Oh yeah, I do have an iLap. I think I just might want to have kids someday, haha.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Sick and tired of gaming issues on the Mac /cry
- Thread starter palebluedot
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Oh yeah, I do have an iLap. I think I just might want to have kids someday, haha.
Ah--see, I want a barren, sterile existence that ends when I die
1. The games ARE on my Mac. (This depends on your choice of games. I like sci-fi and FPS, and don't have time to finish the ones out now for OS X, before the next wave comes! And game availability for Mac is only increasing, so I doubt I'll ever catch up. Just give me time for UT3, Gears, StarCraft II, Rage, and the final 2 Penumbra games. Once I finish with the games I have--like Quake Wars--which shows no sign of happening.)
2. I want to have one computer, not two--one place for all my bookmarks and emails and IMs, one place for both work and fun, and no extra machine to keep powering up and down. And when it comes to laptops, having one computer instead of two is not just a matter of clutter and desk space, it's a necessity.
3. Booting Windows to game also sucks.
That's why
There IS no perfect game system. Not Mac, not Windows, not a console. Each person has to choose what they're willing to compromise. Some choose Windows. It's the lesser evil and the best choice for some gamers. But not for all gamers. Anyone who feels the need to try to persuade OTHER people to not play games on Mac is seeing things very narrowly. They're seeing their OWN choices as right for everyone.
That's the same mistake as if I were to say nobody should game on Windows. But I wouldn't say that.
How good is the GTS 8800 for gaming? I can only find greatly mixed reports. It's a large possibility that a 3Ghz 8800 iMac will be our family's next comp (we have a 533Mhz G4 with <1 gb o' ram ). What's the most taxing game I could play well on it? Do you have an opinion on if it would run, say, Starcraft 2 or Diablo 3?
). What's the most taxing game I could play well on it? Do you have an opinion on if it would run, say, Starcraft 2 or Diablo 3?
Yes and yes--and yes to any game out today, I'd have to guess. Note that the latest games, like UT3 (coming soon to Mac) have some very quality options available--you wouldn't be able to use max settings on all games (few if any PCs can, yet). But with the right settings that should be great for any current game.
More power would be important for things like higher-res external displays, FSAA, and of course FUTURE games that don't yet exist.
But that's the top iMac config, and great for games at the moment. Hard-core spec-braggers would want more power by far. But if you just want to play games, like SC2 and D3, you'll be set.
More power would be important for things like higher-res external displays, FSAA, and of course FUTURE games that don't yet exist.
But that's the top iMac config, and great for games at the moment. Hard-core spec-braggers would want more power by far. But if you just want to play games, like SC2 and D3, you'll be set.
For gamers, go with the Mac Pro, it costs pretty much the same as the top spec iMac 24". And go with Apple's Cinema Display or go find some cheaper displays. If you're really that sick of mac games, go bootcamp and xp. xp is compatible with most games, except some of the new microsoft ones, AOE, Halo, etc. But that's because they want you to switch to Vista.
The disc thing is garbage but...
A minute to two to reboot to play a game? QQ more pleaese.
Because that's nothing. Pleeease. That extra minute might prevent "impulse" gaming sessions like my DS frequently causes me to have in the middle of doing something more important (like schoolwork).
A minute to two to reboot to play a game? QQ more pleaese.
Because that's nothing. Pleeease. That extra minute might prevent "impulse" gaming sessions like my DS frequently causes me to have in the middle of doing something more important (like schoolwork).
The disc thing is garbage but...
A minute to two to reboot to play a game? QQ more pleaese.
Because that's nothing. Pleeease. That extra minute might prevent "impulse" gaming sessions like my DS frequently causes me to have in the middle of doing something more important (like schoolwork).
True, sometimes it's a curse how easily I can pop into Quake Wars
But the rebooting can be more of a hassle than you may think:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/5702250/
The disc thing is garbage but...
A minute to two to reboot to play a game? QQ more pleaese.
Because that's nothing. Pleeease. That extra minute might prevent "impulse" gaming sessions like my DS frequently causes me to have in the middle of doing something more important (like schoolwork).
Some people ONLY play games by impulse. Like me. I ran a PC for a while with Linux as my main OS and Windows for games. Result: I never played games. It wasn't until I got a slick Wine setup on my Linux partition that I started playing games again, which was around the time I wiped out Windows and converted the partition to more Linux storage.
True, sometimes it's a curse how easily I can pop into Quake Wars
But the rebooting can be more of a hassle than you may think:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/5702250/
Wish I could say the same
I'm still getting really bad lag at weird times. Like I had just been playing, it seemed so so/fine for 20 mint hen after 20 min on this one map the lag was so bad it would take 3 sec to turn around when I moved my mouse.
I know this isnt the problem but I was wondering if my Mouse could be adding more crap ontop of an already craptastic pile. Im using the top o' the line gaming mouse (the Logitech G9) which is not Mac compatible per se. It stores all your settings on the mouse's RAM though, and Im using Steermouse (3rd party) to get button functionality. I wonder if this is adding to the lag? I know its not causing it cause the lag is visibly screen lag.
Did it stay lagged, or just lag for a few seconds? I do get it occasionally like that--and I think it's when megatextures load. Seems like it usually happens when I step outdoors--although plenty of times I step outdoors with no lag, so maybe that means sometimes the needed megatextures have already loaded. Just a theory. A network issue is another theory--do you have any way to game for a while at a different location/network and see if anything is different?
Re the G9 mouse: I doubt that's hurting anything--I've read a few comments from other people using it on Mac--but I suppose anything's possible, especially with some third-party driver. I'd be interested to hear how you like it: that's the very mouse I want to get; only I'd use ControllerMate (which I already own and like) instead of SteerMouse.
FWIW here are my Logitech G9 questions:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/501417/
Re the G9 mouse: I doubt that's hurting anything--I've read a few comments from other people using it on Mac--but I suppose anything's possible, especially with some third-party driver. I'd be interested to hear how you like it: that's the very mouse I want to get; only I'd use ControllerMate (which I already own and like) instead of SteerMouse.
FWIW here are my Logitech G9 questions:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/501417/
Ah--see, I want a barren, sterile existence that ends when I die
1. The games ARE on my Mac. (This depends on your choice of games. I like sci-fi and FPS, and don't have time to finish the ones out now for OS X, before the next wave comes! And game availability for Mac is only increasing, so I doubt I'll ever catch up. Just give me time for UT3, Gears, StarCraft II, Rage, and the final 2 Penumbra games. Once I finish with the games I have--like Quake Wars--which shows no sign of happening.)
2. I want to have one computer, not two--one place for all my bookmarks and emails and IMs, one place for both work and fun, and no extra machine to keep powering up and down. And when it comes to laptops, having one computer instead of two is not just a matter of clutter and desk space, it's a necessity.
3. Booting Windows to game also sucks.
That's why
There IS no perfect game system. Not Mac, not Windows, not a console. Each person has to choose what they're willing to compromise. Some choose Windows. It's the lesser evil and the best choice for some gamers. But not for all gamers. Anyone who feels the need to try to persuade OTHER people to not play games on Mac is seeing things very narrowly. They're seeing their OWN choices as right for everyone.
That's the same mistake as if I were to say nobody should game on Windows. But I wouldn't say that.
Did you say anything there? It didn't sound like it. No one said anybody's choice is right for everybody except you.
It's a free world. Just because I recommend gaming on a pc instead of a Mac, because we all know Mac gaming sucks, doesn't mean you have to.
Yes I did. You asked a question--why fight to game in OS X--and I answered it
I think we're on the same page though, that there are good reasons for either choice.
No one said anybody's choice is right for everybody except you.
No--you missed a lot of what I said, if you think I said that. I'm responding to people who fail to say "for me" or "I" or "for some" and make blanket statements like "Go where the games are. Use your Mac for everything else"--and then don't understand why someone would choose differently. So I explained why.
Yes I did. You asked a question--why fight to game in OS X--and I answered it
I think we're on the same page though, that there are good reasons for either choice.
Yeah we're on the same page as far as Mac gaming sucks, and we both like OS/X. However, in general, I wouldn't recommend a Mac to a gamer unless they like getting games a year later at full price with less support and less online players and paying much more for much less gaming performance.
Well if you're responding to other people then you shouldn't quote my post.
I was responding to you (But also to others.)
I recommend Mac and Windows BOTH as gaming options, and I tell people the problems/benefits of each. You could say either platform "sucks" for games (and I've explained why Boot Camp does) or you could look only at the benefits and say either one is great--but either way, nobody should be recommending one without acknowledging the other.
Windows gamers need not be bothered by my posts in support of OS X gaming. Both options will coexist just fine. But I'll continue to point out the often-overlooked benefits of gaming in OS X. (And I'll continue to post about why NOT to game in OS X too--as I've done many times. But that side of the question gets discussed plenty already.)
(But also to others.)I recommend Mac and Windows BOTH as gaming options, and I tell people the problems/benefits of each. You could say either platform "sucks" for games (and I've explained why Boot Camp does) or you could look only at the benefits and say either one is great--but either way, nobody should be recommending one without acknowledging the other.
Windows gamers need not be bothered by my posts in support of OS X gaming. Both options will coexist just fine. But I'll continue to point out the often-overlooked benefits of gaming in OS X. (And I'll continue to post about why NOT to game in OS X too--as I've done many times. But that side of the question gets discussed plenty already.)
The only problems I have encounterd with gaming on my Mac has been Universal Binaries. Most of my games ran fine on my G4, and then I upgraded to a MBP. They stopped working until they all got UB updates. Now everything is just fine. (I am not that picky when it comes to graphics and shinny stuff).
I play Doom 3, Jedi Academy, Halo, Warcraft 3, Freespace 2, Knights of the old Republic, and Fable.
I play Doom 3, Jedi Academy, Halo, Warcraft 3, Freespace 2, Knights of the old Republic, and Fable.
I bought rollercoaster tycoon 3 for mac and simcity 4 deluxe thinking it would be great for my new imac but it ran like slow dog ****.... Aspyr really sucks at porting games there age of empires 2 i bought was a joke too. So far the best performance game for my imac is command and conquer 3 using the cider port... runs perfectly!
Yeah the problem with that is you would need a good dose of kool-aid to believe it. In no way is Mac gaming on the same foothold as pcgaming. Mac gaming means making many compromises while Windows gaming means making almost none.
I don't think the benefits to mac gaming are overlooked at all. There really aren't any besides the fact you get to stay in Os/X and use just your Mac.
One Mac computer that will never lag or has crappy graphics is the Mac Pro, if you really want a thriller gaming experience, try spending 27K on a fully loaded Mac Pro, then come complaining to me about sucky graphics or such. Heck, my macbook can run all the games ppl here have mentioned no problem. The fan does kick in but other than that, its perfectly fine. The iMac is capable of running even Crysis, albiet its the higher end model, the 3.06 ghz or the one lower than that. Lag is not due to the computer, but the network. Anyway, bootcamp isnt that slow. Just be patient
This, IMHO should have been your first clue NOT to get a Mac. Can they game? Yes! As easily as a Windows machine? Not currently.
Other than the time it takes to reboot into Vista64 Enterprise that I run currently there's nothing my Mac Pro with two 3870's and 3.2 Xeons cannot run on the Windows side and run well at 1920x1200
Nothing more difficult about it other than just installing Vista which I would have to do on a gaming rig as I used to anyway
$ 27,000 to play games? What, are you nuts? The Mac Pro is great but there's a lot of stuff that driver the price up but is not needed for gaming. This is a really bad excuse.