, who will they copy off?

Funny that you mentioned this, I was exactly thinking the same thing!

 

[tjl3]

Plasmas are the best but samsung lcd's are definitely better than LG.

Panasonic plasmas are the best =D

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

The best looking screen is the Sony Bravia line, but Samsung's Smart TVs are freaking awesome. I just might switch to a Samsung Smart TV next.

 

[Fernandez21]

wait, Sony died?

 

[daneoni]

Apple is currently "too big to fail" they have far too much money/revenue and are a little smarter than the average suits in the industry.

So tired of the "Samsung is copying Apple" myth.

Let's look at the Galaxy Note series. Yep, that's exactly like... nothing Apple makes.

Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4. Yep, I can see how people think they're just like the iPhone... okay, so I can't.

Lets look at the Galaxy S. Yep its lost twin brother of the iPhone 3G/3GS. And Galaxy Tab 10.1, I can see how they're similar to the iPad...no seriously I can. What about their new Wallet app. Yep exactly like...Passbook from Apple.

 

[Kashsystems]

wait, Sony died?

I guess we are going to have to forget about ordering that PS4.

 

[vincebio]

what a lot of utter tripe.

Go check out the Sony Bravia KDL HX series TV's and then some Samsungs and you might reverse your thread title...

 

[quasinormal]

So tired of the "Samsung is copying Apple" myth.
.

Google didn't think it was a myth.


https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1411088/

 

[adnbek]

So tired of the "Samsung is copying Apple" myth.

Myth indeed.

Source

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

Samsung didn't kill Sony. Sony died because of old age.

Samsung started off by copying/following Apple. They still do. Retail stores? Apple is one of the few tech companies that pulled it off successfully. You don't see a Toshiba store, Dell store, etc. Same with store within a store stuff. Apple wasn't the first, but they are one of the few that make it work successfully. Without Apple, Samsung will die. To this day, Samsung has not taken a previously "failed" product category like tablet computers, music players, touchscreen phone, etc. and made it globally successful. Sure they made great strides with large screen smartphones, phablets, etc. but those are different than Apple making tablet computers, music players, touchscreen phones popular. Apple made smartphones popular, Samsung made large screen smartphones popular. Both are impressive but one is slightly more so.

In cellular network terms, Apple is to Samsung as 4G LTE is to HSDPA+. Samsung has not reinvigorated a previously "failed" product category and made it largely successful. A good example of this is smart TVs. If Samsung is truly "better" than Apple, they would have made smart TVs ubiquitous as iPhones, iPods and iPads were relative to its time. But Samsung has already tried its hand with smart TVs and has failed like everybody else. Apple has not (Apple TV is not a smart TV, it's a set top box).

 

[Radiating]

How Sony Is Turning into a Ghost in Japan and Around the World




I think Apple has made a great move by cutting Samsung out as one of their suppliers. Hopefully, Apple won't repeat Sony's huge mistake of keeping Samsung as their main supplier, and Samsung ended up betraying Sony. Nobody is buying Sony HDTVs anymore, everyone would rather get Samsung HDTVs since those are cheaper and almost as good. Do you guys think that after Apple cutting Samsung as one of their major suppliers, Samsung will be having a hard time trying to copy Apple products? Yes/No

Sony makes products that are of a much higher quality than Samsung, and people still buy Sony products because they know that Samsung makes cheap junk.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

The iPhone UI has become the status quo quickly after it's initial release. Trying to gain momentum outside the status quo is not easy, so you can't blame Samsung for making it's UI more iPhone like. I feel it's more like "fitting in" rather than just pain outright copying.

It's obvious that Samsung has been a little too blatant in doing so, but they were not the only ones. Actually, who didn't Apple try to sue?

How do you not incorporate something that's the standard? How well would a Macbook sell with a dvorak keyboard? Not well at all.

The same can be said with Apple. It's obvious, they really didn't want to make the iP5 with a bigger screen. But screens larger than 3.5 are the new status quo and Apple has to follow.

Also, Apple acts like no other hardware design or UI created before the iPhone were similar, which plenty were. I'm pretty sure Apple didn't gain all it's ideas from thin air.

The status quo of the iPhone is rapidly dissipating. Soon enough, Apple might find itself following Samsung's way.

Didn't mean to be all over the place, just tired of all this copycat talk.