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Maybe they'll add in the missing iPod dock. You should be able to stick your iPod in it and sync to iTunes wirelessly or play your iPod music directly through your home speakers.

It would fill the gap somewhat from dropping the Hi-Fi.
 
basically what i reckon is that the main event will be about the touchscreen iPod and the new nano's....."one more thing" will be about the appletv (or this is swapped with the touchscreen iPod) and they'll announce the USB is now open for iPod's (when you connect and iPod it'll appear in the sources list)...they'll also add some of the many features that have been requested...all of this in a software update. Possibly a new version of the appletv aswell. But i can't think of anything they will do there.
 
...you could make a pretty strong case for Apple releasing an entry-level, budget :apple:TV with no hard-drive whatsoever.

Agreed. While initially I had concerns about the 40GB drive, I now realize that everything I watch on it is streamed. I almost never copy anything the the :apple:TV drive.
 
Agreed. While initially I had concerns about the 40GB drive, I now realize that everything I watch on it is streamed. I almost never copy anything the the :apple:TV drive.

Exactly, the only thing I have synced to mine apple TV is the music, and thats just really so I don't have to keep iTunes open 100% of the time.

All the movies and such are just streamed through the gigabit network, I bypassed the "n" all together.
 
...you could make a pretty strong case for Apple releasing an entry-level, budget :apple:TV with no hard-drive whatsoever. As 802.11n becomes increasingly established among home users I think this could be a real, and very shrewd, addition to the :apple:TV product line-up.

Sod the hard drive, I say. I doubt that Apple are that concerned with the profit made on the :apple:TV units themselves. The :apple:TV is designed to extend the range of the iTunes ecosystem into the living room. An :apple:TV minus hard-drive could be introduced at a much lower cost while keeping the same form-factor and thus facilitating a user upgrade for all the :apple:TV hackers and modders out there.

The more I think about it the more I am convinced that this is the only way for :apple:TV to avoid going the same way as the iPod Hi-Fi.

My tuppence worth.

Derwood
That's a very small market... That's a market that doesn't want to spend the extra money for the hard drive in their :apple:TV but wants to spend the extra money on a wireless N router.
 
So you're suggesting Apple will introduce the new iMac Chin? :D Doesn't the mac mini serve this purpose? I don't think Apple will introduce another headless Mac.

The Mac Mini wooooould serve this purpose if it could have a stronger graphics capability. At least for me.

I think most people want expandability.
 
The Mac Mini wooooould serve this purpose if it could have a stronger graphics capability. At least for me.

I think most people want expandability.

Exactly. The mini doesn't cut it with max ram at 2 gigs, no way to upgrade video hardware, etc.

Apple's headless hardware comes in two flavors, go-kart and semi truck. There are many consumers who would be better served by something in the middle, both features and pricewise. They could even drop the mini and replace it with an inexpensive, midsize tower or desktop unit and it would be much better received than the mini.
 

Just hoping that Apple will read it and decide to make it.

As I was out sailing yesterday, I had an idea. Install the guts of a Mac Mini inside an Apple II enclosure and turn some heads when they see what a powerful computer my Apple II is.
 
As I was out sailing yesterday, I had an idea. Install the guts of a Mac Mini inside an Apple II enclosure and turn some heads when they see what a powerful computer my Apple II is.

Don't even mention that around me right now; I'm tempted enough with my Mac SE enclosure gathering dust as it is!

Seriously though, PhatBoy G has a point with his Apple TV/ Xbox 360 comparison. When you factor in the fact that you can get stream iTunes content to your Xbox using third-party software, the 360's DVD drive, and the available 360 HD-DVD drive, and I think the 360 comes out ahead as a media device. :apple:TV beats it in size, simplicity, and integrated wifi, but those just wouldn't be enough for me.
 
...you could make a pretty strong case for Apple releasing an entry-level, budget :apple:TV with no hard-drive whatsoever. As 802.11n becomes increasingly established among home users I think this could be a real, and very shrewd, addition to the :apple:TV product line-up.

Sod the hard drive, I say. I doubt that Apple are that concerned with the profit made on the :apple:TV units themselves. The :apple:TV is designed to extend the range of the iTunes ecosystem into the living room. An :apple:TV minus hard-drive could be introduced at a much lower cost while keeping the same form-factor and thus facilitating a user upgrade for all the :apple:TV hackers and modders out there.

The more I think about it the more I am convinced that this is the only way for :apple:TV to avoid going the same way as the iPod Hi-Fi.

My tuppence worth.

Derwood
The hard drive is only 40gb. They would save maybe $20 at the most per unit, but they'd have to charge $50-$100 less for there to be any value in it. And as someone already said, it's a small market to target if you're going after 802.11n owners that are looking for cheap add-ons. You haven't thought this one through very hard.

The Apple TV is a fantastic product, but it confuses a lot of people because it doesn't appear to obviously do anything in the typical consumer's mind. Just adding the iTunes Store to the Apple TV and letting you watch streams of what you're getting while it downloads would kickstart some momentum for it and give it a marketable purpose. From there, Apple would need to get creative.
 
i think eventually they'll just make a TV with apple tv functionality built in. Not by the 5th though. I mean it's just a logical progression. I think it will happen. Hell if they're thinking of making a car, that HAS to be in the works too.
 
i think eventually they'll just make a TV with apple tv functionality built in. Not by the 5th though. I mean it's just a logical progression. I think it will happen. Hell if they're thinking of making a car, that HAS to be in the works too.

Yeah, there is a certain amount of cost overhead in having all the electronics that the :apple:TV has, to talk to regular TVs, when you could just put them together. I mean, since they already make displays going up to 30", I could see that happening.

Then all those :apple:TV modders will be focusing on making remote desktop work so they can use WiFi to make that combo TV act as the monitor for their desktop computer :)
 
All the movies and such are just streamed through the gigabit network, I bypassed the "n" all together.

Only problem here is the Apple TV doesn't have a Gigabit ethernet port, it's just 10/100. Your streams would theoretically (I'm not going to get into real world differences) be much faster over an 802.11n connection than over Fast Ethernet. It's one of the same limitations the 802.11n Airport Extreme had, with WAN and LAN ports slower than the wireless, but they just updated that a couple weeks ago, so maybe we'll see the same mini update for the Apple TV.

http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html
 
I'm not buying an :apple:tv until they add HD movies to the iTunes Store. Let's be honest. The ones they provide now don't look too hot on an HDTV.
 
I hope the Australia iTunes store get any TV/Movie content....

x2 !!

I'm looking at getting an Apple TV, mainly to throw some hack's at it and muck around with it, have music in my family room, rip all my dvd's to hdd, etc.

it would be nice if Oz itunes had movies/tv! CMON!

I'm thinking we might get some AppleTV stuff from steve on the 5th. Perhaps he will announce Oz movies/tv, and Apple legit plugins/enhancements? mmm
 
I will raise you again on that! Please Apple Australia, make available to us some TV/Movie content!!! Along with higher quality... ;)

i will also add to that by saying that we really need some content in the Australian iTunes store. If apple added this then it would stop me from doing some "illegal" acts.
 
They need to announce,

Movies & TV Shows for Canada

720P HD Movies

Rental Service directly from AppleTV

Maybe Games & Widgets(like weather) that would be cool to see...
 
:apple:TV 2 wishlist:

  • up to 1080p support (via Core Duo and ATi x2400/x2600)
  • NAND memory for caching for improved wireless streaming, doing away with hard disk
  • Dolby Digital and DTS 7.1 (user payware upgrade if it has to be)
  • User updatable third party Quicktime codec plugins, including support for MPEG4 ASP (Divx, Xvid etc.)
 
Don't even mention that around me right now; I'm tempted enough with my Mac SE enclosure gathering dust as it is!

Seriously though, PhatBoy G has a point with his Apple TV/ Xbox 360 comparison. When you factor in the fact that you can get stream iTunes content to your Xbox using third-party software, the 360's DVD drive, and the available 360 HD-DVD drive, and I think the 360 comes out ahead as a media device. :apple:TV beats it in size, simplicity, and integrated wifi, but those just wouldn't be enough for me.

trying to use the 360 as a media streamer is a joke, you can't hear anything over the noise of the console which constantly sounds like a hovercraft taking of.
 
The hard drive is only 40gb. They would save maybe $20 at the most per unit, but they'd have to charge $50-$100 less for there to be any value in it. And as someone already said, it's a small market to target if you're going after 802.11n owners that are looking for cheap add-ons. You haven't thought this one through very hard.

They'd probably save even less, because they'd have to replace it with flash to store the OS (and probably to buffer streaming video). I figure if they did end up going this route, they'd end up using 8GB flash (MAYBE 4 GB). I don't know what the current wholesale cost for flash memory is, but I think they could end up not saving any money at all, or it could even end up costing more. All while reducing functionality. Don't see it happening.
 
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