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I meant it within the context of someone being paid to discredit a company and its products as per the thread title.

Apparently though the term "pro apple hater" means something else entirely, at least according to this article:
here

I'm still waiting for the proof of that here (ala profiles) ..... ;)
 

SlCKB0Y

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Lets ban iOS users then... :confused:

That's not my assertion at all. I'm just stating that I don't believe the Android users to be the primary cause of any trolling in this subforum.

This was in response to someone saying there was too much infighting in here so let's get rid of this section. They implied that Android users were the cause.
 

SlCKB0Y

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I take from your demonstration of superior communication skills that you disagree?

What are you suggesting these supposed Android trolls are doing? Using the "Alternatives" subforum to troll other Android users?

Why aren't these hordes of Android trolls posting large numbers of threads in the "iPhone" subforum where they might actually get their moneys worth?

This subforum is so choked full of FUD and anti-Google misinformation it's becoming barely usable. If these kinds of threads and posts where anywhere else on macrumors they would be removed very quickly. Here, we have to deal with it. Every second thread in here is some iPhone user saying "I used Android on some crappy in-store demo model for about ten minutes and I hate it for all the reasons it's different from iPhone".
 
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alfistas

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Jun 28, 2012
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I take from your demonstration of superior communication skills that you disagree?

What are you suggesting these supposed Android trolls are doing? Using the "Alternatives" subsection to troll other Android users?

Pure genius. :rolleyes:


Thanks for editing your original post... :rolleyes:



I take from your demonstration of superior communication skills that you disagree?

What are you suggesting these supposed Android trolls are doing? Using the "Alternatives" subforum to troll other Android users?

Why aren't these hordes of Android trolls posting large numbers of threads in the "iPhone" subforum where they might actually get their moneys worth?

This subforum is so choked full of FUD and anti-Google misinformation it's becoming barely usable. If these kinds of threads and posts where anywhere else on macrumors they would be removed very quickly. Here, we have to deal with it. Every second thread in here is some iPhone user saying "I used Android on some crappy in-store demo model for about ten minutes and I hate it for all the reasons it's different from iPhone".

Some people have come to MR just to post on the Android subforum and iOS/Google related Front page threads. Why would anyone in their right mind join the largest Apple community on the internet to discuss Android? :confused:
This is what, in my opinion, makes them PROs. They don't concentrate on bashing iOS, but instead "advertise" the "amazing experiences" they've had with Android and how they've been filled with "confidence" ever since they made the "switch". To the trained eye, these are advertising terms and methodology. Mind you, I'm not saying Android is bad, evil, etc, but as an alternative OS it is more directed towards the PC loving crowd than Apple Macintosh users.

It is well known that Apple customers gain mid-upper class incomes which means they make the perfect target group for expensive hi-end Android devices like the GS3/4 and HTC one. Probably also the reason why you rarely hear these people discussing other handsets.

There is nothing Google would love more than Apple customers to switch to Android and finally make their Play store a viable App Store alternative for iOS developers. When that's done, Google can finally take on Microsoft with a true Desktop OS alternative.

All the above are just my personal opinion of course...
 
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OllyW

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This subforum is so choked full of FUD and anti-Google misinformation it's becoming barely usable. If these kinds of threads and posts where anywhere else on macrumors they would be removed very quickly. Here, we have to deal with it. Every second thread in here is some iPhone user saying "I used Android on some crappy in-store demo model for about ten minutes and I hate it for all the reasons it's different from iPhone".

This is what, in my opinion, makes them PROs. They don't concentrate on bashing iOS, but instead "advertise" the "amazing experiences" they've had with Android and how they've been filled with "confidence" ever since they made the "switch".

Just report these posts and we will investigate.
 

SlCKB0Y

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Some people have come to MR just to post on the Android subforum and iOS/Google related Front page threads. Why would anyone in their right mind join the largest Apple community on the internet to discuss Android?

I mean I don't know, do they actually do this? If they do then this is as equally pathetic.

The point is that there are a lot of people out there that use Apple AND Android gear (myself being one of them). I like having one forum where I can talk about both these types of devices.

I can respect that everyone has their own opinion and there is no such thing as a "wrong" one. What does tend to get me posting like a maniac is when people justify their opinions with factually incorrect statements, whether due to ignorance, a wish to troll or spread misinformation.

Almost all my posts in this subforum (and those of a lot of other users in the same class*) are correcting these types of factual errors...this is time wasted that we could have otherwise used to have a constructive discussion.

* By class I mean generally platform agnostic
 

samcraig

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I mean I don't know, do they actually do this? If they do then this is as equally pathetic.

The point is that there are a lot of people out there that use Apple AND Android gear (myself being one of them). I like having one forum where I can talk about both these types of devices.

I can respect that everyone has their own opinion and there is no such thing as a "wrong" one. What does tend to get me posting like a maniac is when people justify their opinions with factually incorrect statements, whether due to ignorance, a wish to troll or spread misinformation.

Almost all my posts in this subforum (and those of a lot of other users in the same class*) are correcting these types of factual errors...this is time wasted that we could have otherwise used to have a constructive discussion.

* By class I mean generally platform agnostic

Indeed. And it's tiring to be referred to directly or indirectly as a shill (paid or otherwise), hater, or whatever name gets thrown about.

Fact is - most of the people I see posting against FUD/potentially "pro" other tech are not shills at all. We (collectively) just respond to the crap that gets posted and at least try to respond with facts, links, etc.

It's a hard concept for some that people would chose to be more company agnostic and instead embrace the right tech for them - regardless of who makes it. Some people really do think that black/white.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
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I take from your demonstration of superior communication skills that you disagree?

What are you suggesting these supposed Android trolls are doing? Using the "Alternatives" subforum to troll other Android users?

Why aren't these hordes of Android trolls posting large numbers of threads in the "iPhone" subforum where they might actually get their moneys worth?

This subforum is so choked full of FUD and anti-Google misinformation it's becoming barely usable. If these kinds of threads and posts where anywhere else on macrumors they would be removed very quickly. Here, we have to deal with it. Every second thread in here is some iPhone user saying "I used Android on some crappy in-store demo model for about ten minutes and I hate it for all the reasons it's different from iPhone".

To be quite honest, yes. Its no longer an "Android vs iOS" conversation.....now you have "Samsung vs HTC". I'll be the first to admit, I'm not a Samsung fan - but I get blasted any time I make any type of critical remark about them (like they are perfect - seems rather ironic huh?).

Its entirely plausible there are Android users trolling other Android users, because now its no longer only a war of the OSes (although it still exists) - but a war of OEMs.

Samsung has become its own thing - despite still being an Android smartphone. Heck, I bet if you asked people who own a Galaxy phone, most would say it runs TouchWiz or some Samsung software and NOT Android.

But of course there are also those iOS users who come to troll and spew FUD as well. But don't pretend like Android users aren't doing so as well - and yes, to other Android users.

It's gotten real crazy.
 

Tinmania

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I have to say I agree 100% and this forum is a breath of fresh air. There are a couple trolls but on the most part it's fanatic free unlike some other sites.

The worst that I see here are from die-hard Apple fans. There are a few--and only a few--who can't see anything else but Apple. Any opinion contrary to Apple is dismissed as "paid shill," "why are you here then" (in this forum!) or as if it was treasonous.



Michael
 

fredaroony

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Aug 1, 2011
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The worst that I see here are from die-hard Apple fans. There are a few--and only a few--who can't see anything else but Apple. Any opinion contrary to Apple is dismissed as "paid shill," "why are you here then" (in this forum!) or as if it was treasonous.



Michael

Yet it's still a million times better than the lunatics at Appleinsider. They take fanboism to a whole new level and even the mods join in on the trolling.

There are also so many racist comments that seem to be allowed on that site and it's disgusting.
 
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alfistas

macrumors regular
Jun 28, 2012
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Helios Prime
The worst that I see here are from die-hard Apple fans. There are a few--and only a few--who can't see anything else but Apple. Any opinion contrary to Apple is dismissed as "paid shill," "why are you here then" (in this forum!) or as if it was treasonous.

Michael

Agreed! But lets not generalise too much... I'm sure you'll find some Android Trolls here as well. They're usually lurking at the back pages of iOS/Google related threads.

Michael

Yet it's still a million times better than the lunatics at Appleinsider. They take fanboism to a whole new level and even the mods join in on the trolling.

There are also so many racist comments that seem to be allowed on that site and it's disgusting.

I gotta see this! Any particular thread that I should be looking for?? :p
 

alfistas

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Jun 28, 2012
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Helios Prime
Any thread with China or Judge Koh involved would be a start but here is a recent one http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/15...erprise-tools-to-distribute-free-pirated-apps

There is a particularly cretinous poster that goes by Apple ][...this person is a real piece of work and a very nasty individual.

I agree. This is almost as bad as Phandroid.com and GSMArena. Well... Almost.

Here is a nice example by a user called dlads...


dlads
Apple will fall, and i will be a happy man when they do, they're selling crap which people just gobble up.

Closed source, controlling company with controlling OS', basic and static OS which has not changed for years on iphone.

If you buy apple you may as well get a tattoo with MUG written across your forehead.

Android gives, apple restricts.

Android lets you choose, apple chooses for you.

Only sheep should apply.


Source
 

paulsalter

macrumors 68000
Aug 10, 2008
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I agree. This is almost as bad as Phandroid.com and GSMArena. Well... Almost.

Here is a nice example by a user called dlads...


dlads
Apple will fall, and i will be a happy man when they do, they're selling crap which people just gobble up.

Closed source, controlling company with controlling OS', basic and static OS which has not changed for years on iphone.

If you buy apple you may as well get a tattoo with MUG written across your forehead.

Android gives, apple restricts.

Android lets you choose, apple chooses for you.

Only sheep should apply.


Source

no worse than a lot of posts in this forum

just look at any that mention Samsung
 

paulsalter

macrumors 68000
Aug 10, 2008
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UK
Especially when that "god forsaken" name is brought up in a thread in the News forum.

Indeed, that was mainly where i meant

Not surprising though, the "others" get a bad name around here and get the bad press, just like on sites for "the others" Apple gets a bad name

keeps me entertained though reading them (but it does remind me of OS X/Windows discussions from years ago)
 

fredaroony

macrumors 6502a
Aug 1, 2011
670
0
I agree. This is almost as bad as Phandroid.com and GSMArena. Well... Almost.

Here is a nice example by a user called dlads...


dlads
Apple will fall, and i will be a happy man when they do, they're selling crap which people just gobble up.

Closed source, controlling company with controlling OS', basic and static OS which has not changed for years on iphone.

If you buy apple you may as well get a tattoo with MUG written across your forehead.

Android gives, apple restricts.

Android lets you choose, apple chooses for you.

Only sheep should apply.


Source

Check out some of the psychotic ramblings of this fool http://forums.appleinsider.com/newsearch?Search=SEARCH&action=disp&advanced=1&byuser=Apple+%5D%5B&newer=1&numupdates=&order=descending&replycompare=gt&sdate=0&search=&sort=relevance&titleonly=0&type=36&start=25
 
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