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SERIOUSLY impressed with new camera (lots of pics, watch out 56k)

iGary

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cr2sh said:
I'm not insisting that we talk about it forever... just long enough that I feel confident in this $1500 purchase. So humor me please and in the future I'll handle questions regarding this decision. :)
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Wasn't really directing that at you personally. Just saying like Mac vs. PC, some people won't budge, even when logic dictates it. Basically I agree with you. You need to make up your own mind in the end. :D

Want a recommendation? I own a 20D, I love it, it takes professional-grade images that I get paid for. The 350D didn't cut it even as a spare body, and I also owned a 300D that I HATED.

I don't know much about the D70, but lots of people like it.

Canon's L glass and telephoto lenses spank Nikon's all over the place. Canon's wide angle choices suck. That's what the Sigma 12-24 is for. ;)

Go visit the wildlife and nature forums over at Fred Miranda and see what most of the best of the best nature and sports photography is being shot with: Canons with long L glass.
 
Chip NoVaMac

Chip NoVaMac

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cr2sh said:
The D70 kit comes with the 18-70, a $100 print card and a free Epson R200 for $1099. Impressions?

How long until the D70s comes out and is that going to effect the price of the D70 in a "hold off" kinda way? Sorry to turn this into a cr2sh buys a camera thread... but it falls in line with what you guys are discussing. I will be holding off until I get to see this 20D.
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The D70 deals are out there. There is the Nikon $100 rebate, the Epson $100 printer bundle rebate, and like my shop a mail-in $100 Gift Card offer.

The D70s is due later this month. More than likely you won't see the D70 drop much more. The changes to the D70s are not that great. And the $200 savings that most dealers are giving off the $1199 price, it will still sell.
 
jared_kipe

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I don't think there is anything wrong with the original digital rebel, with it you can do something special, like ...

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Chip NoVaMac

Chip NoVaMac

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jared_kipe said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with the original digital rebel, with it you can do something special, like ...
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To be honest iGary's issues with the 300D may have had more to do with the size and "non-conforming" layout of the controls. For us 10D owners, the 300D gave use camera envy. Especially after the hack was made available to bring many of the 10D features to the 300D.
 
mkrishnan

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Chip NoVaMac said:
To be honest iGary's issues with the 300D may have had more to do with the size and "non-conforming" layout of the controls. For us 10D owners, the 300D gave use camera envy. Especially after the hack was made available to bring many of the 10D features to the 300D.
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Yeah, investigating this hack is def on my to do list, although I'm not sure if I'll use it. The size and feel issues are very important. I personally actually like the size / dimensions of the canon. I have large hands, but my fingers are very slender...they've gotten a lot more slender over time somehow...lol, I have a pinky ring from my senior year of college, that I can almost fit on my ring finger now! :eek: But I find the 300D comfortable. I could totally see how someone else wouldn't. A camera that encourages you to shoot pictures is a good thing.
 
jared_kipe

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mkrishnan said:
Yeah, investigating this hack is def on my to do list, although I'm not sure if I'll use it. The size and feel issues are very important. I personally actually like the size / dimensions of the canon. I have large hands, but my fingers are very slender...they've gotten a lot more slender over time somehow...lol, I have a pinky ring from my senior year of college, that I can almost fit on my ring finger now! :eek: But I find the 300D comfortable. I could totally see how someone else wouldn't. A camera that encourages you to shoot pictures is a good thing.
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Ahh you have the old rebel, I use the hack. It rules, FEC, image quality at push of button, mirror lock up, and so much more.
 
mkrishnan

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jared_kipe said:
Ahh you have the old rebel, I use the hack. It rules, FEC, image quality at push of button, mirror lock up, and so much more.
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Yeah, I got a good enough deal on a very slightly and gently used one that I couldn't pass up. I will check it out, although right now I have plenty to munch on as it is. :)
 
jared_kipe

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mkrishnan said:
Yeah, I got a good enough deal on a very slightly and gently used one that I couldn't pass up. I will check it out, although right now I have plenty to munch on as it is. :)
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Aww just install it, doesn't change a thing, only adds to it. FEC is really useful, so is changing image size without going into the menu. h**p://satinfo.narod.ru/en/download.html
 
Chip NoVaMac

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mkrishnan said:
The size and feel issues are very important. I personally actually like the size / dimensions of the canon. I have large hands, but my fingers are very slender...they've gotten a lot more slender over time somehow...lol, I have a pinky ring from my senior year of college, that I can almost fit on my ring finger now! :eek: But I find the 300D comfortable. I could totally see how someone else wouldn't. A camera that encourages you to shoot pictures is a good thing.
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Size and "comfort" and "style" issues are something that I mention to all of my customers. You have to feel comfortable with a camera, if you are going to truly use it. It sounds trite, but it is something that I have seen in some customers.

For me, I am a bit ham fisted. The DRebel series just does not feel good to me. As much as I would be willing to pay the price for a 1DmkII, it just does not fit my style of shooting. Much too large and heavy.

Going back to the Canon/Nikon bashing. As of now I do feel that the the D70 is a very worthy camera. A decent value (as I have said I think the E-300 EVolt is a better value). But the D70 does fall short in two areas that the 300D/350D/20D answer - a vertical grip and a wired release. We can only hope that Nikon added the proper connections for a vertical grip - TBA. The other they did address with the upcoming D70s.
 
mkrishnan

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Chip NoVaMac said:
For me, I am a bit ham fisted. The DRebel series just does not feel good to me.
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I think this is exactly what it is, and what makes a lot of caucasian men, esp, not like the Rebel. I guess too though, that the whole button thing can be seen from many different angles. I am not a huge fan of Canon's layout, but coming from an S50, the 300D did not exactly have a steep learning curve! :rolleyes:
 
Chip NoVaMac

Chip NoVaMac

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mkrishnan said:
I guess too though, that the whole button thing can be seen from many different angles. I am not a huge fan of Canon's layout, but coming from an S50, the 300D did not exactly have a steep learning curve! :rolleyes:
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And that was the point that Canon had in doing the DRebel's the way they did. They wanted to attract the Powershot user to a new level of photography experience. All without learning the command wheel structure of the 20D and above.

This is where I give Nikon kudos. At this point their cameras have a unified user interface, both in film and digital - for the most part. They achieve some of that in the higher-end Coolpix series. But there are enough differences to cause the user a good amount of learning curve.
 
mkrishnan

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sethypoo said:
I recently purchased a Canon Digital Rebel XT too. Here are a few of my photos. I love my camera!
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Sorry, Seth, Angelfire doesn't let you direct link. :( If you want, you can either use flickr or photobucket, attach them, or just paste in the URLs and we can click on them (without the IMG part).
 
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