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Samsung Opens Up Orders for New 2024 Monitors, Including Updated Smart Monitor M8

ctyrider said:
Apple Studio Display is only a couple of years old, and includes fully redesigned chassis, camera, speakers. 5K IPS panels are still expensive - they are not "less than half when it was introduced".

LG 5K UlraFine displays sell for about the same price of $1.5K on Amazon right now.

What Apple charges for Studio Display is perfectly reasonable. If you can't afford it - go look for used models on eBay.
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I think it's a little overpriced. It's using the same LG panel from the 2016 Ultrafines, but with a brighter backlight (also used in the Intel iMacs starting in 2015). LG then priced their Ultrafine $100 less, because they knew people would compare it to the Studio Display.

It's a good monitor, but you can get a lot for that much from other manufacturers. It's just a case of Apple forcing you to pay a lot for their design and branding.
 
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I really dislike when manufacturers promote HDR on sub-1000 nit displays. 400 nits (most of them are 300 nits) is more of a standard brightness for an ok display, not really good for HDR (my 2007 Cinema display is 400 nits!). You need at least 1000 nits for a good HDR experience. Anything less than a 100 is what I call FakesDR.

Also, companies need to stop throwing "AI" at everything. I'm sure if not doing much more than image processor has been doing in TVs and displays for the last 2 decades.
 
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Edgecrusherr said:
I think it's a little overpriced. It's using the same LG panel from the 2016 Ultrafines, but with a brighter backlight (also used in the Intel iMacs starting in 2015). LG then priced their Ultrafine $100 less, because they knew people would compare it to the Studio Display.

It's a good monitor, but you can get a lot for that much from other manufacturers. It's just a case of Apple forcing you to pay a lot for their design and branding.
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No you can't.

Show me a 27" 5K display with Thunderbolt3 from a different manufacturer, which you can buy for substantially less money.

I will wait.
 
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HJM.NL said:
It’s not about affordability it’s about greediness and lack of updates. No wonder why it’s not a fast seller. Most people understand this. But there are always Timmy followers who kiss and cheer every time he ups the prices. But hey… you get an Apple logo on it. The display isn’t even invented by Apple itself.
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"Greediness"?? OK whatever. Free markets speak for themselves, especially in a relatively commoditized area like computer monitors. If another manufacturer could make a 5K Thunderbolt Display, charge half the price of Apple's display, and still be profitable - they would all jump on this opportunity, don't you think?

The fact is - there is no such thing as "cheap 5K Thunderbolt Display" on the market. I wonder why that is.. hmmmm.

Your posts are just a typical Internet forum moaning, not based on facts or reality.
 
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HJM.NL said:
At least Samsung delivers and Apple lags any progress in developing new studio displays.

Come on Apple… how old is the studio display??? Still charging same amount for this ancient tech? :mad:
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On paper, Samsung's flagship monitors are very tempting, because they're perhaps the best in the world.
In practice, there's so many quality control issues that buying a flagship monitor from Samsung is basically a gamble. You absolutely need an extended 5 years warranty.

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Last month I bought an OLED G9 on sale after reading SO MANY Q&C issues and thought "you know what, they're producing this monitor since quite a few months now, so they must have fixed all those flaws". Oh boy was I wrong...
When I unboxed it, I couldn't even do step 1 in the assembly manual, because the screw they gave me wasn't long enough (or more like : the screw socket was misplaced or dislodged). I contacted Samsung and they told me I had to pay for "experts" to assemble my monitor. This is a real joke. I'm an expert at assembling IKEA stuff, don't tell me I don't know how to assemble a monitor lol...

I returned it and will not buy again from them.
 
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ctyrider said:
"Greediness"?? OK whatever. Free markets speak for themselves, especially in a relatively commoditized area like computer monitors. If another manufacturer could make a 5K Thunderbolt Display, charge half the price of Apple's display, and still be profitable - they would all jump on this opportunity, don't you think?

The fact is - there is no such thing as "cheap 5K Thunderbolt Display" on the market. I wonder why that is.. hmmmm.

Your posts are just a typical Internet forum moaning, not based on facts or reality.
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And your post are typical Apple cheering instead of fact checking.
 
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$900 for a 250 nit OLED display? That sucks. I mean, the 360Hz part is great, but how are colors supposed to POP or get decent HDR with 250 nits?
 
HJM.NL said:
Oh please… monitors are aging like tv’s. There is newer tech around.
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I admit that I don’t follow tv advancement to really comment on that with confidence. But I get the impression tv’s get minor improvements each year to the processors, and picture quality doesn’t really seem to improve within the various classes (e.g. 4k compared to 4k) across a 5-year, maybe 10-year, span.

Again, I could be wrong there, but if a 15 year old 27-inch monitor from Apple still looks great (although resolution isn’t cutting edge) by comparison across the resolution class, what would be gained with a faster upgrade cycle? I suspect we’d get lower quality and a worse product. Something similar to Samsung.

Of course, I can see why you want a lower price for the same product, that makes sense (setting aside that Apple doesn’t often do that). But the thing that might (or might not) set Apple apart is that Apple spends a lot of time building a monitor (or any product). The result is a product that looks and feels like a quality product. Samsung displays aren’t really in the same category side-by-side (even fairly irrelevant tests like wiggling your desk are insightful, Samsung will sway side to side). So Apple, playing the long game with its goal of peerless quality, might be selling the monitors below their ideal profit margin for the first year or two, with the end goal of becoming a cash cow in the following years.

It’s just a thought. With my conclusion being, I am not prepared to side with your initial response, it did sound like a joke… I may have misinterpreted your sincerity.
 
ctyrider said:
"Greediness"?? OK whatever. Free markets speak for themselves, especially in a relatively commoditized area like computer monitors. If another manufacturer could make a 5K Thunderbolt Display, charge half the price of Apple's display, and still be profitable - they would all jump on this opportunity, don't you think?

The fact is - there is no such thing as "cheap 5K Thunderbolt Display" on the market. I wonder why that is.. hmmmm.

Your posts are just a typical Internet forum moaning, not based on facts or reality.
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There's the samsung viewfinity s9, which is half the price already. But really ugly, so ugly, I wouldn't want it for free.
 
Can you recommend any of these 27" for ~12h of work a day. Mainly Excel and Word, and maybe some graphic software time to time but need not to have super-duper colours. More budget-tier, more preferable.
 
HJM.NL said:
At least Samsung delivers and Apple lags any progress in developing new studio displays.

Come on Apple… how old is the studio display??? Still charging same amount for this ancient tech? :mad:
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You do realize in a lot of cases it’s just OEMs slapping a slightly modified plastic casing on the same panel with minor software tweaks?
 
HJM.NL said:
It’s not about affordability it’s about greediness and lack of updates. No wonder why it’s not a fast seller. Most people understand this. But there are always Timmy followers who kiss and cheer every time he ups the prices. But hey… you get an Apple logo on it. The display isn’t even invented by Apple itself.
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Translating to cars industry, Bentley and RR have new models every 10 years, Kia and Hyundai every 2-3. It is up to You to choose, I know what I prefer. 😎
 
MacLawyer said:
Is this a joke? What else do you want your display to do?
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Well, at least upgrade the camera. Why do Apple have to wait 5-6 years for a monitor design refresh to do that? Can’t they refresh some technologies as become available?
 
HJM.NL said:
At least Samsung delivers and Apple lags any progress in developing new studio displays.

Come on Apple… how old is the studio display??? Still charging same amount for this ancient tech? :mad:
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they should be releasing new display every 6 months or so with internet connectivity, built in apple tv or iPad.
there is so much Apple can do.
Make the display cheaper by making it smart display, show advertisements :)
 
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HJM.NL said:
At least Samsung delivers and Apple lags any progress in developing new studio displays.

Come on Apple… how old is the studio display??? Still charging same amount for this ancient tech? :mad:
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I am still using 27" thunderbolt display, still working great, i am happy.
it is just a monitor, shouldn't need updates every year.
 
HJM.NL said:
The same as it does right now for a more affordable price. The tech inside it is years and years old now. Meaning: Apple is able to get the inner parts for less than half when it was introduced. Would you pay the same for an iPhone or MacBook when it’s that old?
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by that logic in 4 years Apple should be able to give away the monitor for free ?
Where do you get the numbers from ?
 
These are all 4K... how are they described as "high resolution" EVER. They're most certainly not!
 
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HJM.NL said:
The same as it does right now for a more affordable price. The tech inside it is years and years old now. Meaning: Apple is able to get the inner parts for less than half when it was introduced. Would you pay the same for an iPhone or MacBook when it’s that old?
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The Studio Display came out two years ago.

Other manufacturers are still missing the mark in matching the Studio Display’s 5K. And not, 4K 43” isn’t close.
 
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