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Series 6 charging - new charger?

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danielbahl

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The new  Watch series 6 offers 20% faster charging ? and that's for sure a welcome change ?

But I can't find any info if the Watch only charges faster with the included charger puck? Or if it also works with the older chargers?

There's no text on the charger puck the identify output power etc. to tell if it's the same tech. inside, or if there has been some updates inside the puck.

Anybody has any knowledge about this?

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We’re talking about a battery slightly more than 1Wh capacity.

I highly doubt there’s any difference outside the watch itself.

There‘s also no mention of any differentiation on the various watch charger cable product pages at Apple online store.

If you absolutely must have confirmation ping me again Tuesday or so when I should have my S6
 
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danielbahl

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McScooby said:
Same charger, different times based on models, check description.

www.apple.com

Apple Watch - Battery

Find out more about the battery life of Apple Watch. Learn about charge time, power reserve and other battery metrics too.
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I can see from the link: "Apple Watch Magnetic Charging Cable (Models A2255 and A2256), and Apple 5W USB Power Adapter (Model A1385)."

However, there's no modelno. printed on the chargers, so again, I don't know if older models of the chargers supports fast charging. Guess I have to test ?⌚⏱ (I was hoping somebody already had tested this, so I didn't have to..) ?

This is a comparison photo of my older fatter Series 4 charger and the new thinner Series 6 charger.

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danielbahl

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I decided to bundle my three older "fatter" chargers with my Series 4 sale on eBay :)

And I have just ordered two new original Apple Watch USB-C charges from Amazon (modelno. A2257). They are priced 34.10€ per cable on Amazon.de ? Total 68,2€ ($80,99) for two cables (1m and 0.3m)

Apple should be clearer if all chargers are compatible with Fast charging, or if it's only model A2255, A2256 and A2257 and how you can identify your chargers modelno. if you no longer have the box :)

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Apples had the USBC pucks for over a year, they’re not new.

appleinsider.com

Apple releases USB-C charging cable for Apple Watch | AppleInsider

As the new iPhone XR comes out, so does a single accessory — but it's not for the phone. Instead, it's for connecting your Watch to a USB-C port instead of the regular USB-A one.
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JMHO it seems you’re overthinking this.

Have you actually found a real charging difference or incompatibility between the pucks?
 
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danielbahl

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deeddawg said:
Apples had the USBC pucks for over a year, they’re not new.

appleinsider.com

Apple releases USB-C charging cable for Apple Watch | AppleInsider

As the new iPhone XR comes out, so does a single accessory — but it's not for the phone. Instead, it's for connecting your Watch to a USB-C port instead of the regular USB-A one.
appleinsider.com appleinsider.com

JMHO it seems you’re overthinking this.

Have you actually found a real charging difference or incompatibility between the pucks?
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I know, not new, but "newer" than the three I have already from my S0, S3 and S4. And new in the sense that it is of the "thin" generation, and not the former "thick" generation.

I'm testing now to bring some data to the table 👍🏻 My S6 is now at 8% and I've just plugged it into a fat old charger. I'll charge it to a 100% and time it. Tomorrow when it's 8% again, I'll test with one of the newer thinner chargers and report back :)
 
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danielbahl said:
I know, not new, but "newer" than the three I have already from my S0, S3 and S4. And new in the sense that it is of the "thin" generation, and not the former "thick" generation.

I'm testing now to bring some data to the table ?? My S6 is now at 8% and I've just plugged it into a fat old charger. I'll charge it to a 100% and time it. Tomorrow when it's 8% again, I'll test with one of the newer thinner chargers and report back :)
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Any results?
 
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danielbahl said:
I can see from the link: "Apple Watch Magnetic Charging Cable (Models A2255 and A2256), and Apple 5W USB Power Adapter (Model A1385)."

However, there's no modelno. printed on the chargers, so again, I don't know if older models of the chargers supports fast charging. Guess I have to test ?⌚⏱ (I was hoping somebody already had tested this, so I didn't have to..) ?

This is a comparison photo of my older fatter Series 4 charger and the new thinner Series 6 charger.

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Yeah, you're over analysing this. On the page I linked to both charging cables were used with a 5w charger (i.e. bog standard) that u get or used to get with iPhones. Therefore it doesn't matter that u can buy a USB C equipped charger, for the purpose of the tests and your original question, the standard leads and the standard plug are what's quoted with the extra 20%, which if i'm honest is only what 10mins or so quicker? USB C may charge it slightly faster, but for the sake of an extra 5 mins or so, is it worth all the hassle, this isn't the same as the iPhone batteries and charging times?
 
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Apple Watch Puck Size Reduction

All three pucks (Insignia, S3, S6) provided the same power. .07amps and 3 watts. When screen is on or doing the green time screensaver it drops to 1-1.5 watts. Takes 20+ seconds to slowly get up to 3 watts. Identical.
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The Apple Watch won't pull more than .07 amps and 3 watts. At least in my tests - plugged into chargers that can do 2.4a and 12w+. I tried 3 different charging cables.

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BigMcGuire said:
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Apple Watch Puck Size Reduction

All three pucks (Insignia, S3, S6) provided the same power. .07amps and 3 watts. When screen is on or doing the green time screensaver it drops to 1-1.5 watts. Takes 20+ seconds to slowly get up to 3 watts. Identical.
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The Apple Watch won't pull more than .07 amps and 3 watts. At least in my tests - plugged into chargers that can do 2.4a and 12w+.
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Is that 0.07A at 120VAC I presume?

... because 3W at 5VDC is more like 0.6A -- which would translate to lower amperage on the 120V side. Though I get 0.025A @ 120VAC on a basic calculation, so there must be a bit of inefficiency in the 120VAC to 5VDC adapter.
 
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deeddawg said:
Is that 0.07A at 120VAC I presume?

... because 3W at 5VDC is more like 0.6A -- which would translate to lower amperage on the 120V side. Though I get 0.025A @ 120VAC on a basic calculation, so there must be a bit of inefficiency in the 120VAC to 5VDC adapter.
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Yeah USA California - 120VAC.

I had it plugged into a 6 port Anker 60w adapter. It registered 0 watts and 0 amps when watch was off the puck. Pop it on the puck, it took 20-30 seconds to get up to .07a and 3 watts. (Slowly incremented from 1.3w to 3).
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Anyone tried 3rd party ones? Like from Aukey, Anker or Belkin?
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My Insignia one (from Best Buy) has same power results as my Apple ones.

Very interested to hear about the others!
 
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BigMcGuire said:
Yeah USA California - 120VAC.

I had it plugged into a 6 port Anker 60w adapter. It registered 0 watts and 0 amps when watch was off the puck. Pop it on the puck, it took 20-30 seconds to get up to .07a and 3 watts. (Slowly incremented from 1.3w to 3).
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My Insignia one (from Best Buy) has same power results as my Apple ones.

Very interested to hear about the others!
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Interesting might get one looking for a 3rd party that works good.
 
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BigMcGuire said:
Yeah USA California - 120VAC.

I had it plugged into a 6 port Anker 60w adapter. It registered 0 watts and 0 amps when watch was off the puck. Pop it on the puck, it took 20-30 seconds to get up to .07a and 3 watts. (Slowly incremented from 1.3w to 3).
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Good to know that it'll do fine with even a 5W source.


and for what it's worth, looking at my S5 and S6 charger pucks, there's no discernible visual difference.

Do you still have a way to measure wattage on a charging S5 model?
 
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deeddawg said:
Good to know that it'll do fine with even a 5W source.


and for what it's worth, looking at my S5 and S6 charger pucks, there's no discernible visual difference.

Do you still have a way to measure wattage on a charging S5 model?
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It got traded in already :(. I should have done it before I sent it back in. lol. Sorry.
 
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