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I think I should petition Dodge to put a Hemi in my truck. All the new trucks have it, so mine should too. I shouldn't have to go out and buy a new truck just to have a Hemi....
Happens every upgrade cycle.
Well said
Why exactly do you say the iPhone 4 is capable of running it? I don't believe it is.
Siri appeals to many people's cheezy side. It also appeals to their self esteem as they envision the attention it will draw to them. Ladies think it's "cute". Little kids are captivated, and gadget freaks get that "special feeling".
It will be interesting to see how long Apple can keep this an attention getter and gimmick of the year. How long before the masses tire of Siri, or will Siri provide them with the emotional support they need?
Americans are so easy to amuse.
Apples got their number. Pay up, buy a 4S, Siri loves money
It will be interesting to see how long Apple can keep this an attention getter and gimmick of the year. How long before the masses tire of Siri, or will Siri provide them with the emotional support they need?
Americans are so easy to amuse.
Apples got their number. Pay up, buy a 4S, Siri loves money
Besides "because Apple said so" why do you believe the iPhone 4 isn't capable of running SIRI?
The only type of Voice Recognition or AI software that is gimmicky, is the kind that doesn't work. The kind that takes longer than doing it manually, and Siri doesn't fall into that category. I've used it (I'm an Australian) and it works accurately, quickly, and as described. It's far from perfect, but it's pretty impressive how it can figure out what you want. In my opinion, one of the biggest problems with Voice Recognition software is that they respond to specific commands, whereas with Siri it doesn't really matter how you ask it. You don't need to memory specific keywords, commands, etc., you just say what you would say naturally.Siri appeals to many people's cheezy side. It also appeals to their self esteem as they envision the attention it will draw to them. Ladies think it's "cute". Little kids are captivated, and gadget freaks get that "special feeling".
It will be interesting to see how long Apple can keep this an attention getter and gimmick of the year. How long before the masses tire of Siri, or will Siri provide them with the emotional support they need?
Americans are so easy to amuse.
Apples got their number. Pay up, buy a 4S, Siri loves money
I've believed there's more to it from the get go. But, I've read some posts by a very educated user on the mactalk.com.au forums about Siri. The guy said the iPhone 4 just doesn't have the graphics grunt to handle it. (He's also explained various functions that Siri uses the GPU for like filtering background noise, breaking down speech into a less than one hundred byte string and several other things as well.)
I'm not one to believe someone without proof but he's a reputable member and seems incredibly educated on the subject (he also gave a background on why he knows these things), so in this case I choose to believe him.
I don't think it's just a business move, it's also about capacity.
There's already posts about network errors from the amount of 4S's sold, add the 20 or whatever million 4's apple have sold... that's defiantly not the sort of experience apple is willing to allow.
There's already posts about network errors from the amount of 4S's sold, add the 20 or whatever million 4's apple have sold... that's defiantly not the sort of experience apple is willing to allow.
It would crush Apple's servers to have 20 million users using Siri right now. The iPhone 4S adoption is huge, but still significantly less than that number. Think of it as a controlled release.
Apple has said regarding the iPad 2 that "Siri is only for iPhone 4S, right now" which leads me to believe at some point the iPad 2 will gain support for it later on.
I really doubt that's the reason. I mean, they have a new state of the art datacenter. They have millions of users downloading songs through iTunes at any given time. iCloud is running fine. I doubt SIRI on iPhone 4 would have been the straw that breaks the camels back.
But there is NO / ZERO / NADA / ZILCH reason why Siri could not run on iPhone 4. Or even 3Gs. None at all.
It doesn't need 512 megs or ram. Nor does it need duel core. Nor a retina display. You know why? Because EVERYTHING is done server side.
It can't even take basic dictation without a connection. Whenever it records, it sends the entire sound file to the server, which does all the heavy lifting. It then displays the results. That is all.
Apple has sure done to the extra trouble to tie it into 4S drivers, but once the jailbreak/hack community clears that out - it will run just as well on an iPhone 4 as it does on the 4S. You can take that to the bank.
which is why they don't want to have 20 million iPhone 4's hammering there servers.
No-one here knows how apple's datacenter is setup or how much load each request takes to process each step required for siri to work and Apple have always had a good reason for not doing something and Apple aren't going to allow Siri to effect iTunes, iCloud or any of the other services they might have.
Limiting it to the iPhone 4S doesn't just push up sales for that phone but also allows them to gauge the load on there servers... and who knows, next year Apple might well feel confident enough to bring it to the iPad 2 or the iPhone 4.
Either way, right now Apple says no for whatever reason and no singing and dancing is going to change there mind until they decide they want to release to previous phones!
You're assuming thats because of network traffic load which is not necessarily the case.
SIRI on iPhone 4
I see no reason that anyone should expect Apple to implement SIRI on an iPhone 4, but I also see no reason for them to disable the SIRI App that was functioning on iPhones previous to Apple's purchase of the company. Well, there is a reason of course, which is to motivate people who liked using it to get an iPhone 4s. That said, many iPhone 4 users don't qualify to upgrade for months.
I see no reason that anyone should expect Apple to implement SIRI on an iPhone 4, but I also see no reason for them to disable the SIRI App that was functioning on iPhones previous to Apple's purchase of the company. Well, there is a reason of course, which is to motivate people who liked using it to get an iPhone 4s. That said, many iPhone 4 users don't qualify to upgrade for months.
