Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Sick Of The High Prices...
- Thread starter waltchan
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
..............this thread makes me sad 
1) Have you ever felt a pc and apple laptop side by side and see which is made more solid?
2) Have you considered how much a comparable pc laptop would cost given the amount of software a Mac laptop comes with?
3) Aesthetics and design, need I say more.
4) Econmics, ya dig?
1) Have you ever felt a pc and apple laptop side by side and see which is made more solid?
2) Have you considered how much a comparable pc laptop would cost given the amount of software a Mac laptop comes with?
3) Aesthetics and design, need I say more.
4) Econmics, ya dig?
None of this "comparison pricing" makes any difference to me. I don't want a PC, I want a system that will run OS X legally and properly. For that, I need Apple.
I can't afford top-of-the-line Apple gear so I buy the lower down stuff. Suits me just fine.
Those that NEED a MacBook Pro have either the money to buy it or the ability to write it off as a business purchase. Others who have the MacBook Pro mightn't NEED it but they can afford it - always get the best computer you can afford.
This stock 12" iBook was the best I could afford at the time. It still is, considering I have diddly squat to my name right now. If I had more money I'd buy the absolute best I could.
I can't afford top-of-the-line Apple gear so I buy the lower down stuff. Suits me just fine.
Those that NEED a MacBook Pro have either the money to buy it or the ability to write it off as a business purchase. Others who have the MacBook Pro mightn't NEED it but they can afford it - always get the best computer you can afford.
This stock 12" iBook was the best I could afford at the time. It still is, considering I have diddly squat to my name right now. If I had more money I'd buy the absolute best I could.
waltchan said:I'm absolutely sick of the high prices Apple charges for their computers. It puts too much pressure on my buying needs, and I ended up not being able to afford it.
Post is of absolutely NO value. It is based on ignorance and misinformation, is childish and reeks of an entitlement minded attitude, all evidenced by this latter, ridiculous attempt to save face:
waltchan said:
BB
generik said:
generik said:
I'm not sure that you can make that kind of blanket statement and just assume you're right. Maybe in your case, when you were enrolled, you didn't need a laptop. However, for other people, that may not be the case. Some colleges and universities today require incoming students to have a laptop. In my case, having a laptop has been extremely helpful, if not necessary. You can't simply say since it wasn't necessary for you, it won't be necessary for other people.
As far as your bold statement regarding performance of students who take notes on laptops goes, that's just wrong too. Personally, I take notes on my laptop, and I've been on the dean's list for the past three semesters at one of the best engineering universities in the country. I know plenty of people here that use their laptops in class and do well too. You can't take your own experience and assume that it applies to everyone.
If the original poster was refering to a laptop in college, I'd suggest waiting for the Intel iBook and the back-to-school sale.
when i was accepted to university, i chose a laptop because i live over 6 hours away from the campus. it's just easier to go home with, i can take my work with me. my laptop is the most powerful computer i have ever owned, and i am more than happy with it. i do not "pose" with it in class; it stays in my hall room 99% of the time, apart from when i have group meetings where most of the people bring's their laptops for collaboration, or a presentation. many students choose portables for these very same reasons. maybe it is different in the states, but i have NEVER seen anyone take notes with their computer in class. a few of my friends have desktops, but most have laptops.
the reason students choose laptops for college is that they are simply more practical, for the student way. not to "show off". if a more powerful computer is needed....well, thats why universities invest hundreds of thousands in computer labs.
S
the reason students choose laptops for college is that they are simply more practical, for the student way. not to "show off". if a more powerful computer is needed....well, thats why universities invest hundreds of thousands in computer labs
. S
waltchan said:
Oh, boo hoo. Here I am trying to scrape together the down payment for my first house and work out how I'm going to pay for some sort of car-like transportation as well, and you're whining about a COMPUTER putting pressure on your buying needs. A MacBookPro isn't even on the HORIZON for me, as I've (sadly) been forced to acknowledge.
The clear answer, waltchan, is for you to get yourself a higher-paying job.
waltchan said:I'm absolutely sick of the high prices Apple charges for their computers. It puts too much pressure on my buying needs, and I ended up not being able to afford it.
not trying to be a smart butt by anymeans, the reason why apple charges these prices is because.a) they can.. b)MacUsers pay these prices and say the MacBook Pro your Raving about in the post, they could charge an extra 200$ on both models and i bet you Half of Mac Rumors and everyone else in the world wanting one would still pay it. Its just like BMW's they could charge less but then why would they when everyone will pay the sticker price no matter what. Plus your getting quality computer, im a Network Admin for a frim in nashville and i work on pc's all day. I'll pay the extra to know my puters are all macs. just my .02
come on
Man- Everyone wants to burn this cat because they brought up a good point. One that all my PC lovin friends catch me on quit often. The hardware prices are a little steep. Yes, they are. Even when talking Desktop units. I can piece together one hell of a machine for a whole lot less. This is just a fact of life.
But, I like the Mac OS this is why I have put up with the price, and will continue to put up with the price, at least until it is possible to run the Mac OS on any hardware.
If you are seriously frustrated with the $$$ and can't substantiate throwing down the cash, then you really need to look into other options.
Forget Windoz!
But you could build something, preferably a desktop (more bang for your buck) and then run a Linux OS. Or even purchase a refurb laptop, say from Dell, and also throw Linux on it.
Man- Everyone wants to burn this cat because they brought up a good point. One that all my PC lovin friends catch me on quit often. The hardware prices are a little steep. Yes, they are. Even when talking Desktop units. I can piece together one hell of a machine for a whole lot less. This is just a fact of life.
But, I like the Mac OS this is why I have put up with the price, and will continue to put up with the price, at least until it is possible to run the Mac OS on any hardware.
If you are seriously frustrated with the $$$ and can't substantiate throwing down the cash, then you really need to look into other options.
Forget Windoz!
But you could build something, preferably a desktop (more bang for your buck) and then run a Linux OS. Or even purchase a refurb laptop, say from Dell, and also throw Linux on it.
Mac users (myself included) will pay a big more because you pay for quality, and the operating system is high quality, the built-in apps are high quality, and the large choice of expansion (firewire 400/800, USB, DVI outputs, digital audio in/out) make up for the cost easily.
waltchan said:I'm absolutely sick of the high prices Apple charges for their computers. It puts too much pressure on my buying needs, and I ended up not being able to afford it.
Me no like money. I give apple extra $1000 tip for being good computer builder. I like give money. Apple smooth case make nipples hard. I give extra for hard nipples.
waltchan said:
That $600 laptop has 256MB a 40GB hard drive, integrated graphics and a CD-RW/DVD-ROM. Most likely not a widescreen and a much poorer quality LCD at that. Oh wait, battery life will stink and it will be a Celeron M.
That sounds like a pro laptop to me.
You are completely unrealistic in what you want and what price you want to pay. You want pro-level hardware, you pay for it. You want a "craptop" go to Best Buy on Sunday and get one of their "El Cheapo" models that they will no doubt hae this week.
I was a Porsche and I want to pay a Hyundai price for it. They should be ashamed of themselves for gouging.
Get real.
If I were heading to college I would strongly consider this an option:generik said:
http://www.alphasmart.com/danastore/neo_features.html
and of course use the computer lab or have an iMac in the dorm room.
Good one.dejo said:I'm absolutely sick of the high prices Dell charges for their computers. It puts too much pressure on my buying needs, and I ended up not being able to afford it. A $1,999.99 plus 8.25% sales tax on an XPS M170 only comes with a 80 GB hard drive and 1 GB memory RAM. I need 120 GB hard drive, 2 GB memory RAM, and 2.26 GHZ processor speed, so that rings up to $2,759 for everything. This is absolutely pathetic and a disgrace in the computer market, and Dell should be ashamed of themselves.
Touché.
When you get down to it, comparatively priced PCs and Macs are not all that different in cost.
You can however get a stripped down PC for less.
But you get what you pay for. I know folks who try to save but end up getting a substandard solution that does not work well for them.
MacBook Pro is a professional laptop. Can't afford it? That's nobody's problem but yours, they do an iBook, or you can wait for the MacBook. A MacBook Pro at $1800 is not much (if at all) more expensive than an equivelant Dell or Sony laptop when you consider that it's the Core Duo (not P-M which is cheaper), it's DDR2 (good quality stuff too), a large drive, DVD±RW, camera and the remote. Grow up and buy what you can afford (iBook perhaps?). We get the best we can, for some of us that is lower than for others.
Deepdale said:
Rule 3: A computer is a tool. Use the correct one.
When I was looking at Mac Laptops, I was torn between the 12" PowerBook and 12" iBook (liked the portability). The price difference was a few hundred dollars for the base models. When all was said and done, the chip speed was too similar, I wasn't going to burn DVDs (in hindsight it would have been nice for backup, but an external HD works just fine) and I didn't need monitor spanning. All in all the PowerBook was nicer but I wouldn't use the features that I was paying extra money for. I suspect that most of these college students would be very well served with a refurb. G4 iBook.
And if you have hard nipples, you know, that's all you *really* need.Arcus said:Sorry thats all I got.
For the record, I do agree that Apple's hardware prices are a bit steep. There's no question. Whether it's worth the price is another question (and I along with many other people here believe it is). It's true that once you do some comparison shopping and get similarly-specced hardware and add in the costs of the software you get, industrial design, etc. that you're getting a decent deal.
In the end it's all about priorities. I kinda lied earlier when I said an MBP wasn't on the horizon for me. In truth my job pays me well enough that I could, if I really wanted to, buy a MacBook Pro today, and have it paid for by next month. But again, I choose not to, because an MBP is a luxury computing device for me (my 12" Powerbook -- which ALSO cost me a pretty penny, and at THAT time I was a starving student -- is still holding up rather well), and I have higher priorities, like the afore-mentioned house. So I could... but I won't.
Sorry if my previous response was snarky, but you simply don't come onto a forum ranting about a Mac "putting pressure" on "buying needs" without getting a reality check. The first couple of years that I had a good income I spent almost everything on all manner of tech toys, like laptops, projectors, PDA's, handheld tablets, portable video units... my impulse control was non-existent. I've since learned to smarten up about how I spend (and save) my money.
So I wish the OP well in saving for his Mac, and I trust that the harder he has to work to save it, the more he will appreciate it in the end.
In the end it's all about priorities. I kinda lied earlier when I said an MBP wasn't on the horizon for me. In truth my job pays me well enough that I could, if I really wanted to, buy a MacBook Pro today, and have it paid for by next month. But again, I choose not to, because an MBP is a luxury computing device for me (my 12" Powerbook -- which ALSO cost me a pretty penny, and at THAT time I was a starving student -- is still holding up rather well), and I have higher priorities, like the afore-mentioned house. So I could... but I won't.
Sorry if my previous response was snarky, but you simply don't come onto a forum ranting about a Mac "putting pressure" on "buying needs" without getting a reality check. The first couple of years that I had a good income I spent almost everything on all manner of tech toys, like laptops, projectors, PDA's, handheld tablets, portable video units... my impulse control was non-existent. I've since learned to smarten up about how I spend (and save) my money.
So I wish the OP well in saving for his Mac, and I trust that the harder he has to work to save it, the more he will appreciate it in the end.
