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iPhone 6(S)/Plus Should I Get Another New Battery?
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Pretty much the same, except it's not an Apple branded battery.
I believe it's this one:
I never let a battery go down to 20%, except by rare accident. Are you saying I shouldn't charge it over 95%? That's pretty tough since it charges overnight while I'm sleeping….
Yes, if you want to keep using your phone for another 1-2 years, it's worth it. Even if the new battery improves your battery life by 1 or 2 extra hours per day, it will make you happier with the phone, no? $30 is also the approximate price that we USA customers have to pay for the battery replacement. It was "FREE" last year when Apple provided the free battery replacements to address the prior complaints/lawsuits. But that "free period" is over, I think it expired around late 2018.
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You are also supposed to "completely discharge it" (deplete it down to ZERO%) (and then immediately charge it to full) once every couple of months…. helps preserve battery life long term.
I got one of the Apple replacement batteries when they had the program last year. It performed well for about ten months or less. I'm hoping this one does better.
Batteries are very very unpredictable. I don't know what the stats are for getting lucky on batteries, but just based on my personal tortured history with batteries, I'd say batteries are probably the most likely point of "failure" for any device.
As for what light usage is, you may or may not be as light of a user as you think. There are all sorts of ways to add stress to your battery without you playing games until it runs out of juice. If you're always connected to a weak WiFi signal or a weak cellular tower or have Bluetooth devices barely in range, your iPhone is struggling silently and using up extra power.
Anyway, I see you got a new battery. I think that was the right move.
I also find Apple's battery app to be useless. I really have no idea what that thing is doing. It never changes. It's almost as if it's really just a screen of text that's pretending to do something.
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I don't think that's a current recommendation. I do remember that full cycling trick working wonders for my early days Nokia cell phones, but it's not useful anymore. Full discharge of li-ion batteries is stressful to the battery and they even have built in featuers to prevent you from fully draining them because fully drained li-ion batteries may need special equipment to revive. Battery University lists in their guidelines for prolonging battery health that you should avoid complete discharge cycles of the battery.
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Battery stats can be weird. I used coconut battery a couple of days ago and saw my 5 month old battery (I got a new one for my 7 plus in November taking advantage of the Apple deal) 2095 mAh still over design capacity. Then I went on break and played the new Angry Birds AR (you see a 3D structure to knock down) - not very optimized as it heated my phone up quite a bit - I wondered how hot it was plugged it in again and to my shock the battery was not only up tp 34 deg but the capacity had diminished after 5 minutes of play (needless to say the app got junked though apparently a new version is out).
Not a big deal at all but it shows how tricky battery measurement is.
Not a big deal at all but it shows how tricky battery measurement is.
Does anyone know if you have AppleCare+ warranty, will Apple replace your covered iPhone battery free of charge?
I don't know yet. I haven't used it. I've been cooking dal and watching TV all afternoon.
I won't use the phone again until this evening when I'll play music via a Bluetooth speaker. It's kind of odd because that kind of activity never drains the phone that much; even though it's getting the music via WiFi and playing via Bluetooth. You'd think that continuous use of both radios would drain the battery. But, not so much.
I consider myself a light user because most of the day the phone is idle with the screen dark. As I've mentioned, I do all my reading, web surfing, email and that sort of stuff with my iPad. But, yeah, the phone is always in touch via BlueTooth with my Apple Watch. WiFi at home and at the venues I frequent is always strong. Cell service in this area is excellent; even out in the boonies.
I assume that the AppleCare policies for the phones are the same as for Macs. If your Mac falls under 80% battery health, it triggers a service battery warning and upon confirmation that your battery health is indeed degraded, Apple will replace your battery under AppleCare. I just had this done for a 2016 MBP with 70% battery health right before selling it.
Speaking practically, if you have AC+ then for iPhones Apple is lenient and just changes the battery for free. Worse case scenario, they will charge you for it. But chances are they will oblige regardless of battery health. And it will usually be for free or at most the same nominal charge as for OOW devices.
The good news for me is that the new battery is performing very well. I went on a longish bicycle ride yesterday and tracked the ride with the Workout app on my Apple Watch. That app hands Location Services duties off to a paired phone, so that means my phone was using the GPS, BlueTooth and cellular radios quite a bit. After an hour of cycling the battery was only down to 99%. At the end of the ride (two hours) and after taking a bunch of photos, it was still at 89%
I only used the phone sporadically until the evening when I streamed music via WiFi played over a BlueTooth speaker. When I finally hit the sack the battery was at 49%. Of course, the replacement battery I got from Apple last year seemed great at first. But performance degraded significantly after only ten months.
The odd thing is that after training myself not to use the phone much over the last six months, I now have to get used to being able to use it whenever I please. It's nice to be taking lots of photos again.
From yesterday's bicycle ride. Wat Khok Faek (วัดโคกแฝก) Nakhonratchasima, Thailand.
I only used the phone sporadically until the evening when I streamed music via WiFi played over a BlueTooth speaker. When I finally hit the sack the battery was at 49%. Of course, the replacement battery I got from Apple last year seemed great at first. But performance degraded significantly after only ten months.
The odd thing is that after training myself not to use the phone much over the last six months, I now have to get used to being able to use it whenever I please. It's nice to be taking lots of photos again.
From yesterday's bicycle ride. Wat Khok Faek (วัดโคกแฝก) Nakhonratchasima, Thailand.
Is your battery life comparable to how it was on iOS 10/9? What's your SOT from 100% to 50%?
Which phone is this? And what was your battery health before the swap?
If you read the OP most of your questions will be answered.
It’s a 6s. The original battery crapped out after 18 months so I jumped at the chance of the inexpensive Apple replacement. The replacement crapped out after 10 months.
I have no memory of what iOS version I was using during he life of each of the prior two batteries. I have not kept track of SOT.
The iOS battery app claimed battery health of 90% and said that the battery was capable of peak performance. Coconut Battery said 78%.
It’s a 6s. The original battery crapped out after 18 months so I jumped at the chance of the inexpensive Apple replacement. The replacement crapped out after 10 months.
I have no memory of what iOS version I was using during he life of each of the prior two batteries. I have not kept track of SOT.
The iOS battery app claimed battery health of 90% and said that the battery was capable of peak performance. Coconut Battery said 78%.
Which iOS version are you on? A pic of your battery section?
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Is your battery life now the same as when you originally got the phone in 2015?
I don't recall.
But, this is a very difficult question. When I first got the phone I didn't use it to track workouts and I didn't have an Apple Watch and I didn't have a BlueTooth speaker. So, all those things add to battery consumption. There's no way to rationally compare.
Here's my impression: When I first got the phone I was satisfied with battery life. I only charged it overnight; not during the day. After about 18 months the battery life did a rapid decline to the point where I was charging several times a day. Then I got the Apple replacement battery. That seemed fine for about ten months. But then I experienced rapid decline again to the point where I was routinely using Low Power Mode and carrying a power bank with me if I was planning to be away from a charger for more than a few hours.
With the new battery I'm back to only charging over night, but who knows how long that will last.
On the other hand, my wife has an iPhone X. She is a very heavy user. She's an attorney who is constantly on the telephone, sending messages, doing email etc. In spite of that heavy use, she still only has to charge her 18 month old phone at night; never during the day,.
Edit: so you did get a new battery. Enjoy the 6S, it’s an awesome phone.
In the end, it depends whether you’re willing to spend money on a new iPhone or not. If the answer is yes, then skip the battery and wait for the 2019 iPhone. If the answer is no, as a battery is much cheaper than a new iPhone, then I would get a new battery. I got my 6S battery replaced twice, luckily for free since my phone was part of the battery replacement program. The 6S battery is tiny, thus even normal use can wear it down quicker than other larger batteries. It’s too bad since the A9 is still a great performing chip today, but the battery life is just the 6S’ Achilles heel.
Edit: so you did get a new battery. Enjoy the 6S, it’s an awesome phone.
I like it very much. Just the right size. Decent display. Fast enough for what I do. But, yeah, the battery….
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An OEM iPhone 7 battery won't work in an iPhone 6s. If if works, you probably have a fake iPhone 7 battery.
My mom's iPhone 7 does 4-5 hrs SOT, maybe more like 4 hrs.
My aunt's SE does 5-6 hours SOT.
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This is 100% a fake battery.
Get an original 6s battery, should last 2x this.
My aunt's SE does 5-6 hours SOT.
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This is 100% a fake battery.
Get an original 6s battery, should last 2x this.