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appledes7

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No?

I didn't, I said why would one want to touch all four corners? Please read carefully.

But you did, I have bolded it to make it easier for you to see what you typed;



Please read and remember your own posts carefully.:rolleyes:

Understand context. That first quote you took out of context was in reference to you saying people don't want to touch all 4 corners of the display.

The second one you took out of context was in reference to the mini "test" I detailed earlier.

For most day to day operations, you don't need to be able to hit all 4 corners. To use a phone 100% of the time without ever having to adjust your grip, you do need to be able to hit all 4 corners. It is simple. Just understand context.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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Understand context. That first quote you took out of context was in reference to you saying people don't want to touch all 4 corners of the display.

Nope, why do you keep mis quoting me? I asked why. It's quite simple, go back and read what I said, I even repeated it for you on my last post and I will provide you with a quote, please read it carefully. Please quote me showing where I said "people don't want to touch all 4 corners on the display"

Why would one want to touch all four corners of the display?

The second one you took out of context was in reference to the mini "test" I detailed earlier.

For most day to day operations, you don't need to be able to hit all 4 corners. To use a phone 100% of the time without ever having to adjust your grip, you do need to be able to hit all 4 corners. It is simple. Just understand context.

I do understand context, just that you don't understand what you typed, I quoted you fully bolding the relevant piece, do you even know what context means? Try and keep up. Before you try and be clever and patronise members ("Please read carefully"), look at your own posts' you may not look as foolish next time.

But the question remains unanswered. Why do you need to be able to touch all four corners? Or do you still deny typing that? I bolded it again and quoted my original question to help you out.

Why would one want to touch all four corners of the display?
 
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appledes7

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Jul 12, 2011
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Nope, why do you keep mis quoting me? I asked why. It's quite simple, go back and read what I said, I even repeated it for you on my last post and I will provide you with a quote, please read it carefully. Please quote me showing where I said "people don't want to touch all 4 corners on the display"





I do understand context, just that you don't understand what you typed, I quoted you fully bolding the relevant piece, do you even know what context means? Try and keep up. Before you try and be clever and patronise members ("Please read carefully"), look at your own posts' you may not look as foolish next time.

But the question remains unanswered. Why do you need to be able to touch all four corners? Or do you still deny typing that? I bolded it again and quoted my original question to help you out.

You clearly keep misunderstanding everything I say. And at this point all you are doing is trying to argue with me.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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You clearly keep misunderstanding everything I say. And at this point all you are doing is trying to argue with me.

No, I didn't honestly wish to argue with you, I asked a simple question.

"Why would anyone want to touch all 4 corners of the screen"

All I am asking is an answer to your statement, it may be that there is something that I hadn't considered, it was IMHO a fair question and not a challenge, I had countered the point with why I thought that one didn't need too and was open to a counter debate.

Perhaps if you didn't patronise members with a snide comment ("please read carefully") the debate could have been concluded civilly.

I know that one handed use is important for some and can accept that fact, I use my phone almost exclusively one handed, but, it certainly isn't a deal breaker for me. (My phone is a SGS4).
 
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fr33 loader

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With a phone, I think there is a test to determine if it is too big for one handed use. Grab you phone with one hand. Get on your bed and lay on your back. Hold your phone up directly above your face. Without adjusting your grip, touch all 4 corners of the display. If you can do this without adjusting your grip, you can comfortably use your phone with one hand.

I think you've watched too much of that Apple Ad. Brain washing I say..
Comfort is a personal thing, my friend says txting with one hand is most uncomfortable for her.
 

appledes7

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Jul 12, 2011
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No, I didn't honestly wish to argue with you, I asked a simple question.

"Why would anyone want to touch all 4 corners of the screen"

All I am asking is an answer to your statement, it may be that there is something that I hadn't considered, it was IMHO a fair question and not a challenge, I had countered the point with why I thought that one didn't need too and was open to a counter debate.

Perhaps if you didn't patronise members with a snide comment ("please read carefully") the debate could have been concluded civilly.

I know that one handed use is important for some and can accept that fact, I use my phone almost exclusively one handed, but, it certainly isn't a deal breaker for me. (My phone is a SGS4).

I think you've watched too much of that Apple Ad. Brain washing I say..
Comfort is a personal thing, my friend says txting with one hand is most uncomfortable for her.

I think you two are both missing the point. But before I get to it, let me put fr33 loader's judgment to rest. I sold all my iOS devices in favor of Android devices. Why you assume I am brainwashed by Apple I have no idea. It is expected for Android users to blindly follow Google and iOS users to blindly follow Apple. But apparently it is so unheard of that an Android users says something even remotely negative about Android devices that you have to resort to saying they are brainwashed? That is pretty sad.

I do not buy my phone based on one handed use. I do not think you have to be able to reach all 4 corners of a phone to use it for basic functions. Most functions are basic and scrolling that are within easy reach of one thumb for those with normal sized hands even on a 5" phone.

When I was talking about needing to reach all 4 corners, it was in relation to holding your phone above you with gravity pulling it down towards your face in that "mini test" I brought up earlier. When you do that while laying on your back, you don't have gravity to aid in your grip adjustment. So doing that to see if you can reach all 4 corners is a good indicator to seeing if the phone is too big for 100% comfortable one-handed use without adjusting your grip.
 

Oohara

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Jun 28, 2012
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Are the details of what one handed use specifically entails really that important here? It's pretty obvious that those considering themselves able to comfortably use any Note-series device with one hand at all times are at least in the clear minority, I think we can all admit that.

It's a tradeoff, simple as that. Sometimes it bothers me that I can't just whip out my Note 2 and quick dial a friend or check the bus times with one hand. But overall I don't care. What I get instead more than makes up for it - a device that is far more portable than a tablet, while offering a screen large enough for much more comfortable reading, web surfing, watching Youtube vids or whatever than I ever get with an iPhone-size screen.

Can I use it comfortably with one hand, all the time? Nope. Does it fit comfortably in the pockets of all my pants? Nope. But does that matter? Nope. If that matters more to you than the advantages you get with a large phone screen - just get a smaller phone.
 

Savor

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Jun 18, 2010
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Smaller screen advantages over bigger screens -
-More pocketable
-Easier to use one-handed
-Easier to listen to music while exercising

Bigger screen advantages over smaller screens -
-Web browsing
-Better viewing for videos, photos, and books
-Better gaming experiences
-Ability to open multiple apps
-More immersive
-Easier to find if it gets lost (bigger physical attributes gives more awareness it is there)

There are trade-offs. For people who value more pocket-friendly phones, I can see why they stick to iPhones. For people who refuse viewing content and the web on such a small screen, I can see why they moved onto phablets.

LG claimed their G2 reaches the max dimension for one-handed use. I say 135-140mm height, 65-70mm width, and 7-10mm thickness is already the upper-end for one-handed use. But NOT all hand sizes are the same. An average hand can be too big for someone else. The current S4 and HTC One is like a middle ground for pocket-friendly one-handed use while getting some benefits of larger screened phablets.

GNotes are a middle ground of 3-4 incher phones vs 6-7 incher tablet experiences. There are tradeoffs to everything no different than getting a SUV vs Sedan/Coupe or 27-inch HDTV vs 50-inch HDTV for more of an IMMERSIVE experience. No right or wrong here. Depends on preferences and which benefits are you most comfortable with.
 
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