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Smeaton1724

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I'd go the route of - Sell your current machine now, pick up a low priced MBA M1 base and an external SSD for storage. Then resell the MBA M1 in 6 months. You'll lose less cash and maybe the Air will suit your needs in the short to medium term.

Reasoning, once the redesign hits its the double whammy of new design and Intel, really the initial upgrade is to get away from Intel chips, no heat and get some battery life, the MBA does that for a good price. Waiting for M2 and the redesign is also a good idea if you don't care on resale of the 16''.
 
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The Cockney Rebel

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Hello, LF
Doing well thanks and hope you are the same. I haven’t seen you posting much lately.

As to the 14”, I am considering it although the chances are less than 50% I will buy it on release.
Hello bud.

I've had a lot of issues with my mental health of late, thus I've not been very active on here.

Glad you're doing well, my friend.

Take care, and enjoy your M1 :).
 
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awsom82

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I acquired the late 2019 16-inch Macbook Pro when they were announced and got it in the nice combo of 32GB ram and 1TB hard drive. While I do enjoy the extra screen real estate, the larger Macbook Pro does get extremely hot in my lap most of the time (and that's when I'm only using Chrome, Spotify, and some apps) and the 16-inch is heavier when lugging it around.

So now I'm stuck in that three-way dead lock fight of: do I get the year-old but proven M1 Macbook Pro NOW, wait for the newer 2021 models (whenever they drop), or just stick with what I got.

What do you all think?
I think you should wait until WWDC21, the MBP 16 may be announced with the M2 chip.
 

Falhófnir

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No, there MAY BE a 14". There's been no official announcement or confirmation from Apple of a 14".
With so many corroborating rumours that’s like saying there isn’t going to be a new iPhone in September because Apple hasn’t announced it. We know it’s coming, we know roughly when. There’s even leaked schematics for heavens sake ?
 

jerryk

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I acquired the late 2019 16-inch Macbook Pro when they were announced and got it in the nice combo of 32GB ram and 1TB hard drive. While I do enjoy the extra screen real estate, the larger Macbook Pro does get extremely hot in my lap most of the time (and that's when I'm only using Chrome, Spotify, and some apps) and the 16-inch is heavier when lugging it around.

So now I'm stuck in that three-way dead lock fight of: do I get the year-old but proven M1 Macbook Pro NOW, wait for the newer 2021 models (whenever they drop), or just stick with what I got.

What do you all think?
I had the same machine (and same configuration) and sold it and got an M1 Air. While I miss the bigger screen, I do not miss the bulk, heat it generated, and the screaming fans! Even the lowly M1 Air does many tasks faster than the 16" MBP did.

I am definitely going to look hard at the 14" Mxx MBP when it comes out. I am not sure I can go back to the larger 15"/16" MBPs I used to upgrade every other year.
 

sublunar

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I'd go the route of - Sell your current machine now, pick up a low priced MBA M1 base and an external SSD for storage. Then resell the MBA M1 in 6 months. You'll lose less cash and maybe the Air will suit your needs in the short to medium term.

Reasoning, once the redesign hits its the double whammy of new design and Intel, really the initial upgrade is to get away from Intel chips, no heat and get some battery life, the MBA does that for a good price. Waiting for M2 and the redesign is also a good idea if you don't care on resale of the 16''.
Totally with you on this one. If the M1 offers something of value and you have a high value 16" you can clear some money by selling it on now.

That said, the entire M1 range hasn't been revealed yet but the numbers can only look good and could even impact on used value of Intel hardware if they are stratospherically good.
 

thekev

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I got my 16" MacBook Pro in November 2019 when they came out. I got the i7 model. My love of this computer has slowly turned to disappointment. The heat while doing light tasks, like having a few Safari tabs open, is annoying. If I use it on my lap, my legs feel sunburned after. Not good. The battery life is mediocre doing light tasks as well, maybe 4-5 hours. CoconutBattery says 84.7% design capacity with only 178 charge cycles. I have the space grey model & the space gray is fading in the areas where I rest my hands & palms. There's 2 brighter silver spots on both sides of the trackpad. And finally, when watching or listening to certain things, that annoying popping noise is back. When I got this computer I was very excited for it & thought I'd have it for 5 years like my last 15" MacBook Pro. Soooooo I'm now VERY interested in getting an Apple M1 or M2 MacBook & I'm starting to get impatient.

Some of those things could turn out the same with an M1 model. The battery for example has very little to do with the processor. You may have gotten unlucky there, assuming it's not a bug in CoconutBattery. Apple is all over the place with battery longevity.
 
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Maconplasma

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With so many corroborating rumours that’s like saying there isn’t going to be a new iPhone in September because Apple hasn’t announced it. We know it’s coming, we know roughly when. There’s even leaked schematics for heavens sake ?
Without an official statement from Apple its vaporware. If you wanna live your life on internet rumors then that's on you. I live on reality. Oh yeah and because a schematic was revealed that means Apple WILL release such rumored product. You're easy. SMH.
 

UltimateSyn

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Without an official statement from Apple its vaporware. If you wanna live your life on internet rumors then that's on you. I live on reality. Oh yeah and because a schematic was revealed that means Apple WILL release such rumored product. You're easy. SMH.
There are varying levels of confidence around each rumored product influenced by the number of times it’s been rumored, who has made claims about the product, what sort of information has been leaked, etc etc.

The 14” MBP, while not officially confirmed by Apple, is a done deal. Gurman and Kuo have both called it for this year and there are leaked schematics that reveal a 14” screen size. The month of release is still unclear but rest assured there will be a 14” MBP released this year.
 

Maconplasma

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There are varying levels of confidence around each rumored product influenced by the number of times it’s been rumored, who has made claims about the product, what sort of information has been leaked, etc etc.

The 14” MBP, while not officially confirmed by Apple, is a done deal. Gurman and Kuo have both called it for this year and there are leaked schematics that reveal a 14” screen size. The month of release is still unclear but rest assured there will be a 14” MBP released this year.
Knock yourself out. Believe whatever rumor you gotta believe. I live on facts. Yeah and rumors stated that these new iMacs that were recently released were supposed to have the rumored "M1X" processor. They didn't. They have an M1.
 

UltimateSyn

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Knock yourself out. Believe whatever rumor you gotta believe. I live on facts. Yeah and rumors stated that these new iMacs that were recently released were supposed to have the rumored "M1X" processor. They didn't. They have an M1.
Point me to where Gurman, Kuo and leaked schematics indicated that the smaller iMac would have an M1X? Oh right, they never said that. Conjecture from random YouTubers != documents leaked from Quanta of a product in EVT stage.

The irony is not lost on me that you, a user here on MacRumors.com, are telling me that you “live on facts.” Lol.
 

Maconplasma

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Point me to where Gurman, Kuo and leaked schematics indicated that the smaller iMac would have an M1X? Oh right, they never said that. Conjecture from random YouTubers != documents leaked from Quanta of a product in EVT stage.

The irony is not lost on me that you, a user here on MacRumors.com, are telling me that you “live on facts.” Lol.
And point me to where I stated that info came from any of the above. Of course I didn't. Have a good day.
 

UltimateSyn

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And point me to where I stated that info came from any of the above. Of course I didn't. Have a good day.
So nobody reputable claimed it and therefore it was always a rumor to be questioned and taken with a grain of salt.

My point is that not all rumors are made equally. The ones that originate and are backed up by sources with high-% track records are extremely likely to be made into reality. Especially when there are supporting documents and it’s not just hearsay.
 

Dhonk

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I acquired the late 2019 16-inch Macbook Pro when they were announced and got it in the nice combo of 32GB ram and 1TB hard drive. While I do enjoy the extra screen real estate, the larger Macbook Pro does get extremely hot in my lap most of the time (and that's when I'm only using Chrome, Spotify, and some apps) and the 16-inch is heavier when lugging it around.

So now I'm stuck in that three-way dead lock fight of: do I get the year-old but proven M1 Macbook Pro NOW, wait for the newer 2021 models (whenever they drop), or just stick with what I got.

What do you all think?
Main reason to wait is the elimination of the Touchbar. Main reason to buy now is portability, and deals are starting to popup
 

Gregintosh

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If you care about the resale value of the current pro you have, I would dump it ASAP and make the switch to an M1 Air or Pro. They will hold their value a lot better. Save the rest of the money for a future upgrade.

By the time the new pros come out and smoke even the existing M1's PLUS the new design, the old Intel based Macs will drop like a rock in resale value.

By then also M1 Air's and 13 inch Pro's will have more and more discounts and sales. With *very few* exceptions this will make it hard for people to justify paying a lot for a second hand unit when they can get a new one with the same or even better performance for the same money or even less money.

My recommendation: Unless you have a specific work flow or use case that you NEED your 16 inch for that you cannot do successfully with the M1 Air or Pro, sell yours ASAP, pick up an m1 unit with the 16GB ram/extra space, and enjoy that until the new pros come out.
 

DHagan4755

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Some of those things could turn out the same with an M1 model. The battery for example has very little to do with the processor. You may have gotten unlucky there, assuming it's not a bug in CoconutBattery. Apple is all over the place with battery longevity.
Oh yeah I know. It’s the combination of it all that just disappoints.
 
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Lemon Olive

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Yes, I know but not everyone needs the latest and greatest tech. That is my point. Too many people here spend their life chasing tech and for what? A few months of bragging rights?

If the OP doesn't need a bunch of ports or a fancy new screen for casual use, what is the point of spending more than he really needs?

The OP knows better than any of us what he really needs. I doubt what he needs is blindly following others who chase tech for the sake of having the latest.
No. The guy already has the machine he needs, and the replacement for it with Apple Silicon is not out yet and he's being a typical impatient
 

Jorbanead

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Without an official statement from Apple its vaporware.
We actually do have an official statement that all macs are going to transition to Apple Silicon within 2 years of WWDC 2020. We are almost at the 1 year mark. It's not a matter of "is apple going to do this" but a matter of "when is apple going to do this within the next year" so if you are in the market for a new high-end mac and your level of mac has not been updated yet with apple silicon, it would be foolish to downgrade to a lower tier of mac, unless you don't mind a smaller screen size/less ports/less ram.
 

bobcomer

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With so many corroborating rumours that’s like saying there isn’t going to be a new iPhone in September because Apple hasn’t announced it. We know it’s coming, we know roughly when. There’s even leaked schematics for heavens sake ?
Don't forget about the chip shortage, it'll effect Apple eventually,.
 

Maconplasma

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We actually do have an official statement that all macs are going to transition to Apple Silicon within 2 years of WWDC 2020. We are almost at the 1 year mark. It's not a matter of "is apple going to do this" but a matter of "when is apple going to do this within the next year" so if you are in the market for a new high-end mac and your level of mac has not been updated yet with apple silicon, it would be foolish to downgrade to a lower tier of mac, unless you don't mind a smaller screen size/less ports/less ram.
I think everybody here knows that forthcoming Macs will be built with Apple Silicon. That's old news. You may wanna go back and read where the conversation I had with another poster started. They were stating their version of "fact" that there will be a 14" MacBook Pro. I said there is no official statement so for now we MAY see a 14". That conversation had nothing to do with Apple silicon.
 

jdb8167

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We actually do have an official statement that all macs are going to transition to Apple Silicon within 2 years of WWDC 2020. We are almost at the 1 year mark. It's not a matter of "is apple going to do this" but a matter of "when is apple going to do this within the next year" so if you are in the market for a new high-end mac and your level of mac has not been updated yet with apple silicon, it would be foolish to downgrade to a lower tier of mac, unless you don't mind a smaller screen size/less ports/less ram.
I’m pretty sure that Apple started the 2 year clock with the first release of the M1 Macs. That gives them another 18 months.
 
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spiderman0616

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I've become more of a "get the device you need when you need it" type of guy lately. It's so pointless to always be looking around the bend for what's next. I think it's anxiety-based, because I used to have a lot of anxiety, and this desire to always be bleeding edge went away when the anxiety went away.

I will admit that I still like to always get the newest iPhone because I still find it fun to use all the new flagship hardware/software features, and it doesn't usually do anything crazy to my phone bill to upgrade every year, but I'm even thinking about keeping my 12 Pro Max for 2 or 3 years instead of the usual 1. And so far I have not replaced Apple Watches until the batteries finally give up, which seems to be every 3 or 4 years in my experience.

I got the M1 MacBook Air base model shortly after they came out. It is an amazing notebook, and easily the fastest computer I've ever owned in my life. The design is classic, slim, and sleek, and the computer will not suddenly stop being amazing just because new designs and processors came out. I got to use this thing for the last few months and get in at the ground floor of what I think is (again) an absolute disruption by Apple of the computer industry. Others have waited for some kind of major redesign, which may or may not even happen in 2021.

You can't make notebook computers much faster, slimmer, lighter, or cooler-running all at the same time than what Apple has done with its current notebook designs, somewhat dated as they are. Every new design is just a variation on a theme at this point. I can see using my not even a year old M1 Air for years to come before I am lured to my next model.
 

Jorbanead

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I've become more of a "get the device you need when you need it" type of guy lately. It's so pointless to always be looking around the bend for what's next.
In a normal year I would agree.

But we know what’s coming next. And we have a rough timeline on when to expect them. So if you feel the current M1 macs are not enough in some way, and you don’t absolutely need a new Mac right now, I feel like it would be foolish not to wait. Especially since OP specially has a 16” MBP and that model has not been updated yet. Intel —> Apple Silicon is a huge deal.

A lot of the intel offerings are getting pretty dated and are not worth their expensive apple tax. So either get an M1 machine now, or if that doesn’t float your boat, wait for the other machines to get updated.

(obviously if you need Intel then none of this applies)
 
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