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Leeds

macrumors newbie
Jan 13, 2007
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Calgary, Alberta
I'm in the year long process of buying a MBP, My problem is I read too many Blogs and reviews and forums which leaves one with too much expectations.
As it stands now, there still seems much to be desired in the MBP and too much of a demand for certain specs that seem to be on the Horizon(blueray,Screen Res, Graph Card HDD replacability ect.) I'm a young singer songwriter, and I have an alotted amount of money to spend on my recording equip. I Really need portability, but the Mac pro seems more of a viable and upgradable choice.
I wanted to buy a MBP today but it seems as though there is a myriad of contentions with this. Please speak up if I stand to be corrected. Or are we all a little too Picky?
This is an expensive machine.
What do you think Guys?

Same thing for me m8, just replace "Singer-songwriter" with "Photographer."

Don't really know what to do, I suppose, what it comes down to is: If you need it, buy it. If you don't mind waiting, do it and see what's on the horizon.
 

Butthead

macrumors 6502
Jan 10, 2006
440
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I just had a look at the Wiki page about OLED displays;


20,000 hours sounds good; much better than 5000 hours

Who uses a laptop for 20k hrs???
"I believe they are currently about ready to show an organic blue with a 50k hrs @200 nits molecule (rumour).

If true, that would give the OLED display a lifespan (8hrs/day) of ~3.25 years @ 500nits.
One thing to remember though, OLEDs are much less expensive to manufacture than LEDs...
"
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4603&commentid=73068&threshhold=1&red=5536#comments

I wouldn't expect Apple to use bleeding edge tech that has not yet been refined enough. Best bet would be backlit LED, LCD screens.

But sometime in the future, it will be either a variation of OLED or SED, the power savings and thinner panels will make it so.

http://www.universaldisplay.com/press/PRESS-2006-1-12.htm


Oct 2006

Samsung Shows Off 12mm Thick AMOLED Display (panel is only 1.8mm thick!)

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4603


From Nov5, 2005:

14-inch OLED displays through inkjet printing

http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/05/14-inch-oled-displays-through-inkjet-printing/

read post from the thread on the story here:

http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/05/14-inch-oled-displays-through-inkjet-printing/comments/736489/

Don't think we'll see a 64GB SSD in the Santa Rosa update this spring, but I still want one when the price comes down (maybe later this year, or a 128GB version).
 

whosgotsoul

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Dec 29, 2006
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I just bought my wife a Macbook today and will buy myself the Macbook Pro when they release the next generation "Santa Rosa" model. I've only been using this Macbook for a few hours and absolutely love it! OSX rocks! I can't wait to get my hands on a MBP in the summer! I'll never use Windows again!

I'm hoping that the next gen MBP will include a blue-ray player/writer; express card slot; 1.3 megapixel iSight; better screen w/o grain issues; better video card; upto 4 GB RAM supported by whatever Santa Rosa board they build with...etc etc.

The new platform alone will provide better performance: faster front-side bus...hopefully a 2.4 GHZ C2D/2 GB RAM base-model.

Although, right now I'm happy using this 13" Macbook...it's a pretty damn fine machine!
 

iW00t

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Nov 7, 2006
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I just bought my wife a Macbook today and will buy myself the Macbook Pro when they release the next generation "Santa Rosa" model. I've only been using this Macbook for a few hours and absolutely love it! OSX rocks! I can't wait to get my hands on a MBP in the summer! I'll never use Windows again!

I'm hoping that the next gen MBP will include a blue-ray player/writer; express card slot; 1.3 megapixel iSight; better screen w/o grain issues; better video card; upto 4 GB RAM supported by whatever Santa Rosa board they build with...etc etc.

The new platform alone will provide better performance: faster front-side bus...hopefully a 2.4 GHZ C2D/2 GB RAM base-model.

Although, right now I'm happy using this 13" Macbook...it's a pretty damn fine machine!

It sounds corny but who here would rather prefer 4gb of ram standard and no bluray drive in favor of say 2gb standard and bluray drive?

Of course we might also have 4gb standard with bluray standard but that is just impossible :eek:
 

TraceyS/FL

macrumors 601
Jan 11, 2007
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North Central Florida
What about HD DVDs? Are those drives cheaper?

I remember reading about a HP laptop that costs no more than the MBP but it had a HD DVD drive.

I've seen that too, and not only that - if you read the Home Theater stuff, HD DVD is the better cleaner picture over Blue Ray - which is MPEG2 my Dad tells me (i have an article sitting behind me to read). HD DVD while superior in Video Q, doesn't have the right people behind it I gather.

I'd rather NOT have Blu-Ray as a standard unless it was done without a price increase.
 

Eraserhead

macrumors G4
Nov 3, 2005
10,434
12,250
UK
I think

1Mhz 68000 processor
640kb RAM
1MB Hard Drive
Mac OS

Sound like good specs.

Only joking.
 

MacDonaldsd

macrumors 65816
Sep 8, 2005
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London , UK
HD-DVD drives are cheaper, but the storage of the disc is considerably less than blu-ray. So depends on if people want the drives for purely watching hi-def video or for storage aswell.
 

TraceyS/FL

macrumors 601
Jan 11, 2007
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North Central Florida
50gb vs 30gb i believe. To which the parental unit keeps saying - well, you need bigger to store MPEG2 vs MPEG4 LOL!! (I hear this at least once a week right now).

The space would be nice, but the flip side of the Quality is interesting too.

That just means that my 2006 would have been on 1 DVD instead of 9 :D
 

MacDonaldsd

macrumors 65816
Sep 8, 2005
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50gb vs 30gb i believe. To which the parental unit keeps saying - well, you need bigger to store MPEG2 vs MPEG4 LOL!! (I hear this at least once a week right now).

The space would be nice, but the flip side of the Quality is interesting too.

That just means that my 2006 would have been on 1 DVD instead of 9 :D

Not that I claim to keep up with the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray war as much as some, Ive also heard that due to HD-DVD using a better codec the quality is actually better even though it takes up less space.
 

diadem

macrumors regular
Nov 13, 2006
139
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Glasgow
I Think your all geting ahead of your selfs here. Blu-Ray or HD-DVD in 3/4 months, you really gotta be joking. Ok I might not be strech to so it could be an optional external driver.
As standard not going to hapen there only one chip set out there that does blu-ray and HD DVD, But not standard CD and DVD Roms. So i will not be puting a HD DVD or Blu-ray reader in to my laptop shall be sticking with my 360's HD DVD drive thanks.

There really wil not be much of an upgrade with Santa Rosa 800Mhz FSB CPU's will be the same, the heat issue will not negate its self just over a faster FSB and new chip set. Graphics up grade I dont expect to see that either these computers ( me being on my MBP right now ) are not designed for next gen gaming graphics. There for A/V Work and thats about it, Ok some of us do put on bootcamp and play the likes of CS:S, EVE, WoW( and in OSx ), Flat out 2 :D. But this is not what they are marketed for, I would like then to make all games compatible with the OSx Platform but thats for anouther day.

Santa rosa is not going to be what everyone expects and its not going to bring all that much to Apple. In the way of upgrades not on the Laptop front anyway.
I'll eat my words if im wrong but it will be the same Merom CPU's with a faster FSB and a Max of 4Gb ram. HDD capacity again not much change there either you can get 250 and 300Gb 2.5" laptop drives right now so meh.

PS. This thread aint about Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD guys
 

iW00t

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I Think your all geting ahead of your selfs here. Blu-Ray or HD-DVD in 3/4 months, you really gotta be joking. Ok I might not be strech to so it could be an optional external driver.
As standard not going to hapen there only one chip set out there that does blu-ray and HD DVD, But not standard CD and DVD Roms. So i will not be puting a HD DVD or Blu-ray reader in to my laptop shall be sticking with my 360's HD DVD drive thanks.

Why are we joking? PeeCees already got them, LAST YEAR!

Same deal with LED displays!
 

diadem

macrumors regular
Nov 13, 2006
139
0
Glasgow
Why are we joking? PeeCees already got them, LAST YEAR!

Same deal with LED displays!
$1,149US for one might a I add thats a joke mate for a drive that does the old CD type plus only one of the new standards. The cheapist i have seen them was about $600US.
Im not going to pay that just to get a Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive in to my latop
 

jrea

macrumors newbie
Nov 2, 2006
17
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50gb vs 30gb i believe. To which the parental unit keeps saying - well, you need bigger to store MPEG2 vs MPEG4 LOL!! (I hear this at least once a week right now).

The space would be nice, but the flip side of the Quality is interesting too.

That just means that my 2006 would have been on 1 DVD instead of 9 :D

BOTH HD DVD, and BluRay are capable of storing for playback, the MPEG-2, Video Codec 1, H.264 and MPEG-4 AVC codecs. The quality issues between HD DVD and BluRay were due to the first gen BluRay players, not the optical media. Both medias store identical content.
 

jonnysods

macrumors G3
Sep 20, 2006
8,625
7,188
There & Back Again
So, as the initial thread was to be about - what about Santa Rosa? I am 1-2 months away from pulling the trigger on a 17" refurb MBP and I am wondering what you peeps thought about a possible update, mainly GPU and CPU.

I don't even know how close they*are to releasing this thing at intel let along the time it takes for it to hit Apple just like Merom. It went in the iMac line up, then 2 months later the MBP's. So whenever they mass produce we would all have to hold on a few months until we saw something. Then you blueray HD DVD guys could see price reductions etc. I don't care about HD DVD or blue ray until they make the screen res 1900 x 1200 on the MBP's anyways. Should make it look sweeter.

Just my two cents. Now I'll wait for you all to pick apart my spelling, grammar and all that! :p
 

ktbubster

macrumors 6502a
Jan 20, 2007
794
1
US
random

Random thing... but as far as blue ray vs. hddvd, I read somewhere, maybe even on this forum that the porn industry recently announced or communally decided to go with HDdvd so that might ... in years down the line... mean HDDVD is going to come out on top.

Just saying, as apparently the porn industry chose VHS over Betamax and that had a lot to do with VHS coming out on top.

Just a little tidbit in saying that it's pretty early in the game to know what will really be that "fantastic" or more standard in the next few years.
 

iW00t

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BOTH HD DVD, and BluRay are capable of storing for playback, the MPEG-2, Video Codec 1, H.264 and MPEG-4 AVC codecs. The quality issues between HD DVD and BluRay were due to the first gen BluRay players, not the optical media. Both medias store identical content.

Does this mean that first gen players won't be able to playback higher density future generation media?
 

MACDRIVE

macrumors 68000
Feb 17, 2006
1,695
3
Clovis, California
Why are you guys talking about a new MBP already? We haven't even got to Revision B,C,D, or E yet.

The main thing I would like to see is an MBP made in Germany. Yeah really, how about some quality workmanship for a change? :cool:
 

typerlover

macrumors regular
Dec 31, 2006
115
1
I would not count on anything new coming out in anything less than four more months. Processors right now are near the top, and even if they fall behind it won't be by too much in that time frame, if any at all for the mobile market. GPU of course is bad, but it was bad last fall when they went c2d so it is seen to be efficient.

Since it looks like they just changed the board around a bit to accomated those c2d processors, I feel like the current model was done to satisfy the current market. I am betting the next model will have a few significant changes, but because of the preceding reasons I imagine it to be a significant ways away.
 
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