Samsung's 2014 flagship to have 2,560x1,440 display and 16 MP camera

[Brandon263]

"Samsung Electronics reportedly will launch flagship smartphone models equipped with 64-bit CPUs, WQHD displays and 16-megapixel cameras in 2014, which will further heat up hardware competition in the smartphone segment, according to industry sources.

The sources indicated that Samsung Display and Japan Display will begin volume production of WQHD displays soon which will enable WQHD to become the mainstream display standard for high-end smartphones in 2014.

Following the steps of Apple's A7 CPU, Samsung and Qualcomm both are expected to roll out 64-bit processors in 2014, which are likely to be adopted in quad-core or 8-core smartphones, added the sources.

Additionally, most flagship smartphones launched by vendors in 2014 are expected to be equipped with 16-megapixel cameras compared to 13-megapixel models used currently, the sources remarked."


http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131107PD209.html

 

[Brazzan]

I'm not sure I see the benefits of more megapixels on either the screen or camera. Much better to focus on better low light photos & longer battery life.

 

[appledes7]

I'm not sure I see the benefits of more megapixels on either the screen or camera. Much better to focus on better low light photos & longer battery life.

I see the advantage of a higher pixel count on a camera. The Lumia 1020 showed the advantages of over sampling. However, more pixels than 1920X1080 on a ~5" screen is bordering unnecessary. It just drains battery quicker with no immediate discernible difference.

 

[Brazzan]

I see the advantage of a higher pixel count on a camera. The Lumia 1020 showed the advantages of over sampling.

That's on a sensor with 4x the area of the Samsung S4, though (IIRC). Perhaps I should have been more careful with my wording: what I meant was that more, smaller pixels isn't necessarily better. If you scale up the sensor at the same time, it's fine.

 

[appledes7]

That's on a sensor with 4x the area of the Samsung S4, though (IIRC). Perhaps I should have been more careful with my wording: what I meant was that more, smaller pixels isn't necessarily better. If you scale up the sensor at the same time, it's fine.

Yes I agree with that. Ultimately it would be great if every manufacturer worked on larger pixels or same sized pixels with a larger sensor.

 

[ReanimationN]

An even higher resolution? Why?? They should concentrate on making the current experience with 1080p screens as good as possible first.

 

[Bishope1999]

I'm not sure I see the benefits of more megapixels on either the screen or camera. Much better to focus on better low light photos & longer battery life.

Well, since these cell phone cameras don't offer any optical zoom, a higher MP cam will offer a better option to those who normally would have zoomed into an area with an optical zoom.

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An even higher resolution? Why?? They should concentrate on making the current experience with 1080p screens as good as possible first.

No need to stop technology where it's it. 1080p screens look great, but once we get to see the higher resolution screens even on the phones, we'll see what we were missing with the 1080p screens. Just think of the visual advancements between qhd, 720p and 1080p on phones.

They also could stop trying to make these phones so thin. If they do, they'll be able to pack in larger batteries.

 

[nfl46]

Sounds reasonable. That seems like a 2014 device, well of course, Apple won't do it just yet...but for spec whores, sounds on par to what you should expect.

 

[undesign]

They also could stop trying to make these phones so thin. If they do, they'll be able to pack in larger batteries.

They should make batteries last that last longer instead of relying on making them bigger. Everything has progressed in technology except for batteries.

 

[Bishope1999]

They should make batteries last that last longer instead of relying on making them bigger. Everything has progressed in technology except for batteries.

I see the biggest problem is that all these companies continue to try to make these smart phones thinner and thinner and they continue to sacrifice battery life for the thin factor. Sure it would be great if they advanced battery technology, but what would it be worth if those advances were loss by letting the manufactures use a 50% thinner battery, to make the phone even thinner, and in the end you get the same performance?

 

[Irishman]

Well, since these cell phone cameras don't offer any optical zoom, a higher MP cam will offer a better option to those who normally would have zoomed into an area with an optical zoom.

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No need to stop technology where it's it. 1080p screens look great, but once we get to see the higher resolution screens even on the phones, we'll see what we were missing with the 1080p screens. Just think of the visual advancements between qhd, 720p and 1080p on phones.

They also could stop trying to make these phones so thin. If they do, they'll be able to pack in larger batteries.

Did you know that if you sit further than 7'-8' away from a 50-55" HDTV, you won't see all the detail that 1080p offers? Higher resolution regardless of screen size or viewing distance does not carry with it immediate picture quality benefit, where it concerns video.

 

[Bishope1999]

Did you know that if you sit further than 7'-8' away from a 50-55" HDTV, you won't see all the detail that 1080p offers? Higher resolution regardless of screen size or viewing distance does not carry with it immediate picture quality benefit, where it concerns video.

Yes, that's why when I watch movies I have a rule of sitting 1 foot away for every 10 inches. I sit 6 feet away from my 65 inch tv because I do like to appreciate the quality of the picture. Same way I don't sit all the way in the back roll of the theater.

 

[Irishman]

Yes, that's why when I watch movies I have a rule of sitting 1 foot away for every 10 inches. I sit 6 feet away from my 65 inch tv because I do like to appreciate the quality of the picture. Same way I don't sit all the way in the back roll of the theater.

And UHD (4K) TVs are going to be even worse! Anything smaller than 84" at the same viewing distance people sit now with 1080p TVs will be useless!

So how close do you figure you'll have to hold a 5" phone screen to see its higher resolution with video?

 

[Chodite]

And UHD (4K) TVs are going to be even worse! Anything smaller than 84" at the same viewing distance people sit now with 1080p TVs will be useless!

So how close do you figure you'll have to hold a 5" phone screen to see its higher resolution with video?

I've gotta argue this point. I sat 3 feet from a 60" UHD 4K display last week and was absolutely floored by the content.

 

[scott craft]

I would like there to be more focus on better battery technology and improve the current 1080P screens instead of increasing the resolution even more. I don't think the average person will be able to tell the difference beyond 1080P.

 

[tbayrgs]

I've gotta argue this point. I sat 3 feet from a 60" UHD 4K display last week and was absolutely floored by the content.

Alright, but who sits 3' from their 60" TV? If you need to sit that close, the problem isn't the TV.

 

[Chodite]

Alright, but who sit's 3' from their 60" TV? If you need to sit that close, the problem isn't the TV.

Agreed. But the point is, even sitting that close - the difference is very noticeable.

 

[Irishman]

Agreed. But the point is, even sitting that close - the difference is very noticeable.

But you wouldn't sit that close to it at home. How far back do you sit from your HDTV at home?

 

[tbayrgs]

Agreed. But the point is, even sitting that close - the difference is very noticeable.

But if you're never going to actually sit that close, what is the benefit?

 

[Chodite]

But you wouldn't sit that close to it at home. How far back do you sit from your HDTV at home?

6-9 ft. And I'll gladly test a 4K TV in my home to check the quality

 

[Bishope1999]

And UHD (4K) TVs are going to be even worse! Anything smaller than 84" at the same viewing distance people sit now with 1080p TVs will be useless!

So how close do you figure you'll have to hold a 5" phone screen to see its higher resolution with video?

You don't have to sit that close to see the difference. Once you know what to look for, it will be clearly visible. It's like those people who say that for a 21 inch tv/monitors, it doesn't matter if it's 720p or 1080p because you won't see a difference. That is not true.

I usually have my Galaxy S4 about 8 inches away from me. I don't like watching movies on phones but I test out clips. I can tell you that it is easy to spot the compression artifacts from the digital 1080p video and see how there is no visible compression on the few clips I've taken from my Blu-ray movies and added them to my phone. So with a higher resolution, the next phone will look sharper and more detailed than my current Galaxy S4.

If I were to buy a 65 inch 4k tv, place it next to my current 1080p 65 inch tv. Then I would play 4k Blu-ray video on the 4k tv and the same regular Blu-ray movie on my 1080p tv, I'm 100% sure I will notice the difference. Why? Even though I don't know it now, there is a lot of information that is missing from the 1080p Blu-ray videos I'm seeing as oppose to all the extra detail that will be available on the 2160p Blu-ray discs and tv. We just don't know it now because we don't have those set ups, but you don't need an 84 inch tv to appreciate 4k

 

[Brazzan]

I can tell you that it is easy to spot the compression artifacts from the digital 1080p video and see how there is no visible compression on the few clips I've taken from my Blu-ray movies and added them to my phone. So with a higher resolution, the next phone will look sharper and more detailed than my current Galaxy S4.

Compression artefacts are a different thing to resolution, though. An over - compressed HD video stream could easily look worse than a DVD, let alone a blu-ray. Better compression would improve the experience far more than more pixels.

 

[Bishope1999]

Compression artefacts are a different thing to resolution, though. An over - compressed HD video stream could easily look worse than a DVD, let alone a blu-ray. Better compression would improve the experience far more than more pixels.

Sure, just trying to make the point that things are noticeable even on such a small screen like a 5 inch phone.

If need be, I can tell the difference of video I record on the 720p setting on the Galaxy S4 and when I record them with the 1080p option. The 720p video looks much softer because of the lower resolution. So I do see a benefit to a higher display Galaxy S5 for example. Either for videos or just with what the phone offers. Also adding to the fact that 4k video recording is available on some smart phones now.

 

[Technarchy]

Sounds neat but what about battery tech. That's infinitely more valuable than an ultra high resolution on a small display.

 

[WilliamBateman]

"Samsung Electronics reportedly will launch flagship smartphone models equipped with 64-bit CPUs, WQHD displays and 16-megapixel cameras in 2014, which will further heat up hardware competition in the smartphone segment, according to industry sources.

The sources indicated that Samsung Display and Japan Display will begin volume production of WQHD displays soon which will enable WQHD to become the mainstream display standard for high-end smartphones in 2014.

Following the steps of Apple's A7 CPU, Samsung and Qualcomm both are expected to roll out 64-bit processors in 2014, which are likely to be adopted in quad-core or 8-core smartphones, added the sources.

Additionally, most flagship smartphones launched by vendors in 2014 are expected to be equipped with 16-megapixel cameras compared to 13-megapixel models used currently, the sources remarked."


http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131107PD209.html

This is garbage! I demand a 12 inch 4k resolution display with no less than 2,473ppi, no less than 12 cores, the ability to wirelessly transfer 4k quality movies to my television, a 54 megapixel camera and 22GB of RAM!

Seriously though, this is getting out of hand. Its a PHONE! Most people couldn't care less about specs, much less tell you the resolution, ppi, amount of RAM or the megapixels in the phone they have, they care about the user experience. This is why Apple can sell millions of iPhones the weekend its released while every other phone with twice the specs sits around on store shelves. These companies just don't get it.