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iW00t

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I think it is quite reasonable to say that the MBPs are going to get updated sometime in the next 3-4 months. What kind of specs would you expect to see?
 

kalayci

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I chat with few folks at the apple store and they are thinking that if there will be an upgrade it will be summer time. He said this from sales perspective saying that during summer time computer sales go up and new technologies become available to boost summer sales.

They also said that I wouldn't believe how many people purchase apple laptops for graduation gifts.

Anyways, there is so much in the pipeline about to come out nest few months.

Leopard
new apps 07 versions
santa rosa upgrade

I am waiting for a higher resolution screen something like 1920X1200 and santa rosa upgrade. The day those two upgrades take place I will be first in line to get a MBP. :rolleyes:
 

iW00t

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Leopard
new apps 07 versions
santa rosa upgrade

I am waiting for a higher resolution screen something like 1920X1200 and santa rosa upgrade. The day those two upgrades take place I will be first in line to get a MBP. :rolleyes:

Nevermind iLife 07, speed bumps and anything else. The screen and Leopard alone are good reasons! Especially if they use that so called OLED technology for the screens.
 

kalayci

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I still can't believe that MBP 17 has such resolution. A company focuses on visual effects, design etc so much and on the other hand their top of the line laptop has a resolution most consider average.

I am hoping they will do something about this pretty soon. Even Dell has 1920x1200 resolution on a 15.4" laptop.

Anyways
OLED screen and a boost from santa rosa will be fantastic upgrade. :)
 

Scarlet Fever

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Don't OLED displays have a shorter life than normal LCD displays?

I reckon they might be doing a new case design. If it isn't a complete redesign, making the case a gunmetal colour would be awesome. A new keyboard may be in the works. People here seem to think it will be integrated like the MacBook.

Spec-wise, i think they'll have Santa Rosa, up to 4GB RAM, HD-DVD/BluRay option (superdrive standard), higher res displays, up to 2.66GHz chips, but if the C2Q are cool enough they'll use those.

What do ya reckon?
 

iW00t

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Don't OLED displays have a shorter life than normal LCD displays?

I reckon they might be doing a new case design. If it isn't a complete redesign, making the case a gunmetal colour would be awesome. A new keyboard may be in the works. People here seem to think it will be integrated like the MacBook.

Spec-wise, i think they'll have Santa Rosa, up to 4GB RAM, HD-DVD/BluRay option (superdrive standard), higher res displays, up to 2.66GHz chips, but if the C2Q are cool enough they'll use those.

What do ya reckon?

HD-DVD/BluRay drives?

I sure hope the machines can be BTOed to remove those drives. Everything sounds good though, especially the gunmetal casing... :eek:

I was actually wondering what the next upgrade will bring, since we now have 1gb and 2gb of memory standard, as well as 120gb of hard drive standard, wouldn't it be a safe bet to assume that for the next upgrade we'd get more?

Anyway are you sure that OLED displays have a shorter lifespan? I always thought LED is more power saving & longer lasting than the cathode tubes.
 

Scarlet Fever

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Anyway are you sure that OLED displays have a shorter lifespan? I always thought LED is more power saving & longer lasting than the cathode tubes.

I just had a look at the Wiki page about OLED displays;
Wikipedia said:
The biggest technical problem left to overcome has been the limited lifetime of the organic materials. Particularly, blue OLEDs typically have lifetimes of around 5,000 hours when used for flat panel displays, which is lower than typical lifetimes of LCD or Plasma technology. However, recent experimentation has shown that it's possible to swap the chemical component for a phosphorescent one, if the subtle differences in energy transitions are accounted for, resulting in lifetimes of up to 20,000 hours for blue PHOLEDs

20,000 hours sounds good; much better than 5000 hours
 

Scarlet Fever

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How long do our standard laptop LCD screens last?

*suddenly has evil thoughts about his 9C60*

not sure... i looked on Wiki for it but couldn't find any info. If it's anything to go by, the display on my 2002 TiBook still works like it did when I got it :rolleyes:
 

kalayci

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I will be happy if we just get a resolution upgrade like 1920 x 1200 on 17" models. ATI X1900 graphics chipset would be a nice touch as well. :)
 

iW00t

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Lol, not a snowballs chance chance in hell: "The new MacBook Pro Aero - the replication of a jetplane taking off, only louder and hotter!"

I am sure ATi has some newer cards that are faster and produces less heat.

X1600 is a 2 year old card. In the graphics world that is almost 3 generations!
 

4np

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Nevermind iLife 07, speed bumps and anything else. The screen and Leopard alone are good reasons! Especially if they use that so called OLED technology for the screens.

You also know that OLEDs have a limited lifetime? Untill that is solved I don't think an OLED screen is feasible:

[edit]Scarlet Fever beat me to quoting wikipedia ;)[/edit]
 

Skrilla™

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I don't understand all the fuss over the resolution. 1920x1200 on a 15" or 17" laptop has to leave you squinting. I had a (17") Dell Precision M90 w/ 1440x900 and thought it was great, although 1680x1050 may have been better.

My Dell 2005FPW (20" LCD) has 1680x1050 and it is perfect, can't imagine shrinking the screen 3" and then cranking up the res to 1920x1200 :eek:
 

4np

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What I want in my next MPB?

1. Santa Rosa (with Robson caching amongst others)
2. Higher resolution and better quality displays
3. Better GPU (either nvidia or ati, I don't care which one as long as it's a PRO gpu instead of a mid segment GPU)
4. Blueray/HD-DVD standard or BTO

I also read about these speaker issues with the 15"mbp so I hope they'll fix that as well...

For the rest I don't have too many wishes about the MBP ;)
 

4np

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Skrilla™;3267622 said:
I don't understand all the fuss over the resolution. 1920x1200 on a 15" or 17" laptop has to leave you squinting.

You are probably forgetting that Leopard is resolution independant. You don't have to squint; your screen will just be a lot sharper.

Resolution Independence
The old assumption that displays are 72dpi has been rendered obsolete by advances in display technology. Macs now ship with displays that sport native resolutions of 100dpi or better. Furthermore, the number of pixels per inch will continue to increase dramatically over the next few years. This will make displays crisper and smoother, but it also means that interfaces that are pixel-based will shrink to the point of being unusable. The solution is to remove the 72dpi assumption that has been the norm. In Leopard, the system, including the Carbon and Cocoa frameworks, will be able to draw user interface elements using a scale factor. This will let the user interface maintain the same physical size while gaining resolution and crispness from high dpi displays.
source: http://developer.apple.com/leopard/overview/
 

MacDonaldsd

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I think the next update will be more of spec bump rather than a overhaul.

Surely the next gen disc drives Blu-ray/HD-DVD will be in the mac pro before the MacBook Pro ?

I really do hope it doesn't get a MacBook Keyboard I really don't like them.
 

BillyShears

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A new keyboard may be in the works. People here seem to think it will be integrated like the MacBook.

As I understand it, this is because if they redesign the case, they're probably going to go for the magnetic latch design so it can look as smooth as the MacBooks do. If they do this, there is such little space between the keyboard and the screen when the notebook is closed that the keyboard has to be specially designed. I think that's how the logic goes, anyway.

I've never used the magnetic latch, but it looks damn good -- no "holes" or protrusions in the laptop, aside from the iSight.

My guesses:
  • Magnetic latch
  • MacBook-style keyboard
  • Removable HDD
  • Higher resolution screen
  • New "design"/material (?)

I think the screen will be higher resolution because of the resolution independence. This was demonstrated on the iPhone, which I believe has a pretty high resolution compared to the physical size of the screen. I think Jobs said it was the highest resolution screen Apple has ever shipped or something?

I think it might also be possible for a new look altogether. First because the MBP is a pretty old design, they might be looking to switch it up. But also, the look of the iPhone is different from their other products. I wonder if it isn't an indicator of the look of the new MBPs? It kind of reminds me of the black MacBook and maybe one of the old G4 PowerMacs? I'm not sure, but I think there could be a new "pro" look for the new MBPs.
 

aaronw1986

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I've never used the magnetic latch, but it looks damn good -- no "holes" or protrusions in the laptop, aside from the iSight.

My guesses:
  • Magnetic latch
  • MacBook-style keyboard
  • Removable HDD
  • Higher resolution screen
  • New "design"/material (?)
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Eww, I don't want the macbook keyboard on a MBP, I prefer the keyboard the way it is.
 

Zengetsu

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Jan 19, 2007
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I'm in the year long process of buying a MBP, My problem is I read too many Blogs and reviews and forums which leaves one with too much expectations.
As it stands now, there still seems much to be desired in the MBP and too much of a demand for certain specs that seem to be on the Horizon(blueray,Screen Res, Graph Card HDD replacability ect.) I'm a young singer songwriter, and I have an alotted amount of money to spend on my recording equip. I Really need portability, but the Mac pro seems more of a viable and upgradable choice.
I wanted to buy a MBP today but it seems as though there is a myriad of contentions with this. Please speak up if I stand to be corrected. Or are we all a little too Picky?
This is an expensive machine.
What do you think Guys?
 
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